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re: Aren't you Auburn folks getting tired of the gimmicky junk Malzahn does?
Posted on 7/10/16 at 9:44 am to Irons Puppet
Posted on 7/10/16 at 9:44 am to Irons Puppet
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Posted on 7/10/16 at 9:51 am to BamaGradinTn
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You don't have to read a stat sheet to know that an alleged offensive genius should know that Ellis fricking Johnson should never have been hired as a DC.
Malzahn may be a bad head coach, but if his offense was a giant gimmick he couldn't have run train on the SEC multiple times over 5 year stretch. DC's would have figured it out
Posted on 7/10/16 at 9:52 am to Sid E Walker
8-5 equals "poised"
Posted on 7/10/16 at 9:57 am to FourThreeForty
No.....no I'm not. It is a tough O to stop when it gets rolling. Last year was a bit of a hiccup. I don't think Gus has all of a sudden forgotten how to coach O.
Posted on 7/10/16 at 10:00 am to MrAUTigers
He just doesn't know shite about defense.
Posted on 7/10/16 at 10:06 am to 14&Counting
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He just doesn't know shite about defense
He just thought his Offense could overcome any Defensive deficiencies, that was before he hired EJ. The Boom hire proves he knows enough to hire someone who can make it at least average.
Posted on 7/10/16 at 10:09 am to 14&Counting
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He just doesn't know shite about defense.
So a guy who supposedly has made a career out of analyzing defenses and defensive coordinators...their strengths, weaknesses, tendencies, how to exploit them...actually believed Ellis Johnson was a good one.
Posted on 7/10/16 at 10:15 am to BamaGradinTn
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So a guy who supposedly has made a career out of analyzing defenses and defensive coordinators...their strengths, weaknesses, tendencies, how to exploit them...actually believed Ellis Johnson was a good one.
Ellis was good at stopping conventional Offenses, but was lost trying to defend the spread and the HUNH. When you look at the Offenses the last 5 years, only two teams ran any style similar to conventional.
Posted on 7/10/16 at 10:15 am to BamaGradinTn
He was very experienced and had a lot of time in the SEC. It seemed like a good hire at the time. It seemed like a safe hire. The guy had been defensive coordinator at Alabama, Clemson, Mississippi State and South Carolina before being hired at Auburn.
Posted on 7/10/16 at 10:16 am to RandySavage
I should rephrase that to current Alabama. 2009-2014 is one of the best 6 year stretches for both Bama and Auburn. Interestingly enough Aubs have won 1 of 3 and are pretty happy about it as long as the wins are miraculous 
Posted on 7/10/16 at 10:19 am to TTsTowel
I mean did Ellis Johnson all of sudden forget about defense when he got to Auburn? I thought he was pretty good at Bama.....it was of course Dubose that was the problem.
Posted on 7/10/16 at 10:22 am to Glorious
Neither of those wins were miraculous, and Auburn fans aren't satisfied with 1 of 3.
Posted on 7/10/16 at 10:24 am to 14&Counting
I think it was a combination of factors. Coaching, personnel and him trying to counter Auburn's high scoring, fast offense. He also probably "slacked" off a bit during games expecting the offense to win it in the end, or tried to coach the defense to not lose instead of trying to win.
Posted on 7/10/16 at 10:24 am to Glorious
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I should rephrase that to current Alabama. 2009-2014 is one of the best 6 year stretches for both Bama and Auburn. Interestingly enough Aubs have won 1 of 3 and are pretty happy about it as long as the wins are miraculous
No, AU fans look at AUs record against Bama the last 6 years (2-4), and realize the results were not program devastating. Considering this was the best run in Bama history, winning two games and playing for two NC during that stretch is nothing to complain about. Remembering Bears best run when AU lost 9 straight and only two Bowl games, it doesn't compare.
Posted on 7/10/16 at 10:28 am to FourThreeForty
The correct reply to the op is that Jay Jacobs needs to be fired first. No reason to let that hick moron make another bad decision for our athletic dept.
