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re: Agree with the guy calling out Deboer and this board is full of sunshine pumpers
Posted on 12/8/25 at 8:48 pm to Golgi Apparatus
Posted on 12/8/25 at 8:48 pm to Golgi Apparatus
Sometimes silence is a compliment in itself!!!!
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Posted on 12/8/25 at 9:39 pm to UNALion9933
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He didn't struggle with teams that sucked like South Carolina, FSU, and teams with losing records
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Posted on 12/8/25 at 9:44 pm to UNALion9933
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automatically labeled as a alter?
Because you made your account exactly one year ago, didn't post anything until almost September, have only posted 25 times, and every single one of them was attacking the team and staff or saying you aren't an alter.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 9:45 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
Said he wasn't perfect but post Deboers struggles with weak teams at Washington and Alabama.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 9:47 pm to UNALion9933
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He didn't struggle with teams that sucked like South Carolina, FSU, and teams with losing records.
Saban's last season:
Vs 4-win Arkansas: 24-21
Vs an AAC team that was blown out by Western Kentucky: 17-3 final (tied at 3 at halftime).
Vs 7-loss Auburn (a week after they were blown out by NMS): 27-24
Vs 7-6 A&M: 26-20
As you can see, Saban clearly did struggle with subpar and below teams in his final season. Deboer inherited remnants from that team (minus Downs, Key, Kool-Aid, Latham, Arnold, etc.).
So if you'll forgive me, I'm willing to give Deboer a little more time considering the greatest coach in the history of sports took this same roster (plus the 40+ players who transferred or went pro) and was one play away from losing to three scrub teams... and struggled to move the ball against an AAC team with the current QB playing 3 quarters in that game....
This post was edited on 12/8/25 at 9:49 pm
Posted on 12/8/25 at 9:58 pm to PBD4BAMA
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Throw quick passes to the spot vacated by a blitzer
How did Ty do with quick passes?
He was sub 50% on the day without really throwing deep passes.
We were throwing screens and backfield flares. Ty was missing some and Hill was dropping others.
If you can’t execute a throw to the flats against a top 5 defense that’s not really going to work.
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Roll out the qb.
Probably some merit to that but I think it’s clear they’re trying to avoid getting him hit due to his back
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Sit the qb that was having a mental breakdown or panic attack.
We might be on the same page there. I love Ty but what we’re seeing on the field isn’t helping him or us.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 10:02 pm to PuertoRicanBlaze
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52 USC 42
35 Utah 28
22 Oregon state 20
24 Washington state 21
31 Arizona 24
36 Oregon 33
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42 Stanford 33
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28 California 21
24 Oregon state 21
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40 UCLA 32
38 Arizona State 45
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35 Vanderbilt 40
27 South Carolina 25
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35 Utah 28
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31 Arizona 24
36 Oregon 33
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28 California 21
24 Oregon state 21
37 Oregon 34
40 UCLA 32
38 Arizona State 45
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28 California 21
Alabama 2024
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27 South Carolina 25
17 Tennessee 24
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28 Auburn 14
13 Michigan 19
Posted on 12/8/25 at 10:11 pm to UNALion9933
I will say this. Freedie Roach has had a lot of injuries and just listening to Morgan we arent paying defensive lineman top prices to come here.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 10:16 pm to Tide or Die87
We can't when we have lots of cash tied up in 2 worthless receivers and terrible running backs!!!
Posted on 12/8/25 at 10:26 pm to Robot Santa
What were people expecting this season objectively?
With the schedule we had going in I was thinking 9-3 or 10-2.
Had I known what was going to happen with RW, the OL and injuries I would’ve said 8-4.
So to me given the injuries I think we’ve grossly overachieved relative to our schedule and based on our roster.
But as far as coaching, you get RW in a one on one and give him a good throw for a TD and he drops it, that’s a player issue, coach put him in a position to make a huge play.
You get Hill on a swing pass for a third down conversion with 15 yards ahead of him and we throw it at his feet that’s on the player.
Then we run a similar play and he drops it… Player issue, coach put them in a position to be successful.
You have a WR on a crosser with a safety sitting zone and instead of throwing before or after the safety you zing it right at the defender. You’d get screamed at in high school for that read as a QB. Player issue.
You could have Sark with Lane in the booth and if the players aren’t gonna execute none of it matters when you only have one hand tied behind your back due to the OL/run issues.
Keep in mind these are games against ultra elite rosters where the margin for error is basically zero, not to mention you have the S/T unit putting you behind by multiple scores forcing you to press.
So I get the frustration and people need someone to blame… but the bottom line is we were not a talented team offensively Saturday.
I’m trying not to blast players who are trying their arse off, limping around on the field and doing their best. But that starting lineup Saturday at their current level of health isn’t a playoff caliber group and people need to be a bit objective as far as what we are and what we aren’t right now IMO.
With the schedule we had going in I was thinking 9-3 or 10-2.
Had I known what was going to happen with RW, the OL and injuries I would’ve said 8-4.
So to me given the injuries I think we’ve grossly overachieved relative to our schedule and based on our roster.
But as far as coaching, you get RW in a one on one and give him a good throw for a TD and he drops it, that’s a player issue, coach put him in a position to make a huge play.
You get Hill on a swing pass for a third down conversion with 15 yards ahead of him and we throw it at his feet that’s on the player.
Then we run a similar play and he drops it… Player issue, coach put them in a position to be successful.
You have a WR on a crosser with a safety sitting zone and instead of throwing before or after the safety you zing it right at the defender. You’d get screamed at in high school for that read as a QB. Player issue.
You could have Sark with Lane in the booth and if the players aren’t gonna execute none of it matters when you only have one hand tied behind your back due to the OL/run issues.
