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re: SC House Votes to remove flag: it's coming down folks
Posted on 7/9/15 at 10:04 am to Tropic Lightning
Posted on 7/9/15 at 10:04 am to Tropic Lightning
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Here comes The Law of Unintended Consequences...
All the Rebel sympathizers in SC will move to Mississippi now.
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 10:07 am to Stonehog
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All the Rebel sympathizers in SC will move to Mississippi now.
And the IQs of both states goes up.
I keed I keed...
Posted on 7/9/15 at 10:12 am to Stonehog
No you ignorant arse. This is an assault on The 1st Amendment.
This is how Rights are eroded. You chip away around the edges.
This is how Rights are eroded. You chip away around the edges.
Posted on 7/9/15 at 10:13 am to Tropic Lightning
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This is an assault on The 1st Amendment.
In what way?
Posted on 7/9/15 at 10:15 am to Stonehog
The first amendment clearly protects his right to have the government fly the flag of his choosing. Do you even constitution, bro?
Posted on 7/9/15 at 10:16 am to Carolina Tide
The U.S. federal government is corrupt, evil and oppressive.
Maybe the rebels were just ahead of their time.
Maybe the rebels were just ahead of their time.
Posted on 7/9/15 at 10:20 am to Tropic Lightning
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This is an assault on The 1st Amendment.
No it's not.
Posted on 7/9/15 at 10:21 am to Dawg in Beaumont
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The first amendment clearly protects his right to have the government fly the flag of his choosing. Do you even constitution, bro?
It's not like Obama sent down troops to tear down the flag.
This was voted on by the SC government with the full support of the Governor. Didn't y'all say just a few weeks ago that this should be left up to the state? Well the state voted, and it's coming down, so what's the problem. How has the constitution been violated?
Posted on 7/9/15 at 10:24 am to Ted2010
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Finally, racism is no more.
You hear that black folks? We's FREE now! Racism gone Forevah now!!
Posted on 7/9/15 at 10:25 am to Carolina Tide
I was being sarcastic. Honestly thought it was obvious.
Of course the first amendment protects private speech. Anyone can fly a flag at their house. The right to have the government fly a flag you really like isn't a first amendment protection.
Of course the first amendment protects private speech. Anyone can fly a flag at their house. The right to have the government fly a flag you really like isn't a first amendment protection.
Posted on 7/9/15 at 10:32 am to Henry Jones Jr
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No it doesn't. It shows that when people get their feelings hurt and want a knee jerk reaction, that their wishes will be granted.
People in this state wanted this flag gone for years now. Their side didn't gain any traction unfortunately until the shooting. quote:
People have asked this over and over but why doesn't someone tell me again. What flag was flown over the slaver ships coming to America? It wasn't the confederate cross or stars and bars. Why don't we remove that flag as well?
Because the Stars and Stripes have flown over all Negro battalions in the civil war, Black Churches, Black schools, Black Universities, Black towns, and many many many many marches for freedom and civil rights. And not just for black people, but for women, the Irish, the Jews, and most recently the gays. So yeah the US flag has a dark and bloody history, as does any flag, and any country. But it has also stood as a symbol for freedom and tolerance for far longer, and not even you can deny that.
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Ooooh because that doesn't fit the narrative that only the south was/is racist.
It's mighty hard to convince someone from outside your state that you're not racist when you fly a flag that has been used for racism and the defiance of civil rights. Doesn't exactly scream "progressive".
This post was edited on 7/9/15 at 1:28 pm
Posted on 7/9/15 at 10:33 am to Dawg in Beaumont
Sorry about that. I've been on the defensive here.
Posted on 7/9/15 at 10:34 am to Carolina Tide
Good on South Carolina.
Posted on 7/9/15 at 10:38 am to Tropic Lightning
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This is an assault on The 1st Amendment.
Posted on 7/9/15 at 10:39 am to Agforlife
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Meanwhile people are still beating and killing each other because they have different skin colors. I understand how that flag can make people feel but let's start looking at the real problem and it's root causes. If we can start to fix those then I will be impressed that the politicians did something. In my honest opinion removing that flag just gives it more power to represent hate. There is so much more wrong with our society in that regard that we should be focusing on. Jmo
So you honestly think that they aren't going to fix the other problems because it came down?
This post was edited on 7/9/15 at 1:29 pm
Posted on 7/9/15 at 10:42 am to Carolina Tide
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So you honestly think that aren't going to fix the other problems because it came down?
I think a better way of phrasing it is that politicians (and probably people in general) are much better at symbolic gestures than problem solving. So if you're expecting some sort of epiphany from politicians in fixing racially-related and -influenced issues, you're probably going to be disappointed.
Posted on 7/9/15 at 10:46 am to Carolina Tide
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It's mighty hard to convince someone from outside your state that you're not racist when you fly a flag that has been used for racism and the defiance of civil rights. Doesn't exactly scram "progressive".
I wouldn't be trying to convince someone I'm not a racist if they're moronic enough to think I'm automatically a racist because of something my state government chooses to do.
Posted on 7/9/15 at 10:50 am to the808bass
I'm upset at how much I've agreed with you recently 808.
Posted on 7/9/15 at 10:52 am to Carolina Tide
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So you honestly think that aren't going to fix the other problems because it came down?
Is it going to encourage families that have been raised in a racist environment to suddenly change that mentality? Address mental illness/health in all communities? Removed community "leaders" like Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson who directly profit from the oppression of African-Americans?
Taking down a flag isn't fixing any of that. And I don't see many politicians standing up to propose solutions to any of that either.
Posted on 7/9/15 at 10:53 am to Henry Jones Jr
I saw a study yesterday that less than 10% of Americans understand what The First Amendment does.
Those of you mocking me have proven that study true.
We are doomed.
Those of you mocking me have proven that study true.
We are doomed.
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