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re: HUNH against the "spirit of the game"?
Posted on 2/13/14 at 3:40 pm to joeyb147
Posted on 2/13/14 at 3:40 pm to joeyb147
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Just like you chose to ignore 2009 & 2010 because it doesn't fit your agenda.
2009, Bama came into the IB giving up only 9.9 ppg. Gus scores 21.
2010, Bama came into the IB giving up only 1.3 TDs per game. Gus puts 4 on them.
Just like you chose to ignore in 2010, 2011, and 2013 Alabama outgained Auburn in almost every major statistical category. This could go on for days.
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Posted on 2/13/14 at 3:40 pm to All4Qtrs
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this will not be changed by the rule
if you want to change this, then when an O sub is made stop the snap allow all player changes to be made then allow the snap. much like BBall
I agree, which is why I don't like the rule as proposed. I don't think it will really do what I think needs to be done.
If they tweaked it to something more along the lines of a set amount of time (e.g., 10 seconds) from when an offensive substitution is made before the ball is signalled ready for play, I would like it better. Too many officials allow substitutions by the offense without actually allowing the defense time to react. The current rule is that they are supposed to but many don't / are inconsistent.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 3:41 pm to MrAUTigers
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Who was Auburn's QB in 2011?
Gus's recruits.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 3:43 pm to BamaDoc14
quote:Why are you changing your argument now?
Just like you chose to ignore in 2010, 2011, and 2013 Alabama outgained Auburn in almost every major statistical category. This could go on for days.
What does Alabama's offense against Auburn's defense have to do with this discussion? Or did you run out of shite to throw against the wall and just decided to reach in deep for anything else to use?
Congrats on putting up yards & points on D's that finished in the bottom half of the SEC in most statistical categories. Great accomplishment.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 3:45 pm to joeyb147
He does this a lot. Best to just ignore. He thinks the Iron Bowl is some type of statistical nail in the coffin.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 3:46 pm to CrimsonCoast
My feeling is, it shouldn't matter what the rules are, as long as they are the same for everybody. I am an Auburn Fan, but I don't really get a thrill from watching a hurry up offense.
If a Coach can't find a way to line up and be competitive against the other team, when they have to play by the same rules as he does, then he is in over his head.
Let them change the rule, it shouldn't matter anyway, the rules will still be the same for everybody.
If a Coach can't find a way to line up and be competitive against the other team, when they have to play by the same rules as he does, then he is in over his head.
Let them change the rule, it shouldn't matter anyway, the rules will still be the same for everybody.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 3:48 pm to joeyb147
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Why are you changing your argument now?
In much the same manner that you changed the argument. Besides, you don't argue with you aubs. That word actually implies that you can look at things from an objective view and come to logical conclusions.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 3:49 pm to BamaDoc14
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That word actually implies that you can look at things from an objective view and come to logical conclusions.
Says the person who constantly reverts back to analyzing the iron bowl. So objective
Sorry your argument is so flawed.
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Posted on 2/13/14 at 3:49 pm to BamaDoc14
quote:Oh yeah.
n much the same manner that you changed the argument.
What exactly did I change, slick?
Posted on 2/13/14 at 3:49 pm to BamaDoc14
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Gus's recruits.
How did he do with his recruits against saban's recruits this year?
Posted on 2/13/14 at 3:53 pm to joeyb147
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'm guessing you also think QBs changing up snap counts & center's who snap the ball when a DL jumps offsides are also degrading to the fundamental "man-vs-man mentality."
Now what about flea-flickers, fake punts, fake fgs, hb passes, etc? Those are all plays to trick and confuse the defense and create an advantage for the offensive team. They okay?
Exactly, where do the rules stop?
If people were honest they would just say there are coaches who struggle with HU offenses and is looking to gain an edge back through rules rather than using their coaching abilities. It is pretty plain to see. All the other stuff is just spun cotton candy covering up the BS.
This post was edited on 2/13/14 at 3:57 pm
Posted on 2/13/14 at 3:53 pm to BamaDoc14
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You know the flip side to this is Gus gashed Saban's season averages on defense, right?
What was it, 90 ypg rushing coming in? And Gus goes for almost 300?
But you choose to ignore 2011?
If you are banking on Auburn having three QBs on the roster that could not complete a pass in warmups, along with an OL that started 2 TF, 1RFR and a SOPH ever again, you will be very disappointed. By the way Saban is acting, he is not banking on it either.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 3:59 pm to MrAUTigers
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How did he do with his recruits against saban's recruits this year?
Was outplayed in most major statsical categories and won on a freak play that has only happened 4 times in the history of college football.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 4:01 pm to BamaDoc14
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If you are banking on Auburn having three QBs on the roster that could not complete a pass in warmups,
Those were Gus's recruits. And according to Auburn posters on this site, he has a CB playing QB right now.
Kiehl Frazier was also his hand-picked quarterback.
Why is he having so much trouble getting a legitimate QB recruit?
Posted on 2/13/14 at 4:02 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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If people were honest they would just say there are coaches who struggle with HU offenses and is looking to gain an edge back through rules rather than using their coaching abilities.
That's hardly "honest." It's actually pretty homerrific. Honest is more like this - scheme based, defensive-minded coaches want the same ability to scheme as the offense has, rather than timings of scheme changes being dictated entirely by the offense the entire game.
It has very little to do with "coaching ability," though the dummies on both sides want to say that the other is trying to gain an edge to cover up for lack of coaching ability. It has to do with "coaching style."
Posted on 2/13/14 at 4:02 pm to CrimsonCoast
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What baseball said was that by hurrying up and pitching the ball before the batter was ready
How is this a good analogy?
There's no clock in baseball and the batter can call for more time whenever they please.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 4:04 pm to BamaNixon
quote:But if we say that we have no shot, so we will pretend this is about player safety.
scheme based, defensive-minded coaches want the same ability to scheme as the offense has, rather than timings of scheme changes being dictated entirely by the offense the entire game.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 4:04 pm to BamaDoc14
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Was outplayed in most major statsical categories and won on a freak play that has only happened 4 times in the history of college football.
Broke a tie on a freak play. That's how Gus did. He played toe-to-toe against a team with superior talent for 59:59. He out-coached saban. He had saban doing uncharacteristic things because he was in saban's head. That's just the truth of the matter.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 4:06 pm to WDE24
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But if we say that we have no shot, so we will pretend this is about player safety.
Maybe. That's politics. It's utter bullshite, but people throw all sorts of stuff against the wall to see if it sticks.
But that's not really the point of this thread, now is it?
Posted on 2/13/14 at 4:14 pm to BamaNixon
Should the offense be able to dictate whether or not the defense can substitute? IMO it should not.
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