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re: Hello anybody have thoughts on the spring game????

Posted on 4/15/17 at 9:08 am to
Posted by slayerxing
Gainesville
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Posted on 4/15/17 at 9:08 am to
Florida lost 3 games last year and that could have been easily been 4.

I don't see any great improvement on this roster, relative to the other teams that UF will be playing, to assume that next year will be much different, especially if injuries hit again.

I think FSU beats UF again, and probably Michigan. Both could probably do so by double digits. UF probably loses one more we all think they shouldn't, but maybe it's good enough to win the east again, especially since the 2 losses I see will be OOC.

Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 4/15/17 at 11:16 am to
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Florida lost 3 games last year and that could have been easily been 4.


We also had a game cancelled and moved.

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I don't see any great improvement on this roster, relative to the other teams that UF will be playing, to assume that next year will be much different, especially if injuries hit again.


Wide Receivers are older, our biggest producers were underclassmen.

Oline is 100% going to be better, we have more depth for once.

TEs are going to be better.

RBs are going to be better.

Quarterback is the only one that's a mystery regarding imrpovement.

Defense looks sharp, even after last year when more than half of our starters were out against Iowa, they still seemed to play pretty well.

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I think FSU beats UF again, and probably Michigan. Both could probably do so by double digits. UF probably loses one more we all think they shouldn't, but maybe it's good enough to win the east again, especially since the 2 losses I see will be OOC.


Tennessee, A&M, LSU, etc. etc.. play us at home, which has been a pretty strong point of McElwain's tenure. Tennessee got gutted, A&M just ain't that good and we beat LSU with guys most Gator fans had never heard of with essentially a backup quarterback from Purdue.

After that, we have FSU at home and Michigan at a Neutral site.

The roster is 100% different, the schedule is decidedly easier.

This would/should be the end of McElwain's tenure if he couldn't get it done this year, honestly.
Posted by atlgator
Jacksonville, Atlanta, Gainesville
Member since Aug 2014
5520 posts
Posted on 4/15/17 at 3:06 pm to
People minimize the value of experience, especially in the college game. The OL will gel and be better because of their experience. Scarlett will benefit from better QB play if Franks is the guy we're looking for. The wide receivers will obviously benefit from better QB play. I think our offense has a chance to really take off this year and continue to get better and better as the talent on offense improves.

The defense has more question marks, but we know what we have in Cece, Taven Bryan, Khairi Clark, Jabari Zuniga, David Reese, Vosean Joseph, Duke Dawson, Chauncey gardner, and Marcell Harris. We need some young guys to step up at corner and maybe a guy like Moon to step up at linebacker. I think some of these Young's guys can play, and we will be able to ease them into game experience while the older and more established guys carry a majority of the load on defense. I think UF will be okay.

By the way, Michigan starting QB Wilton Speight went 9-22 for 73 yards and a pick-6 in their spring game. Not that that has anything to do with how he'll play in Dallas come August, but he's not some incredible phenom. I think that they are beatable. And I think that UF can be good enough to compete for the SEC and a playoff spot if Franks can be better than Appleby was last year.
Posted by slayerxing
Gainesville
Member since Feb 2010
11045 posts
Posted on 4/15/17 at 5:16 pm to
I still think UF is going to win the east. I just think UF is going to be doing it at 9-3 like last year.

UF has no quality OL depth. If anything happens to Taylor or Ivey UF has no decent tackles behind them. And UF isn't exactly blowing people away with quality interior guys.

This SHOULD be the best OL at UF since at least 2014, but I'm not sure it's even as good as that group, which many felt was sort of an underachieving unit in college.

RB looks solid, probably not all SEC caliber, but solid. They can't do much without help from the OL though.

WR is the unit I expect the most from. Return a ton of talent and experience, get Massey back, and a quality player in Robinson, maybe Toney can do something out there but I doubt he makes a full transition to WR this year. Point is, this is the best unit on the offense, and they REALLY need to step up. But they can only do so much if there isn't a QB....

QB as said is ?

TE is just meh. MEH. And they can't block still.

Front 7 should be solid as usual, if perhaps just a notch below what we've come to expect. And GOD FORBID injuries hit at DT/NT. The pass rush could be special.

Back end has no quality depth at all. None. Some new guys better be ready to play right away.

Hopefully KR/PR teams are better this year. Kicking game should be awesome.

This just doesn't look like an 11 win team to me. 10 wins looks like the ceiling and a solid year. The wrong injuries and 7-5 wouldn't shock me.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 4/15/17 at 9:52 pm to
Should be hot as frick in Dallas, too, which gives us an advantage.

I like the experience we have of guys who have actually played together, grown together and know what the others will do. It's the first year we've had some cohesion since I don't know when.

To Slayer: I'm not saying we should be a really, really good team -- however, we should be above average with the recruits and progression we've been seeing these last few years.

My prediction is MORE from our schedule, which is the easiest in who knows how long?

Michigan in a Neutral site where it's going to be hot and miserable to guys who train in the North.

UNCO at home should be a cakewalk.

Tennessee at home -- they lost about their entire team, we're going to be looking for vengeance. Losing in Tennessee is probably the worst experience ever.

UK on the road, they're not there yet talent wise and we absolutely slaughtered them with Del Rio.

Vandy at home, I actually think we give them a beat down for the first time in a long time.

LSU on a bye week, if Orgeron couldn't outcoach our literally broken team at home, we definitely, at the very least, stand a chance at our place.

A&M, I mean, come on, it's A&M and it's at home.

