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Posted on 4/11/17 at 2:53 pm to DeltaDoc
Posted on 4/11/17 at 2:53 pm to DeltaDoc
I think that if he isn't completely clean, he's exceeding stupid. Asking for people to send in complaints to compliance as you, yourself, are cheating is the behavior of a complete imbecile.
I have just a little shred of hope left that this administration is not completely terrible. However small that shred is. And he easily could be that retarded.
I have just a little shred of hope left that this administration is not completely terrible. However small that shred is. And he easily could be that retarded.
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Posted on 4/11/17 at 2:53 pm to DeltaDoc
Haha yeah he must be getting a hard time from the Reb faithful for originally saying he doesn't see how Freeze didn't know what Farrar was doing and then in turn saying he doesn't know for sure that it was a state player who snitched. Freeze has a process and documents the process on how he handles complicance and OM believes that this will prove he did whatever he could to monitor his coaches and get him out from under the failure to monitor allegation. I believe it to be true or OM would have saved some time and lessened penalties by going ahead and firing him but I doubt it makes much of a difference. The NCAA knows what goes on in college football and basketball but when they've made their mind up to punish someone and set an example, you're screwed
Posted on 4/11/17 at 2:58 pm to TMRebel
Sometimes I wonder if an SEC job was too big for him at this stage in his career with his level of experience upon taking the job. This, obviously, is assuming Freeze was naive in his handling of everything. He had just 2 years at Ole Miss as an assistant and two at Arkansas State, one as an assistant one as a head coach, before going to Ole Miss. Can't really count Lambuth given they weren't even governed by the NCAA. That's literally the only thing I can think of if there's any merit to the "I didn't know" because all that would prove is he is too ignorant of how to run a program in a major coference and also make sure his compliance dept is on its Ps and Qs.
I tend to think he was a little more self aware than that and has been trying to save face, but just food for thought
I tend to think he was a little more self aware than that and has been trying to save face, but just food for thought
This post was edited on 4/11/17 at 2:59 pm
Posted on 4/11/17 at 2:59 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Think Enron. The CEO tried the I didn't know shite defense. Freezer is screwed.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 3:00 pm to Whereisomaha
I think they've kept Freeze for financial reasons.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 3:04 pm to DeltaDoc
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I think they've kept Freeze for financial reasons.
Financial reasons? They could have fired him with cause yesterday. I would also bet the NCAA would take it easier on Ole Miss if Ole Miss were to fire him. They took it easier on OSU than they could have when Tressell resigned. But I think at this point it's become pretty clear that Freeze and Bjork are going to go down with the ship instead of cutting bait
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Posted on 4/11/17 at 3:05 pm to DeltaDoc
NCAA sanctions are reason for a "for cause" termination. No buyout, nothing. We can get rid of him now and have zero penalty.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 3:07 pm to DeltaDoc
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I think they've kept Freeze for financial reasons.
They probably are going to Kiffin him
Let him ride out some of the sanctions if not all of them, then fire him for cause with no buyout. New coach gets clean slate and well compensated considering no buyout
Posted on 4/11/17 at 3:07 pm to lsufball19
Nope. Only allegations at this point...no findings.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 3:07 pm to DeltaDoc
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I think they've kept Freeze for financial reasons.
They've kept him b/c if OM gets slammed (and Freeze doesn't get a show cause), then who else would they get that would be better?
Posted on 4/11/17 at 3:07 pm to DeltaDoc
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Nope. Only allegations at this point...no findings.
Auburn fired Sonny Golloway for cause and he was cleared by the NCAA
Then again, our compliance/legal side of the AD is unparalleled
Posted on 4/11/17 at 3:08 pm to lsufball19
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Sometimes I wonder if an SEC job was too big for him at this stage in his career with his level of experience upon taking the job.
There's no question
Posted on 4/11/17 at 3:09 pm to GenesChin
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They probably are going to Kiffin him
Let him ride out some of the sanctions if not all of them, then fire him for cause with no buyout. New coach gets clean slate and well compensated considering no buyout
If they let Freeze ride out the sanctions, they could simply just not renew his contract. I believe it runs through 2019. No firing would be necessary.
And that's not what happened to Kiffin. He was hired during the start of probation to be the "fall guy" because no other big time coach would go to a school starting a 3 year probationary period.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 3:09 pm to TMRebel
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NCAA sanctions are reason for a "for cause" termination. No buyout, nothing. We can get rid of him now and have zero penalty.
I think they are waiting for a show-cause to lessen the likelihood that he would be able to get anything out of them in court. That is, if he were to sue for wrongful termination. Probably just a case of crossing your t's and dotting your i's. Just my two cents.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 3:11 pm to DeltaDoc
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Nope. Only allegations at this point...no findings.
Ole Miss has already admitted to some of the allegations, which would be enough to fire Freeze. They just haven't admitted to the LOIC charge. Regardless, even if Freeze is fired with cause, there would still be a buyout negotiation to prevent it from going to litigation. It isn't as simple as "well, we have findings so we're done here." Not to mention, Mississippi is an at-will state so cause isn;t necessary.
This post was edited on 4/11/17 at 3:13 pm
Posted on 4/11/17 at 3:12 pm to lsufball19
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he did this while at Auburn, yes. And it was on the field in 1999
oh, he definitely did it while at Ole Miss too.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 3:14 pm to GenesChin
quote:I don't know why, but as I read this an image immediately popped into my head:
Then again, our compliance/legal side of the AD is unparalleled
I wish I had a gif of this.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 3:15 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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rouge boosters or not, no way Freeze survives this if Ole Miss gets hit with sanctions similar to what the OP is alleging. No coach would. Plausible deniability would also be quite a stretch
quote:+1 Freeze either knew and allowed shite to happen in his program, OR he didn't know and failed to monitor his program. Either way CHF is up shite creek. The HC can't operate a massive program without knowledge of the inner workings of his recruiting processes and what his staffers are doing.
Yea, there is no "completely clean" if you are the executive of an organization and something this massive occurs.
You are either complicate, which demands immediate termination, or you are obtuse and don't have a firm grip on the happenings inside your operation, which is also fireable.
Either way, you fvcked up.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 3:15 pm to lsufball19
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Not to mention, Mississippi is an at-will state so cause isn;t necessary.
that doesn't apply to contracted work.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 3:15 pm to SummerOfGeorge
you guys are desperate
try to hide your true intent
try to hide your true intent
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