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re: Hello anybody have thoughts on the spring game????

Posted on 4/12/17 at 1:43 am to
Posted by montanagator
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Posted on 4/12/17 at 1:43 am to
I want us to mix the spread option in and give Toney a legit shot to beat out Franks. If we start incorporating option elements it'll be easier to bring young QBs along-- see Hurts last year with Bama.
Posted by montanagator
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Posted on 4/12/17 at 1:44 am to
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I think he is handed the ball if healthy.



If this happens 2018 is a hot seat year for Mac.
Posted by montanagator
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Posted on 4/12/17 at 1:47 am to
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You are assuming that if Del Rio starts we will not be successful.


What has Del Rio shown that would make you think he'd be successful against good defenses?
Posted by UFMatt
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Posted on 4/12/17 at 9:49 am to
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What has Del Rio shown that would make you think he'd be successful against good defenses?


From what I have seen, when healthy, I trust him more than a red shirt Freshman that hasn't played a down in the regular season. But that's just me. I'll leave the decision up to Coach Mac and support whatever he decides. I am sure he will play the QB that he thinks will have the most success in 2017, not 2018 or 2019. Franks may be the future but it may not be that soon.
Posted by boXerrumble
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Posted on 4/12/17 at 4:07 pm to
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From what I have seen, when healthy, I trust him more than a red shirt Freshman that hasn't played a down in the regular season.


So basically this statement is based on games vs. UMass, Kentucky, and North Texas?

Comon man...
Posted by dbuchanon
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Posted on 4/12/17 at 6:47 pm to
Well, scratch Trask's name off the list, having surgery.

Posted by finchmeister08
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Posted on 4/12/17 at 8:10 pm to
I hate it for him but let's be honest. He wasn't going to play this fall.
Posted by UFMatt
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Posted on 4/13/17 at 10:56 am to
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So basically this statement is based on games vs. UMass, Kentucky, and North Texas?

Comon man...


So you are going to base Franks chance of success on his 2 spring games?
2016 - 3 picks
2017 - 8-14 passing

Double comon man, back at you!

Look if Coach says that Franks is the best chance to win games, I'm 100% in support. Just don't throw Del Rio out with the bathwater yet because he may be our QB in 2017, if so, I'll support that decision also.

Go Gators!
This post was edited on 4/13/17 at 10:57 am
Posted by BloodSweat&Beers
One Particular Harbor, Fl
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 4/13/17 at 12:26 pm to
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So you are going to base Franks chance of success on his 2 spring games?
2016 - 3 picks
2017 - 8-14 passing

Double comon man, back at you!

Look if Coach says that Franks is the best chance to win games, I'm 100% in support. Just don't throw Del Rio out with the bathwater yet because he may be our QB in 2017, if so, I'll support that decision also.

Go Gators!


If Del Rio is starting I am going to be hyper critical of every mistake and miss throw. He makes throws that his arm can not make and that leads to 8 INTs.
Posted by UFMatt
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Posted on 4/13/17 at 1:36 pm to
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If Del Rio is starting I am going to be hyper critical of every mistake and miss throw. He makes throws that his arm can not make and that leads to 8 INTs.


I'm not here to defend Del Rio, just stating that if he starts it is because the coaches believe that he gives us the best chance to win football games. I will support whatever the coaches decide and support whomever is under center and yes, will be critical of poor play at all positions as well as with poor coaching decisions. We pay Coach Mac a lot of money to make these decisions so lets support what he believes will win ball games. Go Gators!
Posted by BloodSweat&Beers
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 4/13/17 at 1:44 pm to
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I'm not here to defend Del Rio, just stating that if he starts it is because the coaches believe that he gives us the best chance to win football games. I will support whatever the coaches decide and support whomever is under center and yes, will be critical of poor play at all positions as well as with poor coaching decisions. We pay Coach Mac a lot of money to make these decisions so lets support what he believes will win ball games. Go Gators!



There is no doubt that Mac knows a lot more about football than me. I will question Nuss and his ability to develop QBs if Del Rio is the best guy. He will have missed a lot of practice with injuries and a more talented Franks/Trask will have had two Springs, two Summers, and two Falls to get ready.
Posted by atlgator
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Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 4/13/17 at 7:54 pm to
I take the spring game with a very small grain of salt. Much of Franks development will come with him working on his mechanics, command of the playbook, getting chemistry with the wide receivers, and studying film over this summer.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 4/13/17 at 8:18 pm to
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will question Nuss and his ability to develop QBs if Del Rio is the best guy.


I'm not sticking up for Nuss, but Del Rio has shown that he can make some pretty damn good passes as long as they're short to intermediate. He just doesn't have that long distance timing like Appleby did, which is a huge problem in our offense and has been for quite some time.