UGA in Jax, we own the dogs and their coaching was fricking awful last year. Kirby is not the guy, and he will never be the guy. Georgia is not a place to learn, and he is literally their Will Muschamp from a strategic standpoint. And we have a Bye Week before we play them.

AT Mizzou, it's fricking Mizzou.

AT South Carolina, we ain't got nothing to worry about. They're still rebuilding.

VS UAB, we got it.

VS FSU, probably going to lose, should lose.

So my thing is: This schedule is beyond facile, if he can't get it done right now, he will never get it done. There's no way we should lose more than 3 games, and I'd be disappointed if we lost more than 2.
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
35566 posts
Posted on 4/15/17 at 10:30 pm to
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Should be hot as frick in Dallas, too, which gives us an advantage.

It's gonna be so hot inside that climate controlled stadium. I'd hate to be there.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 4/15/17 at 10:38 pm to
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It's gonna be so hot inside that climate controlled stadium. I'd hate to be there.


Didn't know, but you don't have to be such a whiny bitch just about everything.

And just as a PS, the roof can open, and the event status hasn't been determined yet.
This post was edited on 4/15/17 at 10:43 pm
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
35566 posts
Posted on 4/15/17 at 11:51 pm to
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
52279 posts
Posted on 4/16/17 at 12:55 am to
Im predicting 11-1 with a loss to FSU.

Anything below 9 wins barring catastrophic injury plague, and McElwain should be on the hotseat in 2018.

The schedule is cakewalk this year compared to 2015 and 2016.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 4/16/17 at 3:55 am to
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Im predicting 11-1 with a loss to FSU.

Anything below 9 wins barring catastrophic injury plague, and McElwain should be on the hotseat in 2018.

The schedule is cakewalk this year compared to 2015 and 2016.


That's what it should be -- barring catastrophic injury to multiple players, I totally agree.

This is the year he's got to get it done. One less away game, two neutral games and ''bye'' weeks for the toughest teams outside of FSU.
Posted by atlgator
Jacksonville, Atlanta, Gainesville
Member since Aug 2014
5520 posts
Posted on 4/16/17 at 7:10 am to
And even FSU has the built in bye with a scrub out of conference opponent leading us up to the game against them.

I said a few months back that I think we go 11-1. Anything worse than 9-3 in going to be very concerning. Period. Injuries or not.

We have a great home schedule this year, and under Mac we haven't lost but one home game. I don't think we will lose many at home, and I hope that if we do, it isn't to FSU because I'm ready to beat those fricking bastards.
Posted by reel_gator8
Seminole,Fl
Member since May 2012
11060 posts
Posted on 4/16/17 at 7:53 am to
Okay, I need to wade in the deep end of the pool. The Gator schedule is the best we have had in a while...as Straw pointed out. I am more afraid of @ UK than the girls school at home. I think we turn the corner ands beat the girls school anyway.

Barring mass injuries, we will be fine. The OL will be an asset instead of a liability as recent years have shown. We have finished dead last in rushing the past several years in the SEC...that cant happen anymore and Im sure it wont this year. The run game is crucial to keep third downs to manageable situations where the defense has to worry about a 2 or 3 yd run vs pass.

The defense will be solid. The naysayers are wrong. We will be back in Hotlanta again.
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
52279 posts
Posted on 4/16/17 at 7:54 am to
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I hope that if we do, it isn't to FSU because I'm ready to beat those fricking bastards.


Unfortunately for UF, FSU will be very good.

By far the most talented team on our schedule and the best coached.
Posted by reel_gator8
Seminole,Fl
Member since May 2012
11060 posts
Posted on 4/16/17 at 8:56 am to
Box, they are coming to OUR house where a very good team will await them. They are going down and then the Mac era gets a boost. Just watch...it will happen barring mass injuries and maybe even then.

We had to play them last year the week after an extremely hard fought emotional game @ red stick and we had no gas in the tank. Have faith.
This post was edited on 4/16/17 at 8:58 am
Posted by UFMatt
Gator Nation - Everywhere
Member since Oct 2010
11418 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 8:28 am to
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Im predicting 11-1 with a loss to FSU.


I will not ever predict a loss to FSUcks. Never FSU Never.

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Anything below 9 wins barring catastrophic injury plague, and McElwain should be on the hotseat in 2018.


I agree. We should win 10+ games this year.

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The schedule is cakewalk this year compared to 2015 and 2016.


This schedule is just what we needed. LSU in Gainesville is icing on the cake.

Go Gators!!!
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
35566 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 11:41 am to
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I will not ever predict a loss to FSUcks. Never FSU Never.

better get used to it... francois is the truth.
Posted by atlgator
Jacksonville, Atlanta, Gainesville
Member since Aug 2014
5520 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 12:39 pm to
He's good but he doesn't have much proven to throw it to this year.

He's not the reason we lost against FSU last year.
Posted by reel_gator8
Seminole,Fl
Member since May 2012
11060 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 10:33 pm to
Finch thanks for your catchup and mustard review....will file it away for Nov. He's the truth? Really? Against Wake or Duke or Maryland maybe. He is going down and so is the girls school...sorry to hurt you.
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
35566 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 12:18 am to
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
52279 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 4:54 am to
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He's good but he doesn't have much proven to throw it to this year.

He's not the reason we lost against FSU last year.


Cook and Appleby are the biggest reasons that UF got blown out.

And Francois, like it or not, is better than any QB UF has till proven otherwise.

He was only a freshman last year. He's gonna improve.

FSU is by far the best team we will play next year and it's not close.

I wouldn't be shocked if they beat Alabama to start the season.
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