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re: 2017-18 Alabama Basketball Season Thread: 20-16 (10-11)
Posted on 1/24/18 at 8:04 am to SummerOfGeorge
Posted on 1/24/18 at 8:04 am to SummerOfGeorge
Until the SEC Tournament is in the books we still don't know about this bunch. It's hard to understand whether it's the youth or the coaching staff or just the combination of both. We'll see.
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Posted on 1/24/18 at 8:38 am to BigBird09
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The officiating in the second half was horrible.
I actually thought the officiating was better than normal last night. They were mostly letting them play, though the foul on Avery on the fast break and the 5th foul on Jones were pretty bad. The latter should have been a foul on Avery though, so it was still a foul, they just gave it to the wrong guy.
Sexton was getting mugged and hand checked all night, but they weren't calling those on the other end either, so I'm fine with it. Collin needs to learn to play through that.
Hard to win on the road when the other team is shooting as well as Ole Miss did most of the game. Nice adjustments by Kennedy after we went on that first half run sparked by our defense. Ole Miss was better than I gave them credit for.
Posted on 1/24/18 at 8:48 am to phil4bama
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What would Wimp or Frank Martin do with the talent we have assembled?
Not sure if you'd have won more games, but he'd have find a way to score even less points
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Ole Miss was better than I gave them credit for.
Ole Miss is a good big man away from being an incredible team. If they had Saiz this year, I'd think they'd be contenders to win the SEC
Without him, it is boom or bust with their guards
This post was edited on 1/24/18 at 8:52 am
Posted on 1/24/18 at 9:50 am to GenesChin
Yeah I'd only seen them in the 2nd half of the Auburn game and the Arkansas game, and given their record I didn't give them much credit. Surprised their record isn't better, and didn't realize they had lost so many OT games.
Posted on 1/24/18 at 9:50 am to phil4bama
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What would Wimp or Frank Martin do with the talent we have assembled?
No idea on Frank, but history might give us a clue on Wimp. He once had a team where he replaced a lot of senior leadership from the prior season with a bunch of talented but young players including four who went on to play a combined 34 seasons (with the shortest tenure being 3 years) in the NBA.
That ULTRA talented young team went 14-17, the only losing season of Wimp's entire career - and then proceeded to win 3 straight SEC tournament titles and make 2 sweet 16 appearances.
Of course, that's before the one-and-done era and very few kids left early so the analogy doesn't hold as true now but the lesson is that sometimes it takes a while for the young guys to put it together - so hold the melt and let's see how the team finishes.
Posted on 1/24/18 at 10:11 am to JustGetItRight
This team is very young and inexperienced, but talented. The goal this year should be to make the tourney and hope for a win. Next year basically the whole team minus Collin returns. That should be when we look to take that next step and maybe win a couple games in the tourney
Posted on 1/24/18 at 10:25 am to The Spleen
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I'd only seen them in the 2nd half of the Auburn game
Keep in mind they didn't have Deandre Burnett + absolutely dominated AU in the first half. Granted, AU's shooters missed open 3s, but Ole Miss looked like a contender 1H
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and the Arkansas game
You don't give them credit for losing by only 4 at Bud Walton? Arkansas is in a weird place but their talent is hard to argue with, they've had some very impressive Ws + have one of the better home records in recent years
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Surprised their record isn't better, and didn't realize they had lost so many OT games.
Record should be better, but eyeballing their schedule it has a lot of toss up OOC games for a mid tier SEC team. They likely will finish rough too given their extremely hard SEC slate remaining
@Texas
@Mizz
@UK
@Tenn
@MSU
AU
TN
MZ
Arky
Posted on 1/24/18 at 10:26 am to Bamafan15
I think this team should be expected to make the tourney, but right now as odd as it sounds IMO Sexton is a limiting factor. He's too good to sit, but he still hasn't adjusted to the great leap in talent he's facing as opposed to what he saw in high school. The result is the disjointed and ineffective offense we saw last night.
Hopefully, the light comes on in time this year but it might not.
That 14-17 Wimp team had David Benoit, Michael Ansley, Keith Askins, and Robert Horry down low with Gary Waites running point and Alvin Lee at shooting guard - and they didn't win a single SEC road game that year. They really didn't figure it out until the next season - but they were hell on wheels from that point forward.
