re: Does anyone believe in Mac?

We have 5 Mac recruited QBs and the offense is still shite.

We're #106 in total O. Behind powerhouse Idaho, Eastern Michigan, Boston College and Oregon state.

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So Del Rio and appleby were Not his guys ? It took him 3 years to get his QB and his offense still sucks ?

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It took him *two* years to get a 5* quarterback who actually looks the part, it's taken us 9 years to find a quarterback. This isn't something new that came around to Florida, we haven't had a quarterback since Tebow, why the frick are you pretending like this is a McElwain problem? Who the frick would want to play for Florida when our offense has had five years of destructive implosion from the last two HCs before him (Meyer basically giving up, Muschamp being a horrible coach).

No, Del Rio was not his guy. Del Rio spent more time at other schools than he has at Florida.

Appleby spent his last year of five at Florida.

Zaire is as well. None of these guys are McElwain's ''guys'', they're guys he practically borrowed from other coaches.

Franks is bad because he's a freshman missing every single playmaker he has. No one is going to come in a Freshman after losing your top four offensive players and look amazing. Most other freshmen quarterbacks look decent because they still have playmakers all around them that can actively attack defenses.

Franks is in his fifth/sixth game (he's been benched) and hasn't looked the part. It's normal. Look at fricking Florida State -- you're going to tell me Jimbo Fisher can't coach up a quarterback, either, because his QB is looking pretty mediocre?

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So do you actually believe in Mac or just like the idea of us losing and him destroying our program?

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The guy who can keep games close without an upperclass defense or offense against teams like Texas A&M playing at full strength, or LSU at full strength is not destroying our program.

What's destroying our program are pieces of shite on message boards shitting on it with no real business to do so. McElwain for the past three years has done everything he could with no quarterback -- and with the same defenses as Muschamp, won the East back to back times wiht back to back ten win seasons.

Like I say in every fricking post:

The last time we were missing this many players, we lost to an FCS who put up 426 yards against a supposed ''defensive guru''.

McElwain will be just fine once he gets himself a quarterback, isn't weighed down by suspensions and doesn't have a slew of injuries.

I prefer losing to Texas A&M by 2 than Georgia Southern by 6.

Thats a lie. 2 games

NM St
Treon - 14/19 for 215 w/2 tds
Will - 16/18 for 166 w 2tds

East Carolina
Will - 10/16 151 2tds 1 pick
Treon - 5/8 54 yards

Grier started KY next week as lone QB. Was pretty meh tbh. He actually only had 1.5 good games as the starter.

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Two years? This is his fourth recruiting cycle.

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How? He hasn't even been here for three. His third year will be December of this year. He had a 1/12 of a recruiting cycle his first year (doesn't count) (2014, 2015 is his real first year), he had the year of 2015, the year of 2016 and he is in the middle of his third year.

He's had 2.5/2.8 with this being his second complete cycle. 2015 doesn't count, 2016 was last year (this is one) and 2017 is his third year on campus when he COMPLETES the year, which means this is his second year of recruiting only his players.

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Because he is not a good spotter of talent, and has no clue how to develop a legit Qb.

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1. I hope youre joking. Our 3s that you guys bitch about are some of our best players

2. Hasnt had a legit QB until now, and hes a few games into his first season. Playing real comp with zero cupcakes

And it's weird because every single detractor uses the same math. Like some kind of anti-McElwain cult.

I mean, fourth? Might as well say sixth.

Why do you get so up set when even you don't believe in Mac ? You ignore the question about believing in him and what you think he needs to do next year . Deep down you know that we are right .

Who is the 5 star QB that Mac got that looks the part? Franks was in his second class but didn't start till Macs third season and you want Franks to be benched . QB has been a problem since Tebow left and cost Muschamp his job and will likely cost Mac his . We have had talented QBs but none of the coaches since Meyer have been able to get them to be good here.

