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re: Hello anybody have thoughts on the spring game????

Posted on 4/18/17 at 8:01 am to
Posted by UFMatt
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Posted on 4/18/17 at 8:01 am to
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better get used to it.


NO
Posted by atlgator
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Posted on 4/18/17 at 8:22 am to
Oh I'm not saying that we have anything better than Francois by any means. My point was that last year Francois did not beat us.

I think Alabama is going to beat FSU by 28. I don't buy FSUs offense. Their OL is bad, they lost a once in a generation running back (and no, Cam Akers is not Dalvin Cook), and they don't have any wide receivers on Antonio Callaway's level. Their defense will be good, but their offense will struggle. I think they'll lose 2-3 games. Alabama and one or two of Louisville/Clemson/Miami/Florida
Posted by reel_gator8
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Posted on 4/18/17 at 11:17 am to
The girls school had UL ring up 60 points on their sorry azzs.

Better get used to it.
This post was edited on 4/18/17 at 11:20 am
Posted by montanagator
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Posted on 4/19/17 at 4:51 pm to
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If Del Rio is starting I am going to be hyper critical of every mistake and miss throw. He makes throws that his arm can not make and that leads to 8 INTs.



I think, if he's healthy, Del Rio can win 8 or 9 games he's good enough to beat teams where we have a pronounced talent advantage. The problem is that he either needs to be significantly more accurate or have a significantly stronger arm to move the ball against teams that can just man up our receiving corps.
Posted by montanagator
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Posted on 4/19/17 at 4:53 pm to
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Del Rio is calm and can make the throws necessary when its intermediate...and remember man...we will have a potent run game to help. We cant finish last in the SEC every damn year running the ball...its a tribute to our stout defense we won the east two yrs in a row.



That's what happens when you have a QB who struggles to complete passes beyond 20 yards, everything gets compressed and its harder to run or pass. Basically with Del Rio at QB against good teams we're essentially always in a Red Zone offense- a 25 yard box from the line of scrimmage.
Posted by montanagator
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Posted on 4/19/17 at 4:56 pm to
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Michigan. Both could probably do so by double digits.


If this happens Mac should be on the hot seat. Losing by double digits to a team that returns like 5 starters total would be nothing less than a massive indictment of the mediocrity of our coaching staff.
Posted by boXerrumble
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Posted on 4/19/17 at 6:29 pm to
Yes.

If we lose to Michigan, McElwain should be firmly on the hotseat for the rest of 2017.
Posted by dbuchanon
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Posted on 4/19/17 at 6:41 pm to
Good grief, can we play the damn game before we fire everybody
Posted by atlgator
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Posted on 4/20/17 at 6:32 am to
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That's what happens when you have a QB who struggles to complete passes beyond 20 yards, everything gets compressed and its harder to run or pass. Basically with Del Rio at QB against good teams we're essentially always in a Red Zone offense- a 25 yard box from the line of scrimmage.


Couple this with being the worst red zone offense in the country last year and you won't like what you get
Posted by boXerrumble
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Posted on 4/20/17 at 7:28 am to
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Good grief, can we play the damn game before we fire everybody


Michigan returns 5 starters, just 1 on defense.

If we get blown out by Michigan, I'll be pissed off to day the least.
Posted by atlgator
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Posted on 4/20/17 at 8:28 am to
No reason for us to not compete with, if not beat Michigan.

Harbaugh has been throwing a temper tantrum all spring about how poorly their spring went. He didn't do a single press conference all spring. Partly because he's an arse, but also partly because of how their team looked in the spring.
Posted by tjv305
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Posted on 4/20/17 at 4:42 pm to
Del rio is more likely to be consistent but he doesn't have the upside that we need to make the playoffs. If we had Bama's talent I wouldn't mind Del Rio as the starting QB but we don't so we need a QB who can make big plays.
Posted by UFMatt
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Posted on 4/21/17 at 7:59 am to
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Del rio is more likely to be consistent but he doesn't have the upside that we need to make the playoffs.