Keep in mind these are games against ultra elite rosters where the margin for error is basically zero, not to mention you have the S/T unit putting you behind by multiple scores forcing you to press.
So I get the frustration and people need someone to blame… but the bottom line is we were not a talented team offensively Saturday.
I’m trying not to blast players who are trying their arse off, limping around on the field and doing their best. But that starting lineup Saturday at their current level of health isn’t a playoff caliber group and people need to be a bit objective as far as what we are and what we aren’t right now IMO.
This post was edited on 12/8/25 at 10:29 pm
Posted on 12/8/25 at 10:31 pm to tide06
Those are all true but what about the plays that got you in those situations? Coaching is about every play. This team is poorly coached and I would argue that most of Deboers teams were poorly coached. Look at the battles he was in each week at Washington and the battles we are in at Bama.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 10:35 pm to UNALion9933
Go watch the film guy on YouTube break down the game. It’s worth your time.
There were throws and plays to be had all day. I was just giving you examples off the top of my head.
All coaches can do is scheme guys open. They did that. Period flat out.
Ty is now below Milroes numbers from last year as a passer from a rating standpoint. We can’t win with that.
There were throws and plays to be had all day. I was just giving you examples off the top of my head.
All coaches can do is scheme guys open. They did that. Period flat out.
Ty is now below Milroes numbers from last year as a passer from a rating standpoint. We can’t win with that.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 10:35 pm to tide06
At the end of the day the coach is responsible.
I'm not wanting to drag this out, I've voiced my opinion more than once, but this isn't the 1st team to have injuries, see nonstop blitz, etc. If teams could "flood a zone" or blitz nonstop and it work all the time every team.would do it and that would be the answer.
I don't mind losing, I just do not like Bama to look.as inept as they did Sat. You can fight, put up a battle, and still lose then hold your head high. We didn't do that Saturday.
I'm not wanting to drag this out, I've voiced my opinion more than once, but this isn't the 1st team to have injuries, see nonstop blitz, etc. If teams could "flood a zone" or blitz nonstop and it work all the time every team.would do it and that would be the answer.
I don't mind losing, I just do not like Bama to look.as inept as they did Sat. You can fight, put up a battle, and still lose then hold your head high. We didn't do that Saturday.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 10:39 pm to UNALion9933
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and I would argue that most of Deboers teams were poorly coached. Look at the battles he was in each week at Washington and the battles we are in at Bama.
He has the best winning percentage in the country against top 10 and top 25 teams, I’m just not sure where you’re coming from and I doubt we’re going to see eye to eye on it.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 10:58 pm to tide06
He was in the PAC whatever it was. His sample size is way too small to judge. You're kidding yourself if you don't see a trend developing. Why don't we just hire Mark Richt if we don't want to win national championships? I will give him one more year before I think he should be fired. I have a feeling a lot of you will be making post talking about how you are tired of defending this staff next year.
Posted on 12/9/25 at 12:53 am to UNALion9933
DeBoer is a good coach but he has got to make some changes.
Posted on 12/9/25 at 6:02 am to UNALion9933
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I will give him one more year before I think he should be fired.
He’s just beat AU, TN, LSU and UGA in the same season, made the playoffs and you’re talking about giving him one more year…
And who are you proposing to bring in as coach?
This post was edited on 12/9/25 at 6:48 am
Posted on 12/9/25 at 6:38 am to UNALion9933
Now do Nick Saban's struggle wins at Michigan State and LSU. LSU includes a loss to UAB, a 1-point OT win over Oregon State, a 4-point win over Troy, a 4 point win over a 2-loss Kentucky, numerous struggle wins over 7-6 Ole Miss squads, etc. We were told "Saban is a mediocre coach propped up by one lucky season." People forget LSU fans wanted him fired the year after he won a national title. His first two seasons at Bama featured struggle wins over Houston, Vandy, Colorado, Tulane, Ole Miss, Kentucky and embarrassing losses to Mississippi State, Louisiana Monroe and Utah.
So again, if Saban struggled to win with this current roster (including the QB that couldn't even move the ball against an AAC scrub), I'd like to hear the list of coaches you think would have taken over and won 76-0 every week. Yes, it's Deboer's responsibility to repair this shite but let's stop acting like the offense hasn't been on a downward spiral since 2021.
Deboer should have brought in a new QB because it was obvious Ty was going to be a headcase based on the South Florida game and the one play he fricked up against OU last year. But we said the same thing about Saban every time Milroe shite the bed in 2023...
So again, if Saban struggled to win with this current roster (including the QB that couldn't even move the ball against an AAC scrub), I'd like to hear the list of coaches you think would have taken over and won 76-0 every week. Yes, it's Deboer's responsibility to repair this shite but let's stop acting like the offense hasn't been on a downward spiral since 2021.
Deboer should have brought in a new QB because it was obvious Ty was going to be a headcase based on the South Florida game and the one play he fricked up against OU last year. But we said the same thing about Saban every time Milroe shite the bed in 2023...
This post was edited on 12/9/25 at 6:43 am
Posted on 12/9/25 at 6:53 am to PuertoRicanBlaze
CFB has become like the NFL. It’s Win Now or you are fired. In times of old Deboer would have put his guys in there and started a rebuild but we would have probably went 8-4 this year. Everyone would want him fired so he pieced together a playoff team out of spare parts. If our OC was as good as the DC people would honestly love Deboer.
I will also say the number of drops this year by the WRs has been massive. If those alone were cleaned up it would significantly change the view of the program.
I will also say the number of drops this year by the WRs has been massive. If those alone were cleaned up it would significantly change the view of the program.
This post was edited on 12/9/25 at 6:54 am
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