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re: *ClusterF*** of the Day* Moment of silence please. 33 years ago.

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Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 1/26/16 at 10:05 am to
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only after he got his arse kicked by USC with black players in Birmingham

Dumbass, there was already a black person on the team at that point.
Posted by Jacknola
New Orleans
Member since May 2013
4366 posts
Posted on 1/26/16 at 10:05 am to
I met him many times and can honestly say he is one of about three people I've been with that made me want to stand at attention. The others? General Omar Bradley, and General William Westmoreland who commanded the forces in Vietnam when I served there.

Coach Bryant had a quality of unreserved honesty.. and if he was wrong he admitted it. He never carried a grudge, for instance he actually told Georgia Tech (those consummate azzholes) that he would support them if they reapplied for entry into the SEC. This after the incredible dishonest calumny they created about him.

He knew more about football and people-quality than any of his contemporaries, and he would get down in the trenches and show how it was done well into his 50s. He was every bit as detailed as Nick Saban but with a magnetic personality.

Part of that was due to his moral stature. He was a completely devoted husband and no one ever questioned his personal honesty or morality, unlike ... say ... Barry Switzer et. al.

He never once blamed a player for anything, always took it on himself. But he would sit anyone who violated the rules ... including Joe Namath and Ken Stabler. Imagine a coach today sitting the nation's top QB for the Sugar Bowl game that defined the National Champion. He did it with Namath and proceeded to beat Nebraska with backup Steve Sloan at QB.

And he was gracious and outgoing to his coaching peers which is one reason the coach polls always favored him. Keep in mind that he coached and recruited long before there was an internet and recruiting services. You had to find players the hard way ... but his network with high school coaches was the best organized of anyone during this era because he nurtured those relationships.

Recruiting did not tell the whole story because of the uncertainties of the time. He was able to take those recruits and uniformly turn them into a highly performing team. And his football flexibility was in part due to his personal honesty. He was not stubborn.. he would completely change his approach to the game unlike many coaches if the times demanded it.

He knew more about the passing game than anyone, yet moved to the wishbone in the 70s and was almost unbeatable. And his role in integrating the teams of the SEC is widely known. But what isn't known is that when USC ran Slam Bam Cunningham at Alabama (I was in the stadium that day), he had already moved to integrate the Alabama team. Indeed he had black players on the team as early as 1968 and in 1961 had dressed out a black player and had him stand right next to him on national TV gamr against Tennessee at a time that there was only one game a week shown.

Of course the reason was that the Rose Bowl agreement between the Big-10 and PAC-8 had expired that year and he hoped Alabama would be invited so he wanted to project a certain imagine. Regardless... he took criticism for it but it didn't budge him at all.

I know this is the internet-era and the children on here these days seem to delight in being irreverent and downright lying stinking little punks like cardboardboxer. Ok, fine... be like that...(I can understand Tennessee and Auburn people hating... but LSU people?) But this generation could learn a lot from the Greatest Generation if they tried, and one of the greatest was Coach Bryant.

Unfortunately punks like cardboardboxer won't learn though, because they cannot imagine people like that. I'm lucky... I don't have to imagine.




This post was edited on 1/26/16 at 10:13 am
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 1/26/16 at 10:05 am to
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No one made him integrate.



THE GAME made him integrate. Either he did it or Bama would have been left behind competitively. He wasn't some trend setter that showed the world the power of the black athlete or something like that. He was a follower that went along to get rid of some legal trouble and to keep his team competitive in FOOTBALL. Not in politics, not in life, but in FOOTBALL.

