re: 2017-18 Alabama Basketball Season Thread: 20-16 (10-11)

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There's nothing wrong with Coleman from the outside, IMO. Spend a good amount to completely overhaul the inside and I'll be happy. They did it with Sewell Thomas and it completely changed the stadium. You'd have no idea they gutted a dated stadium.

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I'll agree that from the outside it looks good, but I want a much smaller venue to be honest. The 15k capacity and seating arrangements make the mid-week and December games look and sound dead. If they can fix the weird lighting and cut it down to 10-12k capacity while making it not sound like students and fans are screaming into a blackhole in non-sellout games, then I'm all for it.

I just want the student section the section being seen on TV broadcasts so there aren't always a bunch of empty seats.

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he didn't get fired until he stopped making tournaments and started having bad teams.

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And started banging coeds on golf courses...allegedly.

Yes - that too. But if we were still going 24-8 and getting #5 seeds the trips to the golf cart stalls would have been swept under the rug.

Man, we have some massive washouts in the 2nd half of Gottfried's tenure with recruits

2003 : Akini Adkins - 4 star, #71
2004 : Al Weber - 4 star, #54
2004 : Glenn Miles - 4 star, #70
2005 : Ray George - 3 star, #4 JuCo player
2006 : Demetrius Jemison - 4 star, #135
2007 : Rico Pickett - 4 star, #58

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A selection Sunday without worry would be nice

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Still very possible

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Texas isn't the same as us. They destroyed us

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And we destroyed Tennessee. It's basketball, 1 game doesn't define your season. Texas has a #54 RPI and is barely in if not out of the tournament. So yea, they are at best the same as us and in reality worse off.

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I don't expect Final Four just because we're able to land top ten recruiting classes. I don't think it's being demanding to expect us to take care of the bottom three teams in the conference, even if it is on the road. Even if we take two of three and get blown out by one we'd be firmly in right now. Instead we're edging toward the bubble and coming off back to back games where we failed to finish and lost by 10+.

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I didn't say the specifics of what you were saying were wrong, but the overall expectation level this season is to get to the NCAAT, preferably by skipping the Dayton games. If that happens, I don't know how anyone isn't at the very least begrudgingly happy with it.

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Players hated him.

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That tends to happen when you single handedly ruin the career of one of the best players the program has seen in decades.

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He frustrated us from 2003 to 2006 with style of play and early exits, but he didn't get fired until he stopped making tournaments and started having bad teams.

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We won tournament games in 2002, 2004 and 2006. Gottfried went 5-5 in the tournament from 02-06, making it every year and advancing three times out of five appearances. The problem was after winning the SEC in 2002 and advancing to the Elite Eight in 2004 we began to demand more out of him and the program. He was fired because the fans demanded more than just making it to the NCAA tournament. It just so happened that was happening around the time that Mark couldn't avoid the golf course with the sororislut he was fricking.

I'm well aware of Gottfried's reputation for being an unbearable douchebag. It doesn't change the fact that we haven't won a single tournament game since he left. He was an up and down coach but we haven't come close to meeting the expectations that were the cause of him being fired in the first place.

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We won tournament games in 2002, 2004 and 2006. Gottfried went 5-5 in the tournament from 02-06, making it every year and advancing three times out of five appearances. The problem was after winning the SEC in 2002 and advancing to the Elite Eight in 2004 we began to demand more out of him and the program. He was fired because the fans demanded more than just making it to the NCAA tournament. It just so happened that was happening around the time that Mark couldn't avoid the golf course with the sororislut he was fricking.

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I was in school during the 2nd half of his tenure, I went to every game. He pissed me off to no end, but nobody took people calling for his firing seriously until his teams started NOT making NCAA Tournaments.

And, even after 2007 and 2008, two teams that were not seriously in contention for the NCAAT the last month of the season, he STILL got another year in 2009 to turn it around. He was fired because the program was clearly going downhill and we hadn't been a NCAA Tournament program in 3 years. They didn't fire him off of a couple of early round exits.

I'd take 2001 to 2006 Mark Gottfried back in a heartbeat (even though their style of play and demeanor frustrated the shite out of me). But that guy was not the guy who got fired.

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A selection Sunday without worry would be nice, but I accept that it's Alabama basketball.

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this is still likely