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re: 2017-18 Alabama Basketball Season Thread: 20-16 (10-11)

Posted on 12/28/17 at 3:43 pm to
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
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Posted on 12/28/17 at 3:43 pm to
I know what PER is. If a player is good at his role, why not feature that more? In other words instead of clearing out the area under the basket, have Hall crash more often.

I don't really care what Herbert's turnover rate is because imo it's on the coaches for asking him to handle the ball too much. He should just be used as a 3 and D player right now. Norris misses open shot after open shot and can't stay in front of anyone on defense. I don't really care that he's experienced. Norris simply isn't athletic enough to play well with our guys this year.

I get what your saying with Sexton, but telling him to just stay on his man would actually take less energy. Right now he will try to sneak off his guy to get steals. It works sometimes. More often than not it leads to a wide open three for the opponent.
This post was edited on 12/28/17 at 4:03 pm
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
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Posted on 12/28/17 at 3:47 pm to
The SWAC is the most intriguing conference this year. Parity abound.
Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 12/28/17 at 4:08 pm to
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If a player is good at his role, why not feature that more?


Roles that are dependent on other people's play (assisted FGs) aren't easy to just "feature more" and are most likely to see diminished PER as role is expanded

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don't really care what Herbert's turnover rate is


I'd get it if it was just "higher" but Herb is avg nearly 4-5 TOs/40min despite not being a high usage player (~16% Poss% lower than avg)

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Norris misses open shot after open shot.


Herb tho is shooting a paltry 40% 2FG and eFG% is 45.1% vs 51.4% for Norris. Not like Herb is some major shooting upgrade there

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can't stay in front of anyone on defense.


Is Herb that much better of a defender? I remember people saying he was a little Charmin to start the season. Also Norris used to be a solid/capable defender, has he just regressed?

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Right now he will try to sneak off his guy to get steals.


At the beginning of the year I was trying to say this is the bullshite that comes w talented FR. They'll look like Lebron James when it works, but they'll also lose you games giving up open 3s

It's really hard to untrain bad hero ball habits in FR you only have for a few months.

Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 12/28/17 at 4:20 pm to
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Other Notables (Overall SOS)

Case study why SOS based on avg is bullshite instead of strength of record

168. Arizona State

Has played
@6 Kansas
neutral v 14 Xavier
Neutral 43 KSt
Neutral 47 St Johns
62 SDSU
70 Vandy





You'd likely have more Ls playing that schedule than Bama, TN or many other top schedules

This isabkut ASU being shafted
This post was edited on 12/28/17 at 4:21 pm
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 12/28/17 at 4:26 pm to
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You'd likely have more Ls playing that schedule than Bama, TN or many other top schedules This isabkut ASU being shafted


Yea, the Arizona State thing is a total head scratcher. It's probably a symptom of the problem with "averaging" things - ASU played #347 Longwood, #328 Northern AZ and #296 Idaho St. That's my biggest pet peeve with almost all "SOS" rankings in college football and basketball.

On the other hand, maybe Ken just hates devils like Herm Edwards?
Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 12/28/17 at 5:09 pm to
It's def an averaged thing for SOS

Overall ranking is because ASU isn't The most dominant teams against their opPonents this season, especially their lower tier opponents



Posted by TomRollTideRitter
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 12/28/17 at 8:04 pm to
Our good shot to get Trendon Watford might be reason enough to keep Avery for at least 2 more seasons.
Posted by GenesChin
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Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 12/28/17 at 8:27 pm to
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Our good shot to get Trendon Watford might be reason enough to keep Avery for at least 2 more seasons.


Could just can Avery and hire Tom Crean if you want to lock in Watford

Not saying Avery fits the criteria, but I wouldnt keep a bad coach no matter the recruit. One and done talents are great pieces to finish a puzzle, they aren't corner pieces

This post was edited on 12/28/17 at 8:43 pm
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 12/28/17 at 8:30 pm to
I was really kidding

I love Watford though. He had an incredible game today. He's the type of borderline one and done guy that you could maybe get a couple years out of too.
Posted by GenesChin
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Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 12/28/17 at 9:11 pm to
Just saying I'd take a Tony Bennet over a Calipari recruiter (I actually think he is a good coach too) at non blue blood program any day of the week. Just look at Johnny Jones at LSU, bunch of top talent w above average restless

Going to be hard to judge AJ until after year 4 or 5 if you ask me. That's when you can identify true development trends

This post was edited on 12/28/17 at 9:27 pm
Posted by Bamafan15
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 12/29/17 at 5:55 pm to
Texas A&M is a 1.5 point favorite
Posted by A-TOWNUAFAN
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Posted on 12/29/17 at 5:56 pm to
Time?
Posted by mistaken4193
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Posted on 12/29/17 at 6:32 pm to
Tommorow 5:00 ESPN2
Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 12/29/17 at 9:16 pm to
Surprised the spread isn't closer to 4-6
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 9:27 pm to
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Surprised the spread isn't closer to 4-6


Home game plus their injury/suspension I assume

Either way, anyone betting on Alabama at less than a basket is a fool.
Posted by Gary Busey
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 12/30/17 at 12:29 pm to
Rick Barnes has made Tennessee really good. Must be fun..
Posted by Bamainva40
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 12/30/17 at 1:18 pm to
We ll see how long it lasts...There are Tenn fans not sold on Barnes
Posted by Bamafan15
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 12/30/17 at 1:22 pm to
I feel unusually good about today’s game. I usually predict us to lose anytime we play a good/ranked team, but I think we win today. Idk why I feel like that but I do lol
Posted by Bamainva40
Member since Nov 2017
1677 posts
Posted on 12/30/17 at 1:45 pm to
Definitely can win this game, and it would be great for our confidence. We re in better shape at this point than previous years even though I thought we'd be 10-2, but I think we re gonna win games that we re not expecting. The talent is there and I think the schedule has set us up to do well. We just have to find consistency on the glass and defending. Hopefully a 9 rotation is in the works , which would help roles get defined .
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
Member since Aug 2016
13219 posts
Posted on 12/30/17 at 1:48 pm to
I agree that we'll win games we don't expect, but I also see us losing games against teams like LSU & Miss State. We play down to our competition.
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