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I do think you will see Harris featured more as a running compliment to Fournette today. LSU really has only sprinkled in some run plays this year for Harris, but he is really underrated as a run threat, not sure if opposing fans realize how strong of a runner Harris actually is.

re: Bama's run defense overrated

Posted by MattLSU on 11/6/15 at 8:55 pm
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Why do people no understand: all rushing attempts are not created equal. Tennessee is a different running team than LSU. They use various run schemes out of multiple formations. LSU lines up in the I and runs right at defenses. Yes they do utilize small amounts of zone reads and other run schemes but by and large they will attack from the I between the tackles. I just don't see this matchup favoring LSU. Bama has an extremely heavy defense that excels at plugging up inside runs. Hope I'm wrong but I don't see this ending well


This is 100% wrong. First of all LSU has a much more diversified offense than UT. UT runs out of the spread, they really do not have a lot of variance in their run schemes.

LSU on the other hand shows spread and I formation, they several different styles of run plays, even out of the I. I formation does not mean they just run between the tackles. Watch the Auburn game and see LSU pulling both guards on toss sweeps, that is an outside run with a convoy escorting Fournette to the edge. LSU shows a lot of different looks on offense, they are one of the more diverse attacks in the SEC, mixing elements from various systems...they have several good ways to attack Bama, I think you are stuck in 2014.

re: Bama's run defense overrated

Posted by MattLSU on 11/6/15 at 4:51 pm
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What's that have to do with Alabama's run defense being overrated?



Nothing actually.
Dupre came to play last year, should have had 2 tds. He is a gamer.

re: Bama's run defense overrated

Posted by MattLSU on 11/6/15 at 4:39 pm
The thing is...Bama has not played a run game anywhere comparable to LSU...not even close. LSU has faced a defense at least comparable to Bama in Florida, and they ran it down Floridas throats despite 8 man fronts the whole game. Saban in his arrogance will play 2 safeties back on run defense..and try to stop LF7 with 7 in the box and Fournette is going to go off.
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117 yards on 42 carries is rushing at will?

ETA. I'm a retard, those are Bama's stats. UT still only ran for 132 yards


Their backs(not Dobbs) did average 5 yards a carry.
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but I just think LSU can be made one dimensional if Fournette gets pinned in.


Every team can be made to be one dimensional if you shut down one of the two things they can do.

That applies to any team in every game, including Alabama, if LSU pins in Henry. I've at least watched another team(Arkansas) pin in Henry this year, LSU's front 7 is every bit as good as what Arkansas brought to the table. I've yet to see a team come close to stopping Fournette, and that is with consistent 8 man fronts and cheating defensive backs, a 7 man front will be something Fournette hasn't seen since last year. The best way to stop Fournette is to load the box and dare LSU to pass so they don't hand it to him...Bama is not going to do that though, they are going to invite LSU to run the ball.
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I realize LF is good, but Alabama is the last team in the country you want to try that against without going high tempo. Especially on the road.


Here is the thing, if Saban plays with 7 in the box, and keeps his safeties back, which is what he'll do unless it's 3rd down and blitz time, then LSU is absolutely going to pound it against a 7 man front. That's what is gonna happen. Saban isn't gonna change what he does for Fournette and LSU, and LSU isn't gonna change what they do just because it is Bama. I honestly think Bama won't be able to stop Fournette and company playing 2 safeties back, I think LSU will force Saban's hand. Will be interesting.

re: Come out throwing

Posted by MattLSU on 11/6/15 at 11:12 am
They can't be shy about throwing it, so I have no problem with it, and first down will be one of the better downs for them to do it and throw when they want to off play action instead of waiting till obvious passing situations when Saban will dial up his blitzes. Play action on first down to Colin Jeter behind the linebackers/in front of the safeties should be an easy throw and catch all day.
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60 yrs on 22 carries. Bama is built to stop lf7


Yeah, just like they were built to stop Ezekial Elliot.

When Jalen Hurd makes your linebackers look slow getting to the edge, then your defense is not built to stop Fournette.
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Wipe your chin. Alabama has seen at least two defensive lines this year on par with or better than lsu, 3 if you count the ones in practice everyday. We're 1-1 in those games. Our offensive line isn't vintage Bama, but the lsu defensive line isn't vintage lsu. Both are talented, neither are exceptional.


I always assume Bama has a good line, it's nearly a foregone conclusion. The complaints about the Bama line seem very similar to the complaints about LSU's secondary. The talent is undeniably there, but they seem to be under performing based on the high internal standards of the particular unit at each school.
For this game, I wouldn't be surprised to see Fournette's carries not be capped. This could be his highest number of touches he's ever had...so yeah, I think he does go over 150.
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Vols were able to run wide and off tackle..

Not really. One run that I can recall.


You aren't recalling very well then. I recorded two Bama games, UT and Georgia. Was just watching UT last night. UT definitely did well on the edges, in fact Hurd on more than one occasion just outran your linebackers to the corner and got good yardage(Hurd looks like a very nice player btw). Hurd's a real nice back, and faster than I thought..but still..Fournette will eat up those yards even faster. I think a big part of it was Bama was paying that extra half second of attention to Dobbs on the read option, and that won't be the case with Harris, so it might be Harris that has the big opportunities. That read option series attacking the edges looks like a perfect match for Bama. It will be interesting to see how much of that read option look LSU uses vs Bama, LSU has it, but they run a lot of other stuff..it's not as though it's their base offense.

