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re: Mizzou. WTF....you screwed that swimmer
Posted on 1/26/14 at 9:59 am to Mizzou4ever
Posted on 1/26/14 at 9:59 am to Mizzou4ever
Does anyone even expect ESPN to attempt to adhere to the minimal standards of journalistic integrity?
Posted on 1/26/14 at 10:09 am to SoFla Tideroller
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minimal standards of journalistic integrity?
Whatever that is. No news station, paper, etc ever has any integrity.
Posted on 1/26/14 at 10:10 am to SoFla Tideroller
I don't think the story was out to get the football program and the "alleged" cover up angle.
The story was pointing out Mizzou failed the swimmer by having her sign a waiver to leave school and being forced off the swim team. OTL was making the point they failed the swimmer by not following NCAA protocols that are in placed for athletes to keep their scholarship and remain on team while getting treatment.
Now, the assault, OTL seem to allow viewers to make their own conclusions.
The story was pointing out Mizzou failed the swimmer by having her sign a waiver to leave school and being forced off the swim team. OTL was making the point they failed the swimmer by not following NCAA protocols that are in placed for athletes to keep their scholarship and remain on team while getting treatment.
Now, the assault, OTL seem to allow viewers to make their own conclusions.
This post was edited on 1/26/14 at 10:12 am
Posted on 1/26/14 at 10:12 am to Farmer1906
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Whatever that is. No news station, paper, etc ever has any integrity.
This.
Posted on 1/26/14 at 10:38 am to WildcatMike
This is taken from a previous Mizzou response, on a previous thread, which apparently, you didn't bother to read.
"Once the decision was made to seek treatment in Boston, following the stay in Kansas City, Meghan was consulted again, and Sasha and her family made the final decision to withdraw her from her courses.
This decision was made with Sasha's best interest in mind to protect her academic future and allow her to return to Mizzou when ready. Had this step not been taken, under the circumstances she was at serious risk of failing academically and being unable to return at a later time. At the very least, it would have been very difficult for Sasha to return had this step not been taken, and her athletic eligibility might have been in serious jeopardy."
"Once the decision was made to seek treatment in Boston, following the stay in Kansas City, Meghan was consulted again, and Sasha and her family made the final decision to withdraw her from her courses.
This decision was made with Sasha's best interest in mind to protect her academic future and allow her to return to Mizzou when ready. Had this step not been taken, under the circumstances she was at serious risk of failing academically and being unable to return at a later time. At the very least, it would have been very difficult for Sasha to return had this step not been taken, and her athletic eligibility might have been in serious jeopardy."
Posted on 1/26/14 at 10:46 am to WildcatMike
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This post was edited on 1/26/14 at 10:47 am
Posted on 1/26/14 at 10:48 am to FightTigers
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This story is very sad and awful but the way espn is reporting is a hack job and a clear hit piece on the university
It even more shameful that you are defending rapists and slew of administrators that covered it up and didn't leap to defend a student in their care.
They way that whole thing went down, there is no way to report it and it not be negative. Mama Beckham sure knows her facts.
Posted on 1/26/14 at 10:51 am to CtotheVrzrbck
Who is defending rapists? And who are the "slew of administrators" that covered it up?
Posted on 1/26/14 at 10:53 am to CtotheVrzrbck
It's funny when you can pick and choose what ESPN is reliable for.
Clowney is washed up, lazy, not riding with the team on the bus = credible
Girl sexually assaulted and basically pushed off her time while depressed = obvious slam piece
Mizzery
Clowney is washed up, lazy, not riding with the team on the bus = credible
Girl sexually assaulted and basically pushed off her time while depressed = obvious slam piece
Mizzery
Posted on 1/26/14 at 10:56 am to Mizzou4ever
It only takes one person to do the right thing to help a kid.
No one at Mizzou did right by that girl, they all have excuses.
No one at Mizzou did right by that girl, they all have excuses.
Posted on 1/26/14 at 11:03 am to CNB
If this turns out to be true what do they call the thread? As the Meth Burns?
Posted on 1/26/14 at 11:12 am to CNB
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Clowney is washed up, lazy, not riding with the team on the bus = credible Girl sexually assaulted and basically pushed off her time while depressed
Wow. Are these two stories of the same importance to you. That's interesting.
One of these stories ESPN has the journalistic abilities to cover.
Posted on 1/26/14 at 11:15 am to MIZ_COU
And suddenly ESPN is credible again
Posted on 1/26/14 at 11:23 am to CNB
No you you missed the whole point. ESPN is a joke. There journalistic abilities are equal to their analysis abilities, and the quality of their predictions.
When they do a piece on Clowney I could give a rats arse if they screwed it up or got it exactly right. Outside of some trolling fodder what the hell does it matter.
When they take a tragedy, hack the facts, and sensationalize it despite the family not wanting publicity it pisses me off.
When they do a piece on Clowney I could give a rats arse if they screwed it up or got it exactly right. Outside of some trolling fodder what the hell does it matter.
When they take a tragedy, hack the facts, and sensationalize it despite the family not wanting publicity it pisses me off.
Posted on 1/26/14 at 11:24 am to CNB
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And suddenly ESPN is credible again
Posted on 1/26/14 at 11:31 am to CtotheVrzrbck
So basically you are just shootin' from the hip. Gotcha
Posted on 1/26/14 at 11:33 am to Mizzou4ever
Stop bumping this piece of shite's thread.
Posted on 1/26/14 at 11:41 am to CtotheVrzrbck
To the OP...
Don't take ESPiN at face value.
