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Posted on 11/15/16 at 8:14 am to WG_Dawg
Posted on 11/15/16 at 8:14 am to WG_Dawg
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They've certainly come into their own and we're now the 17th ranked pass defense (if we gave up 10 yards less per game passing we'd be 10th).
Well, with ULL and GT coming up those numbers will only improve. GT throws more than they used to, but they are still hardly a good passing team. The whole team has grown up and looked better as the season has progressed. Yes...even the coaching staff seems to be growing together and meshing. I am hopeful.
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Posted on 11/15/16 at 8:17 am to Crowknowsbest
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My point was that anybody who didn't hear some chatter about our team maybe not being that talented wasn't paying attention or was just tuning out anything they didn't want to hear.
Then that would include all of us, then, because the worst prediction I saw in WG's preseason prediction thread was 8-4. The vast majority said 9-3. 9-3 is NOT a team without talent.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 8:28 am to DawgsLife
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Then that would include all of us, then, because the worst prediction I saw in WG's preseason prediction thread was 8-4. The vast majority said 9-3. 9-3 is NOT a team without talent.
It turns out fans are hopeful
Posted on 11/15/16 at 8:43 am to RD Dawg
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show me one person on here talking about our lack of talent or how bad we were going to be during the preseason
On here, I don't remember anyone off the top of my head that thought they'd be as bad as they were to start the season. However, after watching the UNC game it was pretty evident they were lacking. And then they started making changes, particularly switching in Baker for Briscoe.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 8:46 am to Porter Osborne Jr
Yes,I heard the same after UNC but they were a pretty potent offense even with a new QB.Once again I was comparing preseason statements.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 8:48 am to Crowknowsbest
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It turns out fans are hopeful
We were also preseason top 20.Were fellow coaches and writers just being "hopeful"?
This post was edited on 11/15/16 at 8:51 am
Posted on 11/15/16 at 8:56 am to Crowknowsbest
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It turns out fans are hopeful
I'm sure fans are. But it's funny how in seasons past we seemed to pretty much hit it on the head with our predictions....so I think realistic is more like it.
Seriously. If Tennessee had not gotten lucky and we played Vanderbilt the way we should have, nobody would be saying this team has no talent.
Even with the season the way it is, nobody can seriously argue that we have played up to our capabilities. I am very pleased, however, that we are showing progress and are looking much better. We have to be tempered with the Auburn win, though, because their #1 RB was out and their QB has a bad arm. However, their defense is legitimate.
The team just seems to be playing with more enthusiasm right now, and that is a big key.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 8:59 am to RD Dawg
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We were also preseason top 20.Were fellow coaches and writers just being "hopeful"?
Every year, there are 2-3 teams at the end of the season who you look at where they started and wonder how the poll voters could put them so high. This year, we're one of them. Brand new staff, true freshman QB, questionable (to be kind) OL and WRs, and a very young defense. It should have been obvious that this wasn't going to be a great season and yet here we are wondering what went wrong.
Here's what you really want to hear: Kirby wasn't flawless and he did have some trouble with game management this year. But it's his first year and I'm willing to cut him some slack because he's learning on the job.
This post was edited on 11/15/16 at 9:00 am
Posted on 11/15/16 at 9:00 am to Porter Osborne Jr
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However, after watching the UNC game it was pretty evident they were lacking.
I thought differently. It didn't hit me until Missouri. I was very disappointed with the Nicholls game and started really thinking we were in trouble after Missouri.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 9:05 am to VADawg
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It should have been obvious that this wasn't going to be a great season and yet here we are wondering what went wrong.
We aren't wondering what went wrong because of those factors. We are wondering what went wrong against Nicholls and Missouri. The factors you mentioned does not come into play against those teams.
AGAIN. I have seen a lot of improvement the past three weeks and am very excited about the future. My concerns grew out of coaching problems. Lack of passion on the team, poor execution, lack of discipline and an inability to tailor the gameplan around the personnel. It appears as if the coaches are all on the same page, now, though.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 9:11 am to DawgsLife
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Seriously. If Tennessee had not gotten lucky and we played Vanderbilt the way we should have, nobody would be saying this team has no talent
People aren't saying we have no talent, first of all.
I can't speak for everybody else, but what I have said is that our OL is severely lacking and we have a general lack of reliable upperclassmen.
I said those things after last year, I said them before the season, and I would still be saying them had UT not caught that hail mary.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 10:35 am to RD Dawg
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"Internet" was also saying the was the "worst roster since the mid-90's" and the "worst roster in the 2000's"
Worst group of upperclassmen was talked about, and its definitely lacking there.
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Didn't hear a peep during the pre-season.
The lack of talent at DB was talked about preseason. I know because I said it.
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Oh,how bout the O-line?
Still not very good. Eason was getting drilled as our OT's were getting run around and over while our center was snapping the ball backwards 15 yards or getting beat so bad the RB got hit in the backfield.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 10:40 am to K9
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Couldn't believe the coaches told Gary that TT wouldn't see the field that much. They brought him in in the second quarter and he started to dominate. You don't keep those guys like that off the field. Special player
Why is he all of a sudden a backup?
Posted on 11/15/16 at 10:42 am to djsdawg
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Why is he all of a sudden a backup?
He's been hurt but still isn't a backup in reality. He plays most of the second half, which is probably intentional.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 10:45 am to DawgNation4
Has anyone heard of Bellamy possibly running off to NFL?
Posted on 11/15/16 at 10:47 am to djsdawg
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Why is he all of a sudden a backup?
Trent? not a backup. He has a hurt hip. I think it is a hip pointer.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 10:52 am to King of Cloverhurst
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Has anyone heard of Bellamy possibly running off to NFL?
It's possible. Probably a mid-round pick at this point
Posted on 11/15/16 at 12:00 pm to Crowknowsbest
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quote:Seriously. If Tennessee had not gotten lucky and we played Vanderbilt the way we should have, nobody would be saying this team has no talent People aren't saying we have no talent, first of all.
Exactly. The trolls haven't produced a single quote of anyone on this board saying that.
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I can't speak for everybody else, but what I have said is that our OL is severely lacking and we have a general lack of reliable upperclassmen.
Plenty have said this if for no other reason than it's obvious. If we were that talented on the OL/had players with superior combinations of size/athleticism, then a high school coach should have been able to coach them to overwhelm Nichols St. and Vandy. And truth be told, though the OL played better vs Auburn, Eason was sacked and hurried repeatedly and the offense did not score a single TD; it was the defense that scored our only touchdown and held Auburn to a single TD.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 12:03 pm to Crowknowsbest
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It's possible. Probably a mid-round pick at this point
I'm not sure he has enough film for scouts to put him in the 3rd round...I mean he's good and I love him on our defnese but he hasn't really done anything that would warrant an early exit.
With that said, last week his mom got on twitter and said something along the lines of "3 more games, a bowl, then it'll all be over" or somethign that got people riled up.
So basically...who knows.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 12:05 pm to WG_Dawg
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I'm not sure he has enough film for scouts to put him in the 3rd round...I mean he's good and I love him on our defnese but he hasn't really done anything that would warrant an early exit.
IDK man. He's got a pretty good amount of quality film. Plays most every snap for us and played a ton last year.
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