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Posted on 11/17/16 at 9:05 am to DawgsLife
It insinuates what I actually did say, which was I don't remember saying it.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 9:32 am to Spaceman Spiff
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Didn't several of the ACC teams shut GT down?
251 rushing YPG is definitely way lower than what they've been averaging
Posted on 11/17/16 at 10:22 am to djsdawg
ok.
Posted on 11/24/16 at 8:02 am to DawgsLife
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My point? I am tired of people acting like there is no talent on the roster, and Mark Richt didn't do his job the last 3-4 years he was here. We came an eyelash away from playing for a National Championship, and we have a very good, albeit young roster. MOST of the key players were recruited by Richt.
I also understand that we are thin at certain places and That should fall on Richt. But to act like we are "devoid" of talent as one poster put it...or that this is the "worst roster in history", as another poster put it....or even that this is the worst roster since 1996 is wrong. You usually don't shoot from the hip, but you did around that time, on a couple of occasions.
This is the worst Center play that I can remember in a long time. What former Senior Center is he better than?
This is the worst talent at LT that I can remember in a long time. What senior LT is Catalina better than?
We've had poor play at RT and RG in the past. But when have we been so abismal at C and LT? Not just with the current players, but with the sophomores and juniors behind them.
Nichols has 2 transfers at DT that have as much a chance in the NFL as Kublanow and Catalina. You can say that they have no chance at playing on Sundays. And I will concur that neither does Kubs and Catalina. They would be lucky to stick on a practice squad when the season begins.
Posted on 11/24/16 at 8:11 am to WG_Dawg
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I'm not sure he has enough film for scouts to put him in the 3rd round...I mean he's good and I love him on our defnese but he hasn't really done anything that would warrant an early exit
Not blaming you... but calling a 4th year redshirt an early exit isn't really painting the correct picture.
You sign up to play college for 4 years. Leaving before the 5th year is his right. Go make some money if he is ready. Players get a ton of perks. But they can't get paid. Anything he gets paid by the NFL is more than he's getting right now.
Posted on 11/24/16 at 8:32 am to meansonny
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This is the worst Center play that I can remember in a long time. What former Senior Center is he better than?
Well, we had the same guy at Center last year, so, just guessing....he is probably better this year than last. if not, then that is on the coaches, wouldn't you say?
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This is the worst talent at LT that I can remember in a long time. What senior LT is Catalina better than?
Theus, last year? I mean...everybody on this board was saying how awful he was, and he shouldn't be starting, etc. now, all of a sudden everybody loves him and he was All-World. next year, I suspect Catalina will look better to people than he does this year. Georgia fans are like that, for some reason.
)For the record, I thought Theus did a good job, and I don't think Catalina is as bad as many on here make him out to be. Thing is...when a OLineman misses a block it is magnified. People miss all the good blocks.
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Nichols has 2 transfers at DT that have as much a chance in the NFL as Kublanow and Catalina.
For anybody to insinuate that Nicholls has the same level of talent at any position is silly.
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I am amazed that people rail against us having Catalina, and all conference starter because he came from Rhode Island, yet thinks Nicholls has anything close to the talent level we have.
This post was edited on 11/24/16 at 8:41 am
Posted on 11/24/16 at 8:40 am to DawgsLife
You dodged the questions.
No biggie. I'd like you to tell me who Kubs is better than (former senior C for the dawgs).
You are nuts if you believe that Catalina is better than Theus. I don't think you do (you just want to comment about how people complained on Internet message boards about 5 star players who are very good but not great).
I never said that Nichols had better DTs than the Dawgs. I said that their DTs were about on par with the worst C and LT combination at UGA in about 20 years. Tell me what C and LT were worse, and I might reconsider.
No biggie. I'd like you to tell me who Kubs is better than (former senior C for the dawgs).
You are nuts if you believe that Catalina is better than Theus. I don't think you do (you just want to comment about how people complained on Internet message boards about 5 star players who are very good but not great).
I never said that Nichols had better DTs than the Dawgs. I said that their DTs were about on par with the worst C and LT combination at UGA in about 20 years. Tell me what C and LT were worse, and I might reconsider.
Posted on 11/24/16 at 8:58 am to meansonny
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No biggie. I'd like you to tell me who Kubs is better than (former senior C for the dawgs).
I have no idea and neither do you. But he played center last year, so I would guess he is better than he was last year. Either way, I would be willing to bet he is better than what Nicholls has.
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You are nuts if you believe that Catalina is better than Theus.
Where did I say he was? I sadi everybody on this board was railing about how bad Theus was and said he should not have been playing. he was a bust, etc. I said I thought he did a pretty good job. I also said that many on the board that were criticizing him unmercifully last year are now touting his playing as irreplaceable. And again....Catalina is better than any OT that Nicholls has.
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I never said that Nichols had better DTs than the Dawgs. I said that their DTs were about on par with the worst C and LT combination at UGA in about 20 years.
So, you honestly believe that Nicholls DT's are on par with our C and OT? Dude. nicholls is a FCS team on par with Georgia State. the are in the middle of their best season in 10 years, and are still in the middle of the pack of their conference. but if you think they have talent on par with Georgia's I have to wonder how we have won any games, or why they aren't dominating their conference.
Posted on 11/24/16 at 9:00 am to meansonny
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(you just want to comment about how people complained on Internet message boards about 5 star players who are very good but not great).
My apologies. I missed this. You are correct. that is exactly my point.
People never are happy with the talent they have....until that talent is gone. Hutson Mason is a perfect example. He wasn't great, but he was serviceable. And we sure missed him when he left.