Reality check, no matter who starts at QB, we are not close to being a playoff team. We should win 10-11 games again this year but are not close to competing at a playoff level, at this time. Give Mac time and I believe we will get there. It's all about winning games, whoever the QB is, we should support the decision unless it is a total failure, then we can second guess the coach, bitch and complain. That is how most Gator fans roll. Go Gators.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 4/21/17 at 2:18 pm to
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Reality check, no matter who starts at QB, we are not close to being a playoff team.


I don't know about the words ''not close''. I don't think getting to the playoffs is going to be possible this year without...more luck than we can think of.

However, next year (not like Tennessee's next year complex) should be a breakout year. Now our defense is young on the back end, but I like, so far, how we've been able to get depth on defense and good players on offense.

I think we're a good year and a half away from playoff caliber -- but we'll still need luck to get there as long as Alabama is Alabama.
Posted by tjv305
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Posted on 4/21/17 at 7:55 pm to
I would agree it's not that likely but we would have a better chance with a QB with some talent. IMO if we had Grier last year then we would have been a playoff contender . This year BAMA is reloading and returning a QB that can't pass the ball. With a good QB we should go 10-2 or better then we are one game from the playoffs. A good QB and a good play calling on offense would make a huge difference.
Posted by UFMatt
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Posted on 4/24/17 at 8:02 am to
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I don't know about the words ''not close''


"Not close," may not be my best choice of words. I am a diehard, I believe we should beat any team that we line up against but bringing this conversation back to the original post, I just saw some issues in the spring game that playoff teams don't have. IMO, The O line is still soft. QB is a question, depth issues all over the lineup especially on the defensive side of the ball. On the bright side we have some play makers on offense if we can get them the ball and the kicking and punting games should be solid. For the third year in a row I predict a 10+ win season and believe that we are heading in the right direction. Go Gators.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Posted on 4/24/17 at 11:25 am to
The Spring Game says little to nothing about the future to come. We haev no idea what they'll look like against competition until the first game of the season. I don't have nearly as much fear as I had, and honestly...this is the first year in a long time we've got three to four real quarterbacks on the roster.

Not athletes pretending to play quarterback, not journeymen walkons, not third or fourth rate from Purdue.

Real, bonafide, we recruited them and they're quarterbacks. That alone makes me happy. The rest...we gon' find out.
Posted by reel_gator8
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 4/24/17 at 12:27 pm to
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UFMatt


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The O line is still soft. QB is a question, depth issues all over the lineup especially on the defensive side of the ball.


Have to disagree...I saw some hard hitting on the defensive side of the ball during spring game which is always limits what the defense can do to avoid injuries...on Callaways TD the defender was a walk on. The Oline will be fine...we gave second and third teamers a lot of reps...they deserve it..they bust their butts too.

Come September we will be fine...remember we DO have experience in the secondary, Washington, Harris, Duke and Chauncey are all capable....now behind them? The depth will have extreme talent but just not the snaps. We will have guys back like Sherit along with a lot of sophs and juniors on the DL who will be stout. LBs? Loaded really with talent, Reese, Joseph, Moon, K. Johnson are a good start and remember we play a lot of nickle/dimes where there may only be one or two LBs on the field.

The kicking game is huge and we are aces there. Top three in the country. Special teams can often determine outcomes. Hard to march downfield 80 yds for almost any college team. Odds when you start possessions at 25yd line or deeper that you score? Something like 8% at best.
Posted by montanagator
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Posted on 4/24/17 at 12:51 pm to
Rewatching the game the interior of the Oline worries me, given our lack of depth at DT they shouldn't have struggeled so much with penetration.
Posted by UFMatt
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Posted on 4/24/17 at 1:37 pm to
That is my concern with the O-line. Against second team D-line you would think that they would get better push and pass protection than what I observed in the spring game.

We will be fine, some young Gators are going to have to step up and contribute to give the starters some rest.
If that happens and we get good QB play from either of the QBs that win the job, we could have a big year.

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