Hopefully, the light comes on in time this year but it might not.
That 14-17 Wimp team had David Benoit, Michael Ansley, Keith Askins, and Robert Horry down low with Gary Waites running point and Alvin Lee at shooting guard - and they didn't win a single SEC road game that year. They really didn't figure it out until the next season - but they were hell on wheels from that point forward.
Posted on 1/24/18 at 10:29 am to Bamafan15
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Next year basically the whole team minus Collin returns.
That's what we hope, but Petty probably came into this season with the mindset that he was also going to be a one-and-done prospect, and wants to try to the NBA waters. Then you get a guy like Hall who has progressed so much offensively, he probably feels he's ready to take the next step. And lastly, you wonder about Key.
Posted on 1/24/18 at 10:39 am to Gary Busey
Key isn't an NBA player unless he suddenly develops a mid-range game, so unless he really needs money in a big way he'd be foolish to go pro. Petty is a similar situation. He could be a good pro, but he needs to get better at shooting off the bounce. Pure spot up 3pt specialists can't make it in the NBA going 5/8 one night and 2/10 the next. Hall I don't necessarily think would be making a bad decision though. If he just can't knock down a 15 foot jumper then he's as good as he's ever going to get. If he has shown an ability to do it in practice he should consider staying another year to refine it and show it off in games.
Posted on 1/24/18 at 10:40 am to Gary Busey
Up to this point in the season, I don't think any of our guys are ready for the NBA, including Sexton.
Posted on 1/24/18 at 10:41 am to Robot Santa
Non conference games shooting %
Petty 41.08
Sexton 44.00
Conference games:
Petty 40.14
Sexton 39.43
not quite the differential I would have thought.
Petty 41.08
Sexton 44.00
Conference games:
Petty 40.14
Sexton 39.43
not quite the differential I would have thought.
Posted on 1/24/18 at 10:43 am to SummerOfGeorge
Seems to me that we have to figure out the team chemistry thing when Sexton is in the game. We don't move the ball as well when he is in. Too much dribbling.
Posted on 1/24/18 at 10:45 am to The Spleen
Sexton will go top 10, top 15 at worst. He’s not coming back another year. Hall is probably our most consistent player when he’s not hurt. Those are the only 2 I could see leaving, and idk that Hall is ready yet. He could become a first round type player with another year in college to develop. Petty and Key aren’t even close to being ready and they’d be stupid to leave unless their families just need the money now or something
Posted on 1/24/18 at 10:57 am to Bamafan15
Key shouldn't even be mentioned in NBA talk. Even if he becomes a much better player, he's kind of an odd fit in the NBA. He's not athletic enough to be an NBA SF, so his best bet is to be an undersized spread 4. Problem is he doesn't shoot nearly well enough to do that.
If Petty left after this season, he'd make a team. Key would have zero chance.
If Petty left after this season, he'd make a team. Key would have zero chance.
Posted on 1/24/18 at 10:57 am to IB4bama
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Seems to me that we have to figure out the team chemistry thing when Sexton is in the game. We don't move the ball as well when he is in. Too much dribbling.
I'd say the problem isn't team chemistry as much as personnel, Bama just doesn't have the consistent outside shooters to match up with Sexton's style
Posted on 1/24/18 at 11:02 am to GenesChin
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Bama just doesn't have the consistent outside shooters to match up with Sexton's style
Yep this. Jones is the only guy who consistently knocks down open 3s. Problem is he's only taken 13 (this number doesn't seem right, but I got it from FoxSports)
This post was edited on 1/24/18 at 11:07 am
Posted on 1/24/18 at 11:14 am to TomRollTideRitter
Alabama-Oklahoma is a sellout. That’s the third straight time Coleman has sold out
Posted on 1/24/18 at 11:47 am to Bamafan15
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Sexton will go top 10, top 15 at worst. He’s not coming back another year.
Oh, I agree. I just don't think he's been consistent enough to live up to his hype. When he's good, he is fantastic and a lottery pick. When he's bad, he looks like the true freshman he is struggling to adapt to playing better players game in and game out. The latter is easily coachable and will get better with experience.
Posted on 1/24/18 at 12:51 pm to The Spleen
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Up to this point in the season, I don't think any of our guys are ready for the NBA, including Sexton.
Maybe not, but they might think they can elevate their game e draft time.
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