I just don't think we should think too far about Del Rio winning the job, but his seat would be molten lava. He'd have to play absolutely perfect games, because Franks is a legit deep threat and has wheels.
Posted by reel_gator8
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Posted on 4/13/17 at 10:35 pm to
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BloodSweat&Beers


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If Del Rio is starting I am going to be hyper critical of every mistake and miss throw. He makes throws that his arm can not make and that leads to 8 INTs.


Thats bullshite BST, so...if you dont get what YOU want...you will lead the jeering section? Ok...got it.

And if Franks starts you and others will be screaming to the sky when he throws multiple picks too ? I know which one of the two would be more prone to throwing picks and his initials are FF.

He fires fastballs when the receiver is 8 feet away...he is just too pumped up and cant seem to understand what he is being taught. Cannon for an arm and so far a derringer for a brain. It will take time for him to develop, WTF do you think a QB who has no snaps at all in a real game will do? He shits his pants in spring games for crying out loud. He will be a great QB....but doubt it is in 2017.

Del Rio is calm and can make the throws necessary when its intermediate...and remember man...we will have a potent run game to help. We cant finish last in the SEC every damn year running the ball...its a tribute to our stout defense we won the east two yrs in a row.
Posted by dbuchanon
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 4/14/17 at 1:11 am to
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We cant finish last in the SEC every damn year running the ball..


Poor/weak arm QB play had a hand in that, defenses knew they had nothing to worry about deep so they could stack the box. Franks may fire a hot one or a pick here and there but fear of the big bomb will at least keep defenses honest and help our run game in a big way.
Posted by atlgator
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Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 4/14/17 at 10:49 am to
Exactly. When a defense KNOWS that your QB can't beat them, you aren't going to be able to run the ball. Hopefully Franks creates some fear for defensive coordinators so they think twice about loading up the box without running the risk of Franks throwing a 50 yard bomb over their heads.

FSU has done this better than any team we've played. They've stacked the box and blitzed the shite out of the last two years and dared our QB to make plays. Treon had wide open receivers all game, and so did Appleby. FSU knew that they couldn't exploit it, so that's the result. If Franks can make teams pay for loading up the box and blitzing every play, it will open so many other doors for our offense and it's productivity.
Posted by slayerxing
Gainesville
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 4/14/17 at 11:59 am to
I have to be honest, I don't really know what UF has this year.

I won't be surprised if UF beats Michigan by 10, or loses by 40 again.

It's just a total mystery at this point and the spring game showed us nothing we didn't already know.



Posted by atlgator
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Posted on 4/14/17 at 12:07 pm to
I think we have a minimum of 9 wins and a max of 11 in the regular season.

I think we will win every game except for three toss ups: LSU, Michigan, and FSU.

I don't buy the UGA hype and I don't think we will lose more than 2 home games
Posted by slayerxing
Gainesville
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Posted on 4/14/17 at 3:06 pm to
We got pulverized at Arkansas last year after UGA, and UF has Missouri sitting in a similar position, being forced to go play out west against a team that will probably be decent just like the razorbacks from 2016... Tennessee beat UF by double digits, @ South Carolina is never easy, TAMU at home will be a challenge and is certainly not a give me. UF is also @ Kentucky, a place where they barely won 2 years ago with a similar QB situation. Assuming Georgia is a win and not a toss up seems overconfident to me, but whatever, UF has destroyed them three years running now.

I see the floor at 7 wins, and the ceiling at 10 in the regular season.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 4/14/17 at 10:20 pm to
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We got pulverized at Arkansas last year after UGA


Big time failure on our coaching department but Arkansas is known to do strangely amazing -- we just hobbled into that game. Hurt defense, they hadn't had time to adjust all too well.

Arkansas goes out and destroys us, then gets beaten by fricking Mizzou who got outright dominated in the East, so I think we just 1. caught them at an unfortunate time of the year, 2. came in uninspired and 3. had a bad gameplan.

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Tennessee beat UF by double digits, @ South Carolina is never easy, TAMU at home will be a challenge and is certainly not a give me. UF is also @ Kentucky, a place where they barely won 2 years ago with a similar QB situation. Assuming Georgia is a win and not a toss up seems overconfident to me, but whatever, UF has destroyed them three years running now.

I see the floor at 7 wins, and the ceiling at 10 in the regular season.


The good news is that, total, we really only have 3 Away games the entire year. The other 2 are ''Neutral Games''.

We play the three worst East teams on the road in Kentucky, Missouri and South Carolina (Vandy finished worse than Kentucky, but sue me, I think they'll be better this year).

So we have all of our hard games at home, and if you ask me...there will be no better year to tune our offense than this one. None of those road games look that vicious, and from September 9th to October 28th we leave the state of Florida one time.

I don't see us losing four games, we should at least keep it at three against LSU, FSU and Michigan.

There are some toss-ups, but Georgia looked fricking bad. I don't know if Smart has what it takes to coach -- they literally recruited top ten almost every year beforehand and they looked like hot dogshit.

Outside of Georgia, in the East? There really is no other team outside of Tennessee which is barely holding its program together and pulled a miracle comeback last year against a broken offense.
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