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re: The rematch between LSU and Alabama in the BCS National Championship Game

Posted on 5/26/17 at 9:43 am to
Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
77308 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 9:43 am to
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Pretty obvious LSU shouldn't have been there. Remember:


Actually it is obvious LSU should have been there, undefeated, SEC West Champions, SEC Champions and beat Bama in their own yard...

What is obvious is that Bama should not have been there and Big 12 Champion OSU should have...
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 9:44 am to
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Alabama's game plan was much the same as it was the first time around. LSU played a very similar game, too. The only difference? Alabama's kickers (Jeremy Shelley in particular) made their field goals the second time around.


I disagree. I think a bigger difference was that A.J. McCarron played a much better game in the rematch than he did in the first meeting. Bama still missed three FGs in the rematch, if I recall correctly.
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
13619 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 9:49 am to
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The year the the committee decided to shite itself

BCS formula, not committee. And the job of the BCS was to put the top 2 teams in the title game. It did that in 2011. I know you snowflake, beta males would have preferred to play a team that LOST to Iowa State, but the BCS did its job that year.

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and give the national championship to the team

No one was "given" a national championship. Teams were given a shot at it by playing in the title game. One team had home state advantage and still could only cross the 50 once and didn't manage 100 yards of O in the game. The other team WON the title. Nothing was given bruh.
Posted by Glorious
Mobile
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Posted on 5/26/17 at 9:59 am to
It is rich that LSU fans will say that 2007 LSU was deserving of bid but 2011 Bama was not
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65059 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 10:05 am to
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I think a bigger difference was that A.J. McCarron played a much better game in the rematch than he did in the first meeting.


That was the bigger difference. But the game plan more or less remained the same. He just executed it better the second time around.
Posted by JCinBAMA
North of Huntsville
Member since Oct 2009
17585 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 10:05 am to
So disappointed in L6U fans 6 pages and no mention of, Holding, REC, SEC office in Birmingham and of course...



Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
77308 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 10:08 am to
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It is rich that LSU fans will say that 2007 LSU was deserving of bid but 2011 Bama was not


Well again...LSU was the SEC champions, beat Bama that year too in their own yard and in a fluky season when everyone had 2 losses that final weekend the right teams lost ahead of LSU and we jump to number two in the BCS...unlike Bama who was not a conference champion let alone a divisional champion was placed ahead of Big 12 champion OSU...again...not the same...
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
60287 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 10:09 am to
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BCS formula, not committee. And the job of the BCS was to put the top 2 teams in the title game. It did that in 2011.


And it wasn't manipulated by Coaches putting Oklahoma State out of the top 5 so Bama could squeak into the game? The SEC didn't put Saban on national tv to plead for his team to be put into the game?
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 10:10 am to
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The SEC didn't put Saban on national tv to plead for his team to be put into the game?

The SEC didn't do that.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 10:10 am to
I'm still not convinced Okie St missed that field goal
Posted by Glorious
Mobile
Member since Aug 2014
24480 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 10:11 am to
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Well again...LSU was the SEC champions, beat Bama that year too in their own yard and in a fluky season when everyone had 2 losses that final weekend the right teams lost ahead of LSU and we jump to number two in the BCS...unlike Bama who was not a conference champion let alone a divisional champion was placed ahead of Big 12 champion OSU...again...not the same...

Please if you would help an uneducated bammer. Show me where the rule book states that you must be a conference champion. Here is the setup. TIA
This post was edited on 5/26/17 at 10:13 am
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
60287 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 10:12 am to
Ok The SEC had nothing to do with Saban being highlighted during the SEC Championship Game. A game in which his team was not participating.
Posted by StlPoke
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2017
1191 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 10:12 am to
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I'm still not convinced Okie St missed that field goal


Oklahoma State fans will go to their grave thinking that FG was inside the upright
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 5/26/17 at 10:16 am to
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was placed ahead of Big 12 champion OSU..


Yeah, that's not what happened. Bama held the #2 spot for the last few weeks of the season. It would have required taking that OSU team who lost to a 6-6 Iowa State team after blowing a 24-7 lead in WEEK 12 and jumping them ahead of Alabama, who had dominated everyone else all year long and was ranked #2.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 10:18 am to
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Oklahoma State fans will go to their grave thinking that FG was inside the upright


It probably was. Mother fricker was directly over the pole. Wonder what CFB would look like if it was called differently.

That kicker knew it was good. And he's got the best seat in the house
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37616 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 10:18 am to
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McCarron threw the ball a grand total of six more times in the national championship game as opposed to the first game in Bryant-Denny. The difference? He completed the passes the second go around. We had been throwing the ball on first down all year. What LSU's defense saw in that second game was nothing they hadn't seen before.


That is the difference in the outcome of the first and second game. We came out and aired it out early in the BCSCG. Saban was too puckered and tight in the first game against that LSU defense. It might of worked out if Foster hadn't had a bad night.
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
60287 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 10:19 am to
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Yeah, that's not what happened. Bama held the #2 spot for the last few weeks of the season. It would have required taking that OSU team who lost to a 6-6 Iowa State team after blowing a 24-7 lead in WEEK 12 and jumping them ahead of Alabama, who had dominated everyone else all year long and was ranked #2.




How did you hold #2 for the last few weeks if OSU didn't lose until Week 12?
Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
77308 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 10:19 am to
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Please if you would help an uneducated bammer.


Well one, there is not enough time in the day for that...two...I never said anything about the rules, you stated "deserving" and I stated the facts on why LSU was deserving that year and Bama did not deserve to go over the Big 12 champion that year...that is your lesson for the day...now don't go outside the trailor park this time, you might get ran over by a log truck...
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65059 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 10:20 am to
Let's be honest. LSU fans would have much rather played Oklahoma State than Alabama in that game because they knew they could have easily defeated them. Or at least that's what they think.

Alabama fans will always contend that they deserved to be in that game because they had the better loss. LSU was the only undefeated team in America at the end of the regular season and Okie State had literally choked away a game to an Iowa State team that finished with seven losses in the second to last game of the season.

If there had been a playoff in place in 2011, Alabama and LSU most likely meet in the Sugar Bowl for a re-match anyway. Alabama more than likely is the fourth and final seed in that setup. The bracket would have looked like so:

#1 LSU vs. #4 Alabama in the Sugar Bowl
#2 Oklahoma State vs. #3 Oregon in the Fiesta Bowl

With those match-ups in mind, the national title game more than likely would have featured Alabama and Oregon.
Posted by LSU82BILL
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Member since Sep 2006
10321 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 10:21 am to
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So? Still doesn't change the fact that it was a weak year in college football.


OK - since you want to put that year in context - you tell us what was a "strong year" in college football and who the NC was that year. How about that great 1995 Nebraska team? They beat 4 ranked teams and only 2 on the road. 2001 Miami Hurricanes? They beat 5 top 15 teams but only 1 was in the top 10 and they only won 3 on the road.


Name a team that won as many games against 9 ranked opponents and where 5 of them were on the road and where they played 4 games against teams that finished in the top 6 and made it into the NC game against that schedule.
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