Posted on 11/24/16 at 9:24 am to DawgsLife
Nichols DTs transferred from JUCO. There are are many reasons why players don't get into bigger programs. It isn't always talent. And I am not saying that they are world beaters. Just on par with Kublanow who has consistently struggled with NFL sized (not talent... just the size) DTs throughout his career. You say he is better. But not against bigger, stronger players. There, he is the same.
You keep comparing OT to OT. DT to DT. The point is that our center could not beat the DT from Nichols. Our LT is worse than the Gates/Beard combo that we had a couple seasons ago. I think worse than any LT during the Richt era.
If I am wrong, tell me how I am wrong.
You keep comparing OT to OT. DT to DT. The point is that our center could not beat the DT from Nichols. Our LT is worse than the Gates/Beard combo that we had a couple seasons ago. I think worse than any LT during the Richt era.
If I am wrong, tell me how I am wrong.
Posted on 11/24/16 at 9:31 am to DawgsLife
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I am amazed that people rail against us having Catalina, and all conference starter because he came from Rhode Island, yet thinks Nicholls has anything close to the talent level we have.
Catalina wasn't 1st team all conference. He was 2nd team.
Some players are too dumb and get into too much trouble to play in bigger, better schools. Some have life events that keep them close to home without options.
We suck at LT and C. You can't name a worse UGA combo. Neither can I. Sometimes, we are who we are (a team that can't run the ball on 3rd and short or in the red zone).
It is amazing that we have won as many games as we have. It isn't amazing at how many close games we have been in despite having talent at other positions.
Posted on 11/24/16 at 9:33 am to meansonny
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You keep comparing OT to OT. DT to DT. The point is that our center could not beat the DT from Nichols.
Yeah. And I also believe that has more to do with scheme, than the player. And that is what I believe you are not taking into account. There are times those players beat up on SEC talent across the line. Nicholls simply is bad. Really bad. (Compared to SEC teams) I can guarantee you that any SEC team could, and should beat Nicholls easily.
You defend Nicholls talent coming from JuCo, and I understand your point. But Catalina was recruited by several SEC schools besides us, and the Nicholls players were not. One Nicholls DT played at TCU, but, while he got significant playing time, he did not start. He was used to rotate in to give the starters a breather.
Again. If Nicholls has talent on the level of Georgia they should be dominating their conference. Vanderbilt or Missouri would easily win their conference.
Posted on 11/24/16 at 9:39 am to meansonny
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We suck at LT and C. You can't name a worse UGA combo. Neither can I. Sometimes, we are who we are (a team that can't run the ball on 3rd and short or in the red zone
That, in my opinion, comes more from the play calling in the red zone.
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It is amazing that we have won as many games as we have. It isn't amazing at how many close games we have been in despite having talent at other positions.
Yeah. I agree. But, I honestly believe I have seen improvements. All around. I really think the play calling deficiencies are more due to bringing Eason along slowly, and not having full access to the whole playbook. But, again, I am guessing.
Have a Happy Thanksgiving, man! Try not to eat too much turkey!
Posted on 11/24/16 at 10:04 am to DawgsLife
Cheers. I appreciate the dialogue. It will suck when there is no football.
I can't agree that our failures in running the ball are on Eason. And I can't agree that our inability to generate a yard or 2 in the run game on 3rd or goalie situations is on our playcalling. Sometimes you have it. Sometimes you dont. The real scare is that we need to replace Kublanow. I think Wynn might be a better senior than Catalina at LT. But replacing RT and C without having to play true freshmen at some point of the season scares me next year.
I can't agree that our failures in running the ball are on Eason. And I can't agree that our inability to generate a yard or 2 in the run game on 3rd or goalie situations is on our playcalling. Sometimes you have it. Sometimes you dont. The real scare is that we need to replace Kublanow. I think Wynn might be a better senior than Catalina at LT. But replacing RT and C without having to play true freshmen at some point of the season scares me next year.
Posted on 11/24/16 at 11:08 am to DawgsLife
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People never are happy with the talent they have....until that talent is gone. Hutson Mason is a perfect example. He wasn't great, but he was serviceable. And we sure missed him when he left.
Bobo is a better example. He was a GREAT OC, people bitched about him for reasons unknown, and now I'm sure they'd give anything to have him back
Posted on 11/24/16 at 11:50 am to VADawg
We realized how good he was the second half of his career.
Posted on 11/25/16 at 6:46 am to Porter Osborne Jr
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We realized how good he was the second half of his career
People on this board still bitch about em.
Posted on 11/25/16 at 6:52 am to RD Dawg
I will never get over his naked boot vs sc in 2014, but he was far better than our 2015 and 2016 oc's.
Posted on 11/25/16 at 7:28 am to meansonny
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I can't agree that our failures in running the ball are on Eason.
Not totally on Eason. But, our playbook is not totally being used. It can't be. Eason has to be brought along slowly. I believe that is why we are having a bit more success now than at the start of the year.
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And I can't agree that our inability to generate a yard or 2 in the run game on 3rd or goalie situations is on our playcalling.
When you continually bunch up at the LOS, bringing the TE's and WR's in tight to the formation, then run the ball up the middle every time....that is playcalling. I would like to see us fake the handoff (In that formation) and drag the TE across the field (From right to left) and hit him in the endzone. I THINK the defense would crash down on the run and leave the TE open in the end zone.
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But replacing RT and C without having to play true freshmen at some point of the season scares me next year.
I agree. It's never comfortable playing freshmen along the LOS. Their bodies typically are not fully developed and they don't have the knowledge, size or strength to compete. Obviously, there are some exceptions to that rule, but not as a whole.
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