I'd be OK with letting Gus finish his contract if we fired Jacobs. If Gus can find a qb and get rid of Yes Man Lashlee for a real qb coach, Gus might be OK. He did have our no talent WRs running free against thge Gump secondary all game in the Iron Bowl, just no qb to deliver them the ball.
I'd be OK with letting Gus finish his contract if we fired Jacobs. If Gus can find a qb and get rid of Yes Man Lashlee for a real qb coach, Gus might be OK. He did have our no talent WRs running free against thge Gump secondary all game in the Iron Bowl, just no qb to deliver them the ball.
This post was edited on 7/10/16 at 10:29 am
Posted on 7/10/16 at 10:37 am to CaptainBrannigan
quote:I agree. If he is allowed to make another hire, he will hire another "Good Ole Boy, Auburn man" as head coach. Probably Paul Rhoades.
The correct reply to the op is that Jay Jacobs needs to be fired first. No reason to let that hick moron make another bad decision for our athletic dept.
quote:I agree.
I'd be OK with letting Gus finish his contract if we fired Jacobs. If Gus can find a qb and get rid of Yes Man Lashlee for a real qb coach, Gus might be OK
Rhett Lashlee adds nothing to the team. Gus Malzahn needs to be preparing the offense and calling plays. That's what we hired him for. And someone needs to be hired to the offensive coordinator position to add more, different input.
Also, Joey Gatewood gets to Auburn with the 2018 class...if we can keep him.
quote:True. Hopefully the young guys will be thrown out into the fire. The upperclassmen are mediocre, as a whole, at best.
He did have our no talent WRs running free against thge Gump secondary all game in the Iron Bowl, just no qb to deliver them the ball.
Posted on 7/10/16 at 10:40 am to Irons Puppet
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Considering this was the best run in Bama history, winning two games and playing for two NC during that stretch is nothing to complain about. Remembering Bears best run when AU lost 9 straight and only two Bowl games, it doesn't compare.
So what you're saying is when Saban leaves Bama that Auburn is going to rape you even harder than after Bear died because we're in better position?
In the decade following Saban we win 6 straight SEC championships instead of the 3 straight we won to close out the 80's?
In the 25 years it takes you to find another generational coach and get off probation we beat you 12 straight times instead of just 6?
Thanks for the encouragement, bud
If that's the end payoff then keep doing what you're doing because I can't wait 
Posted on 7/10/16 at 10:47 am to BamaGradinTn
Maybe that is a better point. Many AU fans do all they can do to NOT blame Gus.
Gus won the Natty - not the coach who hired him.
Ellis Johnson was the reason the team sucked - not the coach who hired him.
QB is the problem - not the guy actually coaching him.
Recruiting is great, players are not living up to potential - not the guy who is actually coaching/recruiting them.
Gus won the Natty - not the coach who hired him.
Ellis Johnson was the reason the team sucked - not the coach who hired him.
QB is the problem - not the guy actually coaching him.
Recruiting is great, players are not living up to potential - not the guy who is actually coaching/recruiting them.
This post was edited on 7/10/16 at 10:48 am
Posted on 7/10/16 at 10:47 am to BowlJackson
We all know that Dabo is going to be Saban's replacement, so AU will be in position to make a long run if Gus can turn it around this year.
BTW I am not a Bammer.
BTW I am not a Bammer.
Posted on 7/10/16 at 10:54 am to Bham4Tide
quote:I fully blame Gus Malzahn for the quarterback position right now. That is the only real issue on offense.
Many AU fans do all they can do to NOT blame Gus.
I question his hire of Kevin Steele and think he will underwhelm, but Auburn needed a guy that wouldn't jump for a head coaching job. There has been serious instability at the defensive coordinator position lately. Paul Rhoades, Ted Roof, Brian Van Gorder, Ellis Johnson, Will Muschamp and Kevin Steele...all since 2008. That isn't good for any defense.
quote:Rhett Lashlee is a puppet. Gus Malzahn hasn't proven he can develop a high school quarterback, or a pocket passer at Auburn. He did wonders with Nick Marshall and Cam Newton, but it seems his offense is only successful against serious competition when the quarterback is an excellent athlete than also pass when needed.
QB is the problem - not the guy actually coaching him.
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