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Machiavellian
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re: Grade the Muschamp Hire
Posted by Machiavellian on 12/12/10 at 12:37 am
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re: Muschamp to UF (links added)
Posted by Machiavellian on 12/12/10 at 12:34 am
hire isn't all that far-fetched
Urban was begged back last yr by Foley. This yr was last yr and gave them time to plan. Muschamp gives them a hot prospect, young coach, players coach, recruiter, etc. Hell, if Miles went to Michigan this would be the first guy LSU called
Muschamp also is access...
re: Recruiting Louisiana: SABAN >>>>> Les Miles
Posted by Machiavellian on 12/12/10 at 12:28 am
[quote]I guess you give no credit to Miles for landing Kadron Boone from OOS[/quote]
beat out Texas Tech for him
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re: Recruiting Louisiana: SABAN >>>>> Les Miles
Posted by Machiavellian on 12/11/10 at 4:49 pm
[quote]Machiavellian is making terrible arguments, contradicting himself, passing off his opinion as fact, and talking down the OOS players we've signed, but other than that, nothing is really going on here.[/quote]
that's your opinion :geauxtigers:...
re: Recruiting Louisiana: SABAN >>>>> Les Miles
Posted by Machiavellian on 12/11/10 at 4:48 pm
Do I think Reed is a rare find? no
Was he widely identified as one of the top prospects in Louisiana last year? yes
Same with Greg this year? yes...
re: Recruiting Louisiana: SABAN >>>>> Les Miles
Posted by Machiavellian on 12/11/10 at 4:30 pm
[quote]No one saw Montgomery and Ferguson coming.[/quote]
niether had logical in-state powers really
Both were great gets, no question. But it's not like we went into Miami and snagged a big-time player like we did with PP7
Trooper came right into the heart of LSU country and took two of ou...
re: Recruiting Louisiana: SABAN >>>>> Les Miles
Posted by Machiavellian on 12/11/10 at 4:27 pm
[quote]Like i said....many recruits have been mentioned....you choose to dismiss them. [/quote]
then I guess we have a difference of opinion, which is fine. Again, what I consider a hard recruiting win is all laid out in this thread. I would like to see more of them. That's all
:geauxtigers:...
re: Thanks Greg Robinson...
Posted by Machiavellian on 12/11/10 at 4:25 pm
[quote]Agreed, but it's never an excuse to act like a jackass. [/quote]
agree
but accountability is what it is. Les and staff get paid a lot of money, and when you have big advantages over two Thibodeaux kids and lose them both back-to-back years people are going to hold you accountable. Just ...
re: Thanks Greg Robinson...
Posted by Machiavellian on 12/11/10 at 4:12 pm
hard in sport to accept losses when you're in position to have the advantages to win
just the way it is with anything..whether it's a big-time recruit or a game against Ole Miss when you fail to manage the clock
so when it happens, you get called out for it 100% of the time :)...
re: Recruiting Louisiana: SABAN >>>>> Les Miles
Posted by Machiavellian on 12/11/10 at 3:59 pm
[quote]Wasn't TT the #1 receiver in the country?[/quote]
again, doesn't apply when the in-state power doesn't go after the prospect. Mack Brown/Texas didn't want Toliver who was from Hempstead, TEXAS
thus he had to go somewhere. He was legacy at LSU so he chose LSU, which was also closer in pr...
re: Recruiting Louisiana: SABAN >>>>> Les Miles
Posted by Machiavellian on 12/11/10 at 2:27 pm
[quote]So basically we lose marquee in-state players to schools and coaches that have been tied to recruiting and improper benefit scandals. I can live with that.[/quote]
fair enough.
If we lost McKnight, Jackson and Reed and Robinson to $$$ from Carroll, Kiffin and Auburn then I can live with...
re: Recruiting Louisiana: SABAN >>>>> Les Miles
Posted by Machiavellian on 12/11/10 at 2:24 pm
[quote]I'd much rather our coaches find productive guys from anywhere such as Kelvin Sheppard [/quote]
for every one Sheppard, there is 8 kids like JT Lott, Cordian Hagans, Ernest McCoy, Steven Singleton, etc....
re: Recruiting Louisiana: SABAN >>>>> Les Miles
Posted by Machiavellian on 12/11/10 at 2:19 pm
[quote]Based on your logic if the #1 player in it's own state isn't sought out by the home school, then he isn't a marquee recruit.[/quote]
no, my point was it wasn't a difficult battle for Les because the kid was legacy and the in-state power didn't put up a battle...
re: Recruiting Louisiana: SABAN >>>>> Les Miles
Posted by Machiavellian on 12/11/10 at 2:18 pm
[quote]rovon Reed wasn't a marquee prospect.[/quote]
arguably the highest-rated Louisiana kid in 2009 and LSU wanted him, thus he was a marquee in-state loss...
re: Recruiting Louisiana: SABAN >>>>> Les Miles
Posted by Machiavellian on 12/11/10 at 2:17 pm
[quote]So Barksdale and Patrick Peterson = 2
Reed and Robinson = 2 [/quote]
Janzen Jackson, Joe McKnight, etc....
re: Recruiting Louisiana: SABAN >>>>> Les Miles
Posted by Machiavellian on 12/11/10 at 2:15 pm
[quote]Just add Saban into the header and watch the scramble ensue.[/quote]
I could care less about Saban
my point has everything to do with Miles and staff...
re: Recruiting Louisiana: SABAN >>>>> Les Miles
Posted by Machiavellian on 12/11/10 at 2:14 pm
[quote]It's not hard to accept your opinion, people have terrible opinions all the time. But you are stating your opinion as if it is fact, and your opinion is actually illogical and ill informed.[/quote]
that's your opinion :)...
re: Recruiting Louisiana: SABAN >>>>> Les Miles
Posted by Machiavellian on 12/11/10 at 2:13 pm
[quote]It's because your opinion on what makes a player marquee involves having an in-state school pursue him[/quote]
yes. they do have the most information on the kid
just like Frank Alexander and some other high rated kids from Louisiana. I don't mind them going elsewhere because we didn't w...
re: Recruiting Louisiana: SABAN >>>>> Les Miles
Posted by Machiavellian on 12/11/10 at 2:10 pm
[quote]Joseph Barksdale
4 star #67 player on Rivals
5 star on Scout
All SEC player
From MICHIGAN
But he's not a marquee recruit[/quote]
ok, I'll give you Barsdale...sure. Doesn't change my position...
re: Recruiting Louisiana: SABAN >>>>> Les Miles
Posted by Machiavellian on 12/11/10 at 2:07 pm
[quote]And we have -- yet you refuse to recognize that fact. You dismissed Terrance Tolliver as a legacy and said that he was 'passed up' when he was top-15 overall in the nation and a 5*[/quote]
Mack Brown didn't go after him. Texas Longhorns are the in-state power where Toliver came from. It's ...
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