The youn lady had borderline personality disorder, and one suicide attempt in high school, which was not disclosed to the university during her recruitment.
This incident occurred in February, 3010, but she did not report it to anyone until emailing an online rape crisis center in December, 2010. She told a friend, and he confronted at least 1 player but did nothing else because she did not want to pursue it.
During the summer of 2010, she sustained a back injury that required a back brace and left her unable to train like the rest of the team. The coach, who was new at that time, knew she had some emotional problems, but she did not disclose a sexual assault. He told her to take time off and get healthy.
In march, 2011, she broke up with her boyfriend. In April, 2011 she tried to commit suicide. After discussions between Sasha, her parents, and the academic advisor, they decided to withdraw her from school. Her parents wanted to take her to Boston for inpatient psyche treatment - still not knowing she had been sexually assaulted.
In June, 2011 she wrote in her journal that she told the academic advisor of the assault; the academic advisor claims she didn't. A few days later, she swallowed a bottle of Tylenol, went into organ failure and passed away.
Right before she died, her friend and former player Rolandis Woodland said she mailed him a tape; he got it after she died. The tape allegedly showed her being raped by 3 players, but was so dark he couldn't tell who was who. He's since lost the tape. He did nothing with it because he did not believe she wanted to pursue it. Her journal (which MU still does not have) apparently mentions her believing she had consensual sex with 1 player and being raped by 1 other; Woodland believes she was so drunk she did not realize it was 3 guys.
Mizzou found the chat she had saved with the rape crisis counselor in late 2012, after a records request from her parents. That was the only piece of evidence they had that anything had occurred. They wrote to her parents in January, 2013 to ask if they had more information and if they wanted an investigation; the parents never responded.
There is no coverup here, and no attempt to get her off campus to protect the football program. Rather, this was emotionally fragile student athlete, who did not report this sexual assault to anyone who could have helped her. And had some major things occur between the assault and her ultimate suicide.
I believe she was probably raped, and would love to see anyone involved brought to justice. I wish she had reported it so something could have been done while she was alive. But when she made the choice not to report it, or even tell anyone who could have helped her, slamming the university is just a hatchet job by espn. Just another attempt by the supposed "news" organization to exploit a tragic situation for ratings.
Don't take ESPiN at face value.
The youn lady had borderline personality disorder, and one suicide attempt in high school, which was not disclosed to the university during her recruitment.
This incident occurred in February, 3010, but she did not report it to anyone until emailing an online rape crisis center in December, 2010. She told a friend, and he confronted at least 1 player but did nothing else because she did not want to pursue it.
During the summer of 2010, she sustained a back injury that required a back brace and left her unable to train like the rest of the team. The coach, who was new at that time, knew she had some emotional problems, but she did not disclose a sexual assault. He told her to take time off and get healthy.
In march, 2011, she broke up with her boyfriend. In April, 2011 she tried to commit suicide. After discussions between Sasha, her parents, and the academic advisor, they decided to withdraw her from school. Her parents wanted to take her to Boston for inpatient psyche treatment - still not knowing she had been sexually assaulted.
In June, 2011 she wrote in her journal that she told the academic advisor of the assault; the academic advisor claims she didn't. A few days later, she swallowed a bottle of Tylenol, went into organ failure and passed away.
Right before she died, her friend and former player Rolandis Woodland said she mailed him a tape; he got it after she died. The tape allegedly showed her being raped by 3 players, but was so dark he couldn't tell who was who. He's since lost the tape. He did nothing with it because he did not believe she wanted to pursue it. Her journal (which MU still does not have) apparently mentions her believing she had consensual sex with 1 player and being raped by 1 other; Woodland believes she was so drunk she did not realize it was 3 guys.
Mizzou found the chat she had saved with the rape crisis counselor in late 2012, after a records request from her parents. That was the only piece of evidence they had that anything had occurred. They wrote to her parents in January, 2013 to ask if they had more information and if they wanted an investigation; the parents never responded.
There is no coverup here, and no attempt to get her off campus to protect the football program. Rather, this was emotionally fragile student athlete, who did not report this sexual assault to anyone who could have helped her. And had some major things occur between the assault and her ultimate suicide.
I believe she was probably raped, and would love to see anyone involved brought to justice. I wish she had reported it so something could have been done while she was alive. But when she made the choice not to report it, or even tell anyone who could have helped her, slamming the university is just a hatchet job by espn. Just another attempt by the supposed "news" organization to exploit a tragic situation for ratings.
Posted on 1/26/14 at 1:17 pm to CtotheVrzrbck
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It even more shameful that you are defending rapists and slew of administrators that covered it up and didn't leap to defend a student in their care.
You really are a horrible idiot poster.
Posted on 1/26/14 at 1:28 pm to semotruman
Why does she or her parents need to consent to it being investigated? Just wondering?
If we're going to assume that something actually happened, or even potentially happened, wouldn't it be in the best interest of the school to investigate the matter? How do you sell safety to the other current students and future students if you just let it go? Saying that they didn't investigate to protect her privacy is a cop out. You can investigate without bringing any of it out into the open. You can investigate without naming names.
But to just ignore the event as a tragic blip on the radar seems a bit callous.
If we're going to assume that something actually happened, or even potentially happened, wouldn't it be in the best interest of the school to investigate the matter? How do you sell safety to the other current students and future students if you just let it go? Saying that they didn't investigate to protect her privacy is a cop out. You can investigate without bringing any of it out into the open. You can investigate without naming names.
But to just ignore the event as a tragic blip on the radar seems a bit callous.
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