Now you are going to tell me George W Bush for sure isn't a racist because a good chunk of people who served in the Iraq War were minorities.
Posted by TiptonInSC
Aiken, SC
Member since Dec 2012
18908 posts
Posted on 1/26/16 at 10:05 am to
He looks thirsty
Posted by Cheeky Fellow
Brookhaven-Oglethorpe MARTA Station
Member since Jan 2016
1458 posts
Posted on 1/26/16 at 10:06 am to
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nope. USC game was in 1970. First black player at Alabama was the following year


Wilbur Jackson signed with Alabama in 1970. He was an ineligible freshman on the 1970 team, but he was already in the program.
This post was edited on 1/26/16 at 10:12 am
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 1/26/16 at 10:06 am to
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This post was edited on 1/26/16 at 10:09 am
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 1/26/16 at 10:07 am to
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was signed the week after the USC game. Didn't actually play at Alabama until the following season


He was a freshman and was in the stands because freshmen couldn't play back then.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64522 posts
Posted on 1/26/16 at 10:07 am to
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Dumbass, there was already a black person on the team at that point.

no "dumbass" there wasn't. that player was signed the week after the USC game
Posted by madddoggydawg
Metairie
Member since Jun 2013
6567 posts
Posted on 1/26/16 at 10:08 am to
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Jacknola


Jesus.

What a loser.
Posted by Cheeky Fellow
Brookhaven-Oglethorpe MARTA Station
Member since Jan 2016
1458 posts
Posted on 1/26/16 at 10:08 am to
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was signed the week after the USC game.



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Wilbur Jackson watched the myth unfold from his seat in Legion Field in Birmingham on a hot September night in 1970. He was an Alabama freshman, his presence virtually unknown. He was the university's first black football recruit, but freshmen were ineligible to play.

It was such a colorful tale that even those who lived through the era often forget the key detail: Bryant had already recruited Jackson.



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Coach Paul Bryant asked Doughty to be Jackson's roommate. This was in the summer of 1970, when there was still some racial tension throughout the Southern states. Jackson was from Ozark, Doughty was from the Minneapolis-St. Paul area of Minnesota.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 1/26/16 at 10:13 am to
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Why? Does smoking pole have cardiovascular benefits?



Nope, but pole dancing does.
Posted by Cheeky Fellow
Brookhaven-Oglethorpe MARTA Station
Member since Jan 2016
1458 posts
Posted on 1/26/16 at 10:13 am to
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Wilbur Jackson's signing with Alabama on December 13, 1969 represented the final nail in the coffin of segregation


Excerpts : "The Missing Ring"
Posted by Cheeky Fellow
Brookhaven-Oglethorpe MARTA Station
Member since Jan 2016
1458 posts
Posted on 1/26/16 at 10:14 am to
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that player was signed the week after the USC game


No, he wasn't
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 1/26/16 at 10:14 am to
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Part of that was due to his moral stature. He was a completely devoted husband and no one ever questioned his personal honesty or morality




That's gold, Jerry.... GOLD
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 1/26/16 at 10:17 am to
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no "dumbass" there wasn't. that player was signed the week after the USC game


Google, how does it work?
Posted by TigerTalker16
Columbia,MO
Member since Apr 2015
11533 posts
Posted on 1/26/16 at 10:17 am to
I expect to find a comment about his relationship with alcohol in this thread.

Yep! There's one!
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 1/26/16 at 10:18 am to
That whole post is a goldmine.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 1/26/16 at 10:19 am to
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THE GAME made him integrate. Either he did it or Bama would have been left behind competitively. He wasn't some trend setter that showed the world the power of the black athlete or something like that. He was a follower that went along to get rid of some legal trouble and to keep his team competitive in FOOTBALL. Not in politics, not in life, but in FOOTBALL.

You couldn't be more wrong.
Posted by iliveinabox
in a box
Member since Aug 2011
24115 posts
Posted on 1/26/16 at 10:20 am to
Looks like a used car salesman
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 1/26/16 at 10:28 am to
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You couldn't be more wrong.



Oh really? Bear DIDN'T recruit black players AFTER OTHER SEC AND MAJOR PROGRAMS did to stay competitive?

Lets take a look at when major programs integrated:

Bama - 1970
USC - 1925
Michigan - 1890
Ohio St - At least 1956
Nebraska - 1891
Texas - 1969
Notre Dame - at least 1953

I could go on, point being neither BAMA nor BEAR were trend setters. They were FOLLOWERS who did it to stay competitive in the national scene.

But please tell me your reasoning why I am wrong, we can all get a good laugh at your naivety.
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