I had thought about Guice being used in this game for awhile now, I do think we'll need him to help. I'd love to see Guice used as the player on the jet sweep just because outside of Fournette he has the best combination of speed/running ability on the team and it would really force Bama to think about backside contain. They leave Guice open on a jet sweep and he'd do a lot of damage. They have run Guice as the jet sweep option at least once this year so it's possible they could use him in that capacity. Getting Guice and LF7 on the field together makes assignment football 10x tougher.

I also think Braden Harris will get more opportunities to make Bama pay with his legs in this game as well.

re: Honest question on bama's d gameplan

Posted by MattLSU on 11/2/15 at 3:02 pm
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Simple reminder, Chubb ran for 150 against Bama. How'd that work out?

LF will get his, Bama will force Harris to beat them. If he can make plays with his feet and hit the deep ball then it may be a long day for the Tide.


Chubb had two good runs during the game, outside of those two runs, Sony Michel actually ran more consistently between the two. However, the larger reality is that Georgia's team as a whole was clearly overrated, so comparing them to LSU exclusively is an exercise in futility. If you want to make the argument that Chubb was the be all end all, the answer is that a RB without a line will not do well versus Bama, and if their oline was half of what it was advertised to be then Georgia wouldn't be struggling so mightily without Chubb. Comparing Georgia to LSU at this point is pointless really, there are more differences than similarities.

re: Honest question on bama's d gameplan

Posted by MattLSU on 11/2/15 at 1:24 pm
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Saban believes in stopping the run with 7, and will virtually never "stack" the box, i.e. have 8 in the box. We'll be in base if you are in 2-wide or less. If you go three wide or more regularly, we'll be in Nickel. I doubt we'll see a ton of Dime unless it's 3rd and forever.

My guess is you'll see a similar gameplan as to what we brought against Georgia. Remember, stopping Fournette doesn't mean "stopping Fournette", it means controlling the LOS with our Front 7. Personally, I don't think Fournete will have much room between the tackles, but getting to the edge can be done - and I expect LSU to try it frequently.

We'll rush 4 mostly early, but will likely bring more heat as the game goes on, and probably end up bringing 5 on most plays in the 4th. We'll play man/combo press coverage all day, and expect db's to play on islands with rotating safety help.

If you sub, we'll sub. And we'll sub even when you don't. We'll be fresh in the 4th on the Dline, unlike most schools.

In short, we'll endeavor to stop the run first and force LSU to throw, and throw into tight windows. Harris will have to be very accurate with the ball. Should be a great matchup.


This is the most accurate post. Saban doesn't "stack the box". He just doesn't, and part of that is because that front 7 he employs is just good enough to not require it, and that is a huge advantage.

I just think Bama is going to have trouble with this against LSU. Yes, I realize the success that Bama had against Chubb. I fully agree that when the game was on the line, they flat out dominated Georgia's running game. That last run by Chubb to inflate his stats was cosmetic. I just think LSU is a brings a different caliber of attack, with a quarterback that can at least present a running/mobility threat. I think as good as Bama looked versus Georgia, they also showed some cracks versus Tennessee. Saban's defense typically destroys pocket passers. I honestly believe that is why LSU has seemed hell bent on having a mobile quarterback under Miles. Harris is not on the level of Dobbs as a running threat, he absolutely can run. LSU has shown that a bit, but hasn't asked him to do to much of it because they have not needed it, which is smart because you're risking the health of your starter when you ask him to take on that load. I really think Harris is the x factor in this game for LSU and I won't be suprised at all if the gameplan is to use him much more as a runner in this game. I look at LSU as kind of the reverse of UT, with UT Bama was very much focused on Dobbs as a runner, and I think their focus on Hurd as secondary. It will be reversed in this game, and I think Harris will have some big opportunities to make plays with his legs, he's very underrated as a run threat, and might be the best run threat at QB that miles has ever had at LSU. Again, they haven't shown it too much, but he absolutely has that ability. Georgia did not.

re: LSU-BAMA Weaknesses.

Posted by MattLSU on 11/1/15 at 10:09 pm
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Bama will have a safety in the box. It's inevitable and needed.
Perhaps but my guess is less times than not.


Bama is built to stop the run without cheating a safety up, which is a huge advantage if you can do it...so I think they actually will not put 8 in the box vs LF7 initially. I do think Fournette will force them to start cheating that extra body up though.

re: LSU-BAMA Weaknesses.

Posted by MattLSU on 11/1/15 at 9:30 pm
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I posted over 4 years ago that LSUs passing was a problem because we have the players and schemes to shut down the run. You guys didn't cross the 50 yard line in the NC game. The only difference is its four years later. LSUs offensive numbers are almost exactly the same.


I am not sure you could be more wrong if you tried. There is no logic in comparing the RB by committee group of 2011 to what Fournette is doing. This post was assinine.

re: LSU-BAMA Weaknesses.

Posted by MattLSU on 11/1/15 at 6:58 pm
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Well Ole Miss is 1st in passing but 7th in rushing in the conference. I guess the dominant passing game didn't hurt our rushing game much...???


And how efficient has that offense been? Being ranked 1st vs 7th in yards doesnt tell you much. LSU is still second in in SEC in ypg and ppg, but 13th nationally in turnover differential. Ole Miss doesnt rank top 50 in that category and it cost them versus Memphis.
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Which of LSU's starters on Defense would start at bama?


Well they play two different systems. I would put Tolliver and White up with their corners for sure. They'd both be capable of starting. Adams is certainly that caliber. Beckwith, Godchaux. LSU recruits completely different type of front 7 players than Bama, so your looking at a lot of bad fits for their scheme.