Dantheman504

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Outside of that, in order…

1. OLB/Edge
2. WR
3. Guard
4. DL
5. ILB (Stutsman is unproven, Werner isn’t the future and Demario is getting older.)

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I'd add
4. TE
7. CB

I'd prefer to spend the money on someone like Alija Vera-Tucker at OG instead of draft. Our early rd picks need to be Edge, WR, DL, TE. Draft CB/ LB and maybe trade for one of the 2.

If Demario stays another year then we can hold off on LB until next draft honestly. At that point you hope that LB will be the biggest hole.

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our standard healthy lineup
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Zion

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Yes understood. Now imagine constantly trashing our best players for not being good enough but actually being retarded enough to think that the 10th best player/ end of the bench on a team of under achieving players will ever make any difference or matter in the big picture.

"Zion isn't good enough"
"Poole is Eric Gordon"
"Trade Murray he doesn't have a leg"
"We wasted assets on Queen"

But but there's a solution! We know how to get to the promised land of success! Just build the team around Jose Alvarado and 6th man Herb Jones!

A guy that doesn't touch the floor on a contending team and a guy who is best off the bench on a contending team that's where we draw the line! That's what we will defend with our life!

Fears/ Queen/ Trey/ Murray/ Bey/ Karlo are the only players that should be untouchable at the deadline if we are a serious franchise. Big if.

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Genius Dumars took on an extra year of Poole

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If CJ walked at the end of the year then we lose 30mil because we are already over the salary cap. Having Poole means that we can take in an extra 30mil in a trade. Not to mention his value will still be higher than CJ's even if its 2nds.

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I'd much rather have a top 3 pick than 6th.

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We can really frick up the draft pick with wins vs the 3 win Falcons and Dolphins. Its hard to hope that we lose but also that Shough balls out while doing it.

Saint play: Jets/ Dolphins/ Titans

Browns play: Titans/ Raiders

Jets play: Dolphins/ Saints

Raiders play: Browns/ Giants

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Hard to take you seriously if you think we would get Kuminga AND a 1st for just giving up Herb.

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Kuminga and GSW could not agree to a long term deal. He signed a 2 year deal and they have been openly looking to move him. Its not crazy if they like Herb that much and don't see eye to eye with Kuminga. It would be at worst Kuminga/ Herb straight up.

They signed him so he wouldn't walk for nothing and so they could make other moves in trades if needed.

I have no clue how that value plays out whether its Kuminga + 1st for Herb or Herb + 1st for Kuminga.

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Something like Tari Eason for Jose

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Would be awesome but I doubt it. I'd expect it to be more like ORL for 2-3 2nds type trade. Would love to get Anthony Black somehow.

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Itd be better if either would shoot 3s

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I think Queen can and will. He just needs to develop more and we need to implement schemes for him on offense.

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Find me one respected NBA media type that praised Dumars and the trade.

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Find me one that wants us to succeed and wants Zion to stay here.

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Gayle is still a horrendous owner.

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We get it.

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which really looks worse?

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Thank you for this demonstration.

Both of Poole/ Murray will be up for extension's soon. We will most likely need to pick 1 or trade both. I'd rather keep Murray and trade Poole. If we trade Z then we possibly trade both. You have to keep Murray until atleast next years mid season trade deadline to recoup value. DJ comes off the bench this year unless he looks that much better than Fears/ Poole. He should be that much better while healthy so we will see. But 20min off the bench this season until later in the year.

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But this thread is ridiculous. This start in no way proves that it was a good trade, it's yet to be seen seeing as we are only 8 effing games into the season, 

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To be fair, its just as ridiculous to say its a bad trade. I think that's the main point. Both sides can be ridiculous but one is ridiculously pessimistic and one is ridiculously optimistic so which really looks worse?

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effing

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This is a family board, no need for this kind of language.

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And seeing as you pumped up Zion, Trey, and Poole as all three possibly making the all star game and the Lakers not being as good as us and us almost being as good as Denver all the while calling everyone who didn't agree with you a fricking retard all offseason I'll go ahead and not ever give two shits about any thing you say from here on out.

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That's just rude bro. And also not the reason I called anyone a retard. Plenty of reasons, but that's not one of them..

Any 1 of Z/ Poole/ Trey did have a chance and maybe still has a chance to be an all star. But yes its been underwhelming and disappointing so far. That's why I'm cool with juet moving Z. shite I'm kinda down to rebuild with Fears/ Queen (hint the Kon trade).

I still think we are a better built team than the Lakers. My comments about Denver were before they traded for Cam J who I have been wanting for 2 years. So yes Denver is for sure better.