re: Ole Miss Sanctions

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But the instigator's acted like a woman scorned, and the Tunsil stuff just set them off. They wanted true blood from the football program so they went to the extremes to gather information to build a damaging case so that they could nail y'all with LOIC and Failure to Monitor.

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But wouldn't rhis logical mean that they would cross lines and play in the grey area to get the information they wanted? What if they couldn't find anything? What if there wasn't much to find?

Just play along for a second. Wouldn't that fit the narrative that OM has been saying the entire time? (Yes I realize this is highly unlikely).

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Listen, I could act like a jackass and post some shitty response on this. But I can honestly see and understand Ole Miss's narrative the second go 'round of the investigation.

Y'all feel like it was a witch hunt, and that the NCAA took it to the extreme by offering immunity to get to the root of the allegations. I think OM is justified in being pissed with the way the 2nd investigation was handled. That doesn't change the fact that the NCAA found more shady shite hidden in the woodshed though. And that doesn't change the fact that even more "mistakes" were made while the NCAA was already all up in your business.

If even one staffer lied to the NCAA, misrepresented statements in an effort to hide facts, then you will get the guillotine.

Often times it's not about the "mistakes" that were made, it's about being truthful and upfront when they question you. Putting on a front to the NCAA by showing contrition for your mistakes, and acting like your Administration strives to foster an atmosphere of compliance.

The stuff in the amended NOA makes it look like your rogue boosters completely failed to back the frick down and just carried on with their dealings while your program was still under investigation.

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No its not. That's going to set them and their recruiting back even further than it already is. A penalty like that would set any team back. You have 25 less players on scholarship by the 4th season...that's extremely detrimental in any conference but especially the sec where quality depth comes into play. That's 60 scholarship players instead of 85 like everyone else. That makes you hit on damn near every player you recruit to contribute and produce. Now take into consideration injuries etc with a roster. Then, you have to consider that they won't be pulling in top talent to oxford either without cheating so the players you do have on schollies aren't so great. It's going to be bad. Don't kid yourself.

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we are probably agreeing and don't realize it.. my point was it takes them back to being a bottom feeder non contender. Whether your barely dead or totally dead... you are essentially dead.

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Ole Miss Sanctions

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Back to the cellar, Rebs.



Back to the cellar? They never left.

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hmm. Let's look at the last 10 years winning pct. There is Ole Miss, at #58. Some other SEC teams are on the list.

1 Alabama 0.89600
2 Boise State 0.84034
3 Ohio State 0.82243
4t Oregon 0.78151 93
4t Oklahoma 0.78151
6 Florida State 0.77686
7 Texas Christian 0.75000
8 Clemson 0.74797 92
9 Stanford 0.74790
10 Louisiana State 0.74138
11 Appalachian State 0.73684
12 Oklahoma State 0.73504
13 Wisconsin 0.72727
14 Southern Cal 0.70339
15 Michigan State 0.69748
16 Florida 0.69492
17 Utah 0.68696 79
18 Brigham Young 0.68376
19 Georgia 0.68182
20 Northern Illinois 0.68033
21 Nebraska 0.67500
22 Penn State 0.67241
23 Houston 0.66949
24 Virginia Tech 0.66942
25 Cincinnati 0.65517
26 Navy 0.65254 77
27 Iowa 0.63248 74
28 West Virginia 0.62931
29t Notre Dame 0.62609
29t Baylor 0.62609 72
29t Louisville 0.62609
32t Auburn 0.62393
32t Missouri 0.62393
34 Georgia Southern 0.62162
35t Kansas State 0.61739
35t Texas 0.61739
37 South Carolina 0.61538
38 Toledo 0.61062
39 Texas A&M 0.60345
40 Georgia Tech 0.59664
41 Miami-Florida 0.59130
42 San Diego State 0.58974
43 Ohio 0.58475 69
44 Northwestern 0.58261
45t Air Force 0.58120
45t Pittsburgh 0.58120
47t Arkansas State 0.57895
47t Michigan 0.57895
49 Texas Tech 0.57018
50 Tulsa 0.56897
51 Old Dominion 0.56757
52t Mississippi State
52t Louisiana Tech 0.56522
54t Nevada-Reno 0.56034
54t Central Florida 0.56034
56 Temple 0.55752
57 Marshall 0.55652
58t Arkansas 0.55263
58t Mississippi 0.55263
60 North Carolina 0.54455
61t Arizona 0.54310
61t East Carolina 0.54310
63 Louisiana-Lafayette 0.53982
64 Western Michigan 0.53509
65 UCLA 0.53448 62
66 Middle Tennessee State 0.53097
67 Washington 0.52991
68 Arizona State 0.52632
69t Rutgers 0.52174
69t North Carolina State 0.52174
71 Bowling Green 0.51724
72 Tennessee 0.51327

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Dang, Appy State's a solid little team.

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Yeah. That really surprised me.

OM has to respond to NOA by the end of May. COI will then have 60 days to consider response and hand down sanctions.

Should know around August.

How crazy would that be if seniors and juniors start leaving DURING fall camp from OM headed to rival schools free to play this fall.

I think you are correct, but it'll be more than three, probably less than ten.

If this gets delayed past this season, Shea will be one of them though.

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I think that is likely correct. OM will likely file for some sort of injunction as well. This could drag on for a whilez

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We will see but that likely kills the chances of the NCAA accepting the self imposed ban for this season and does little except make the pain last longer.

All this talk of evidence and proof and lawsuits belies the fact that schools are voluntary members of an organization and can leave any time they wish. You agree to obey the rules and accept the punishments when you join.

Who knows at this point though what will happen

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I've heard this as well

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You've heard this from where Cletus?