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re: The rematch between LSU and Alabama in the BCS National Championship Game

Posted on 5/26/17 at 12:45 pm to
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 5/26/17 at 12:45 pm to
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How did you hold #2 for the last few weeks if OSU didn't lose until Week 12?


You tell me, man.

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Posted by StlPoke
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2017
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Posted on 5/26/17 at 12:46 pm to
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Ok but bama and OKSU played the same number of games. Without a conference championship game it doesn't mean anything. Their resume is no better because they did not beat anybody else. A non-conference champion with the exact same schedule and results is equal in my eyes


Oklahoma State won their conference. They played every team in their conference and finished with the best record.

so no, they were not a non-conference champion no matter what your eyes tell you.

Posted by ChewyDante
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Posted on 5/26/17 at 12:48 pm to
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Dude, the title game was in fricking Louisiana.


And the stadium was basically 50/50 because it's a title game, not a home game with skewed ticket allotment, and Alabama isn't exactly a cross country journey to New Orleans.

It was effectively neutral site. There's no reason to quibble over this because the game was a beat down. But Bama fans tend to hype it up as beating LSU in a hostile environment because they are insecure about acknowledging that LSU beat them in their house in an overwhelmingly hostile environment. Admitting that is inconvenient to the whole "Alabama was clearly the better team all along" narrative.
This post was edited on 5/26/17 at 12:49 pm
Posted by Glorious
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Posted on 5/26/17 at 12:51 pm to
If you don't play an extra game being conference champion doesn't improve your actual resume. Sorry but it's true
Posted by adamb2151
Houston, Texas
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 5/26/17 at 12:55 pm to
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You got in field goal range exactly twice in regulation


Ummmm and we won the game by a FG. Are you saying that the option that drove us down the field to allow us to kick the game winning FG isnt the reason we won the game? Also, twice does qualify as multiple times.
Posted by Chimlim
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2005
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Posted on 5/26/17 at 1:00 pm to
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#1 LSU vs. #4 Alabama in the Sugar Bowl
#2 Oklahoma State vs. #3 Oregon in the Fiesta Bowl

With those match-ups in mind, the national title game more than likely would have featured Alabama and Oregon.



Funny because LSU beat Alabama and Oregon during the season.
Posted by Meatball
Member since Sep 2009
4939 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 1:00 pm to
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"Our Dome away from Home"


I guess you didn't watch the 2014 Sugar Bowl!



Oklahoma 45

Bama 31

Posted by MetryTyger
Metro NOLA, LA
Member since Jan 2004
15590 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 1:06 pm to
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RollTide1987
The rematch between LSU and Alabama in the BCS National Championship Game by RollTide1987

'Easily one of the most important events in the history of college football.'

That's your opinion. And a typical arrogant smarmy self-aggrandizing opinion at that



'Not so much the game as the selection of Alabama to play LSU in a rematch game.'


And why don't you tell me who REALLY "selected" alabama for that game. Do you know who it was?
THE MEDIA
Seven coaches in the BCS 'human poll' component of the BCS actually """"""""" D R O P P E D """"""""" Okla. St from 3rd or 4th to SEVENTH OR EIGHT, this
""""""""" A F T E R """"""""" they destroyed former #1 OKlahoma to win the Big 12 Title.

Tell me how THAT fricking works ??????????





'As to the game itself, I think it became obvious who the best team that year was. Alabama's game plan was much the same as it was the first time around. LSU played a very similar game, too. The only difference? Alabama's kickers (Jeremy Shelley in particular) made their field goals the second time around.



Uh, nooooo. Alabama passed like like eleventy billion times in the first half - this totally threw off John Chavis.

The difference in my opinion was that LSU did NOT get the special teams or defensive big plays like they did against Georgia in the SECCG and Arkansas in the last reg season game.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 5/26/17 at 1:06 pm to
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I guess you didn't watch the 2014 Sugar Bowl

Ah. The game no one cared about.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 1:12 pm to
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Uh, nooooo. Alabama passed like like eleventy billion times in the first half

We only threw it a little more early on in the championship game. We still threw it quite a bit in the first game.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 5/26/17 at 1:38 pm to
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Easily one of the most important events in the history of college football.


Agreed. Laid the foundation for the playoff and also proved to everyone that CFB is ultimately a game where certain schools have advantages over all the others.

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Alabama's game plan was much the same as it was the first time around.


No, it wasn't. Not even close. Bama changed their game plan to put the game in the QBs hands. LSU was the team that didn't adjust.

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Alabama's kickers (Jeremy Shelley in particular) made their field goals the second time around.


Yes, that did happen the second time.

Congrats on the historical mulligan and victory. Not many other programs would have gotten that favoritism. LSU certainly would not have, even with that monster schedule they played that year.


Posted by RollTiger1987
Member since Apr 2017
74 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 1:43 pm to
I fondly remember when the 2016 Clemson Tigers lost to the Pitt Panthers and then buttfricked Alabama in the title game.

OSU would've done the same, as we've seen time and time again from Saban's high-priced defense when facing legit offenses.

Considering 2011 Stanford and 2011 OSU existed, 2011 Alabama likely doesn't even reach the championship game if a playoff existed.

Will give the 2011 Bama team credit though, they were at least Top 4 in the country that year.
This post was edited on 5/26/17 at 1:51 pm
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 5/26/17 at 1:45 pm to
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LSU was the team that didn't adjust.


They adjusted by trying to expand their option attack against linebackers they thought were "slow." Then they watched Jarrell Harris - out of position - force a pitch from Jefferson and then also hawk down the RB and force him out of bounds for a loss, and it looked like LSU's entire team responded with "oh frick..." and quit.
Posted by Glorious
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Posted on 5/26/17 at 1:45 pm to
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I fondly remember when the 2016 Clemson Tigers lost to the 6-6 NC State Wolfpack


Oh do you now?
This post was edited on 5/26/17 at 1:49 pm
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 5/26/17 at 1:47 pm to
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they were better than any team Auburn has ever fielded in any year, ever.


FIFY.
This post was edited on 5/26/17 at 1:47 pm
Posted by RollTiger1987
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 5/26/17 at 1:47 pm to
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Oh do you now?


I do. 2011 Bama was an insult to college football and the public demanded the system change so as to never allow such an injustice to happen again.

All of this could've been avoided if Cam had just returned for the 2011 season. Order would've been restored and Bama would've finished 3rd in the West, playing in the Capital One Bowl where they belonged.
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
13619 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 1:48 pm to
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Ummmm and we won the game by a FG

In OT. You started at the 25. I think the poster you are responding to was saying your team put themselves in FG range, not "the rules of overtime started you at the 25 yard line so the ball was, essentially, placed in FG range".

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Also, twice does qualify as multiple times.

Well, to be fair, your D got an INT that set you up at the 15. You lost 2 yards on O and then kicked a FG for your first points of the game. Your second FG was the result of your only sustained drive of the game, which is still better than your O in the NCG.
Posted by Glorious
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Posted on 5/26/17 at 1:48 pm to
So North Carolina State beat Clemson this past year?
Posted by RollTiger1987
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 5/26/17 at 1:50 pm to
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So North Carolina State beat Clemson this past year?
Nope. The Pitt Panthers did.
Posted by Glorious
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Posted on 5/26/17 at 1:51 pm to
But you said you fondly remembered NC State beating Clemson in 2016
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