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re: Mizzou. WTF....you screwed that swimmer
Posted on 1/26/14 at 5:31 pm to Cheese Grits
Posted on 1/26/14 at 5:31 pm to Cheese Grits
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Was discussed on the other thread. Loyalty to her or loyalty to his teammates of the football team. If he had it it was destroyed and not lost.
You make so many assumptions and act as if they are fact. You have done so in all the threads related to this story. The tying bind between all of these assumptions is that they all lean to shed the worst possible light on Mizzou.
Can you not honestly see this?
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Posted on 1/26/14 at 5:32 pm to Cheese Grits
Reporter from OTL squashed that she was skipping therapy sessions. He had documentation showing she was going to therapy. And when it was shown during the interview with the swim coach, it caught him off guard.
This post was edited on 1/26/14 at 5:39 pm
Posted on 1/26/14 at 5:32 pm to Cheese Grits
I wasn't around for the other thread, but I'm glad that the conclusion drawn in it was that his story is BS.
Posted on 1/26/14 at 5:35 pm to WildcatMike
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Reporter from OTL rebukes that she was skipping therapy sessions. He had documentation showing she was going to therapy. And when it was shown during the interview with the swim coach, it caught him off guard.
How come no one is asking tough questions of her parents?
Why did they feel the need to hide her mental health problems and prior suicide attempt from Mizzou officials originally? Why did they send their daughter hundreds of miles away when she had so many mental health issues?
Posted on 1/26/14 at 5:37 pm to kilo
Don't know. Good question.
Posted on 1/26/14 at 5:39 pm to Cooter Davenport
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I wasn't around for the other thread, but I'm glad that the conclusion drawn in it was that his story is BS.
It was a hit piece by ESPN. It is what it is at this point.
You can see the "dots" that those trying to milk this to slam Mizzou are trying to connect are tenuous at best and flat innuendo, assumption and fabricated at worse.
Posted on 1/26/14 at 5:40 pm to kilo
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The tying bind between all of these assumptions is that they all lean to shed the worst possible light on Mizzou.
No, I think the worst possible light should be put on the folks who did the sexual assault, followed closely by the moron - who also happened to be a football player - who lost the tape. I would put Mizzou down the list and mostly because they were having her sign papers in a fragile state. I also raise an eyebrow how she ingested 100 Tylenol in a facility like McLean.
Posted on 1/26/14 at 5:40 pm to WildcatMike
How many times is this thread going to be made?
WildcatMike must live under a rock
WildcatMike must live under a rock
Posted on 1/26/14 at 5:40 pm to semotruman
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She was supposed to be going to counseling, and told the coach she was skipping sessions. She was non-compliant with her treatment plan. So he told her to take time off and get healthy. Never told her she couldn't come back.
She was still on scholarship. Withdrawing from school preserved her status academically so she could return down the road.
Semo... You're trying to reason with a sub-simian . Just let him play on...
Posted on 1/26/14 at 5:46 pm to Cheese Grits
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No, I think the worst possible light should be put on the folks who did the sexual assault, followed closely by the moron - who also happened to be a football player - who lost the tape.
So you are 100% certain their was a sexual assault or rape?
There are some loose ends that need investigating before Im willing to go that far personally.
I want an investigation. Im glad there is one being started. IF there was a crime committed then I hope those involved are punished to the full extent the law allows. Until that time however there are too many holes and hearsay to make an unequivocal statement that there was crime commited without question.
There are just too many assumptions and innuendo in this case form a logical conclusion to be; "there was a crime, no question."
Posted on 1/26/14 at 5:49 pm to Mizz-SEC
Once again. Documentation showed she was going to therapy 2 weeks prior of her being removed from the team. She did not slit her wrists until she was asked to leave the swim team.
Yes, Grits. She was in care...but my understanding, she ingested the Tylenol out patient rehab.
Yes, Grits. She was in care...but my understanding, she ingested the Tylenol out patient rehab.
This post was edited on 1/26/14 at 5:59 pm
Posted on 1/26/14 at 5:57 pm to kilo
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So you are 100% certain their was a sexual assault or rape?
Not 100%, but based on the narrative by both ESPN and MU there seems to be a very high degree this is the correct probability. If it walks like a duck, looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck - chances are high it is a duck. Based on all the information presented it looks to be 80% or better that she was sexually assaulted by more than 1 man and that they were football players.
Clearly the young woman had issues but there seems to be a clear break from one night to the next morning which was verified by a third party in the interview on OTL. Watch it again and tell me nothing happened. While mathematically possible, it just does not seem probable no assault occurred.
Posted on 1/26/14 at 6:03 pm to Cheese Grits
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Clearly the young woman had issues but there seems to be a clear break from one night to the next morning which was verified by a third party in the interview on OTL. Watch it again and tell me nothing happened.
The same type of "break" that caused her to attempt to commit suicide two previous times after break ups with boyfriends completely unrelated to this incident?
Like I said, there is enough doubt involved, prior mental status, video tape, etc for a rational thinker to reserve judgement.
This post was edited on 1/26/14 at 6:04 pm
Posted on 1/26/14 at 6:08 pm to kilo
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video tape
So you are saying you think the tape never existed?
Posted on 1/26/14 at 6:13 pm to WildcatMike
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She did not slit her wrists until she was asked to leave the swim team.
And after she broke up with her boyfriend, about 2 weeks before the suicide attempt. Think that could have been a contributing factor?
Posted on 1/26/14 at 6:14 pm to semotruman
I'm sure it all added up. Very sad..
Posted on 1/26/14 at 6:15 pm to Cheese Grits
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So you are saying you think the tape never existed?
I don't know. I don't know what was on that tape if it did exist either.
Can you not honestly say that there is some rational doubt surrounding the video? I mean, the tape and its handling are bizarre if what was claimed to be on it was actually true.
Posted on 1/26/14 at 6:17 pm to kilo
Mizzou has decided to turn the names over to the police.
The university will also be doing an internal investigation of how it handled things. EDIT: That investigation will be done by an independent party. That tells me there's a lot more to this story or that Mizzou at least fears there might be more and they're seeking to get ahead of it/be proactive about what might come to light (which is better than sitting around and waiting to get torched).
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The university will also be doing an internal investigation of how it handled things. EDIT: That investigation will be done by an independent party. That tells me there's a lot more to this story or that Mizzou at least fears there might be more and they're seeking to get ahead of it/be proactive about what might come to light (which is better than sitting around and waiting to get torched).
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This post was edited on 1/26/14 at 6:25 pm
Posted on 1/26/14 at 6:20 pm to kilo
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I mean, the tape and its handling are bizarre if what was claimed to be on it was actually true.
I think the difference is you and I view the reactions differently. While you doubt it exists, the suspect handling of it is a strong lean in my book that somebody he knew may go to jail for a long time if it existed so it was destroyed and he said it was "lost"
As I stated on the other thread, if he was a football player and the others were fellow players it is much different than if they were unknown 3rd parties he had no issues with seeing them rot in jail for the next 1/4 century. People do strange things to protect the guilty if they actually know them.
Posted on 1/26/14 at 6:25 pm to Prof
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Mizzou has decided to turn the names over to the police.
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In the statement Sunday, Missouri said its university police department acted Saturday night because of new names and information in the story, and that "it was determined that the alleged assault occurred off campus, and therefore lies within the jurisdiction of [the Columbia Police Department]. The university will assist CPD in any way possible as they conduct their investigation."
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