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Hypothetical Mississippi State question for non state fans

Posted on 10/25/11 at 1:40 pm
Posted by Al Bundy Bulldog
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Posted on 10/25/11 at 1:40 pm
Just curious, what do you guys think Mississippi State football fans should expect and want from their football program? I am a realist an know how difficult it is playing and recruiting against LSU and Alabama.

Just curious what yalls expectations would be for wins and recruiting year to year for Dan Mullen or whoever is our Head Football Coach.
This post was edited on 10/25/11 at 1:42 pm
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 10/25/11 at 1:42 pm to
You've become almost too humble...its scary.
Posted by TheSandman
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 10/25/11 at 1:42 pm to
Your team sucks.
Posted by pankReb
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Member since Mar 2009
64634 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 1:42 pm to
quote:

I am a realist




Not a flame but......




Was it you, coonass, or both that said this offseason that "MSU's talent level will be on par with LSU and Bama this season"?
Posted by Swoopin
Member since Jun 2011
22031 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 1:43 pm to
I can tell you one thing- it's not that grinding shite y'all pulled week 2.

You dug your own grave.
Posted by Al Bundy Bulldog
The Grindfather
Member since Dec 2010
35815 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 1:43 pm to
quote:

Your team sucks.


Just answer my question.
Posted by Wolfpacleader
Member since Jun 2011
1119 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 1:43 pm to
If I was a state fan, I would classify 8-4 as a very good year, and be happy with 7-5(depending on who you play from the east/their strength) with a bowl game win.

As long as no difficult OOC games are scheduled, it seems very reasonable and acheiveable.

As far as recruiting goes, top 50 seems like a reasonable expectation.

MSU might be able to succeed in a different conf, but too many big boys around.
Posted by BoardReader
Arkansas
Member since Dec 2007
6934 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 1:44 pm to
I think you should expect to be a 6 win or better team 7 out of every 10 years. I think you should expect 7 wins every third year or so, and 8 or 9 wins should be a pleasant year. Mind, I think that slipping below these minimums shouldn't really be tolerated, and even meeting those expectations could and should be undermined if you were to get the short end vs. Ole Miss, but there is no reason you shouldn't be aspiring to be where Kentucky was during the Rich Brooks era's high point.
Posted by blzr
MB
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 10/25/11 at 1:44 pm to
A bowl game
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
Just across the water...
Member since Aug 2009
25057 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 1:44 pm to
Depends on whether or not State falls behind Ole Miss in the facilities race.

State is already behind as far as location, although Starkville has improved a lot. And Ole Miss' campus looks nicer as well, although State has nothing to be ashamed of there, either.

But being behind in all three in a small state would be very bad.
Posted by Al Bundy Bulldog
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Member since Dec 2010
35815 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 1:44 pm to
quote:

Was it you, coonass, or both that said this offseason that "MSU's talent level will be on par with LSU and Bama this season"?


It was I. And I stand humbly corrected.
Posted by TheSandman
Notasulga
Member since Nov 2010
19411 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 1:45 pm to
quote:

Just answer my question.

That was answering what to expect fwiw
Posted by Al Bundy Bulldog
The Grindfather
Member since Dec 2010
35815 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 1:46 pm to
quote:

MSU might be able to succeed in a different conf, but too many big boys around.


Ain't happening in a million years. We are a founding member.
Posted by parkjas2001
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Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 10/25/11 at 1:47 pm to
1998 is the top of the mountain for MSU
Posted by MaroonNation
StarkVegas, Mississippi, Bitch!
Member since Nov 2010
21950 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 1:50 pm to
quote:

But being behind in all three in a small state would be USM
Posted by Wolfpacleader
Member since Jun 2011
1119 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 1:51 pm to
quote:

Ain't happening in a million years. We are a founding member


Not saying you guys should leave/I want you to leave, just saying that MSU is hurt by the quality of the schools around them.
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
where TN, MS, and AL meet
Member since Oct 2010
58340 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 1:51 pm to
quote:

1998 is the top of the mountain for MSU


Still don't quite understand how that happened
Posted by BoardReader
Arkansas
Member since Dec 2007
6934 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 1:52 pm to
quote:

1998 is the top of the mountain for MSU


Keep in mind they were breaking the rules then.
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
28634 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 1:54 pm to
MSU has the strength to do what they really want to do... but their problem is being in the SECw right this second.

it's extremely difficult for MSU to keep up with the big boys in the SEC in recruiting... and that's that.

past the recruiting, y'all should have ENOUGH resources to be able to be in good bowl games and even SECw contention here and again for sure.

recruiting is the hard thing for y'all.
Posted by Al Bundy Bulldog
The Grindfather
Member since Dec 2010
35815 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 1:54 pm to
Coach Jackie Sherrill sold his soul to make the SECCG.
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