Muschamp was s horrible coach ? Macs offense doesn't look any better . Appleby , DelRio and Zaire are Macs guys . Mac and his staff brought them here . Now your sticking up for Agra is after wanting him benched for Zaire? lol

Mac is in charge of the team. No offense not use posters . It's not our fault he cant get the offense to even be average. Jimbo can recruit so it's easier for him to have a good offense. If you can't recruit or coach up your team then your going to be fired .

Mac and his staff have recruited 5+ QBs including highly rated QBs like Franks and Corral yet he can't field a offense . If Mac had better control of his players and could recruit talented guys that are not thugs then maybe he wouldn't have so many players suspended. When is the last time we had 9 players suspended for over half the season? Callaway has been in trouble multiple times and I believe that Scarlett has too.

We were 9-4 and 10-4 the last 2 seasons . Your bragging about us winning a little over two thirds of our games ? And now we look like we could be going backwards.

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Why do you get so up set when even you don't believe in Mac ?

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Lie one: I do believe in Mac. I like what I see, even if the losses hurt.

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You ignore the question about believing in him and what you think he needs to do next year . Deep down you know that we are right .

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Lie two: I defend McElwain against you guys almost like it's my second job (my knees are hurt, so I'm limited to my normal day-job of self-defense :((( ).

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Who is the 5 star QB that Mac got that looks the part?

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Matt Corral is a true 5*, and this weird thing where people are trying to downgrade him is kind of sad. Especially now that he's emerged as a Dual-Threat.

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Franks was in his second class but didn't start till Macs third season and you want Franks to be benched .

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Lie 3: Unless having the latter end of a class makes it ''your class'', you're lying. 1/12th of recruiting for a class does not make it your class -- this is just poorly thought out semantics.

Franks is from his first ''class'', the one from last year in which he sat out.

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We have had talented QBs but none of the coaches since Meyer have been able to get them to be good here.

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Debatable. The only truly talented quarterback who was here got hit for PEDs, the only quarterback behind him was a WR playing as a quarterback. After that it's just a shite ton of transfers to try and stop the bleeding and not play true freshmen.

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Muschamp was s horrible coach ?

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Undeniable that he was.

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Macs offense doesn't look any better .

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It looks better at every position other than quarterback.

Receivers are lightyears ahead of their predecesors. Running backs look much better coached at reading and moving to lanes and the linemen have given Franks a ton of time -- a lot more time than any offense Muschamp trotted out in spite Franks putting himself in trouble.

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Appleby , DelRio and Zaire are Macs guys .

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Purdue, Oregon State and Notre Dame are not ''Florida.'' They are transfers, meaning that they spent the majority of their time in other offenses with other coaches doing other things. Del Rio, who actually has time in the system managed the game well.

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Jimbo can recruit so it's easier for him to have a good offense.

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Can he? He's scoring 5.5 less points a game than McElwain has.

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Mac and his staff have recruited 5+ QBs

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His only QB to see the field was Franks, the rest are either on RS or recovering from surgery. The rest are transfers. Franks is a work in progress, always has been and will continue to be as predicted.

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Corral yet he can't field a offense .

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They're doing better than Jimbo, and Corral hasn't played yet. If Corral comes on campus next year, he will start and he will beat out Franks. Mark my words.

That Jacob Eason hasn't looked better than Fromm isn't an indictment on the Georgia coaching, it's just a matter that he's ready before Eason is.

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If Mac had better control of his players and could recruit talented guys that are not thugs

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Spurious language to be sure -- those are adults making adult situations. McElwain really can't do anything to stop kids from doing stupid things, much like most parents can't when they're 18 - 22.

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When is the last time we had 9 players suspended for over half the season? Callaway has been in trouble multiple times and I believe that Scarlett has too.

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Definitely something new, but Meyer had like 22 players get arrested in one year or some bizarre stat. I don't blame Meyer, either.

Or any other coach. I don't believe in the ''culture'' side of it, like it's a Florida culture or something along those lines.

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What's destroying our program are pieces of shite on message boards shitting on it with no real business to do so.

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This has to be the most stupid thing I've ever heard on this board. Do you really believe that message boards are the reason UF's offense has been in the shitter the last decade?