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You guys should watch the LPSC B&E tomorrow. There is a group looking to reopen the Meta deal with Entergy because apparently Meta sold 80% of the rights to the data center after the commission approved it. Basically, Meta can jump ship after 4 years and leave the data center expenses, including the Entergy contribution in aid. Sorry I don’t have a link but the article was in the Wall Street Journal.
I’ll come back to this thread when not on mobile but I wanted to drop this here in case some of you haven’t heard yet.
Amazon Data Center
Amazon Data Center
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Depreciation is actually taken over 30 years, not 15 years. Without PPA disclosures, it is difficult to determine capacity and energy recoveries through rates.
This is an important point. If META is giving Entergy 15 years worth of build and maintenance cost, once that is over, the useful life of the plants being build will be covered by consumers. Guess what happens as unit age? They become increasingly costly to maintain. This is an oversight by the PSC and other governing bodies.
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(From my understanding, the industrial load can supply power back to the grid)
This is true. For example, if an industrial builds a power plant on site to serve their 700 MW load, but they are projected to use 400MW that season (MISO accredits capacity per season), they can sale the additional 300MW of capacity and any energy injected back to the grid, if accredited by the RTO.
This can be true of data centers that build their own generation as well, and where this is headed.
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More nat gas (CCGT) plants will be built as these can respond to load fluctuations and provide voltage control
Yes, and battery storage is being located at Solar facilities that can peak shave as well.
Keep in mind, these large load requirements are scaled. If a data center is requiring 500MW of capacity, their first year may only be 100 (I know, I said only....), but will build out 500 by year 7-10. If they get there. This will help planning and grid stability.
re: 3 Data Centers to be built in north Louisiana?
Posted by SaintEB on 2/23/26 at 10:33 pm to UltimaParadox
There is alot to unpack in that Bloomberg article.
Firstly, they are focusing on LMP (Localized Marginal Pricing) which is just an energy charge, basically, mega watt hours being used. This is largely driven by natural gas and coal pricing (basically generation fuel costs).
Wholesale electricity comes in 3 parts, energy (mwh), capacity (the amount of generation needed in each area), and transmission (socialized cost of grid maintenance and upgrades). Energy and Capacity is paid by the offtaker and passed on to the customer. The only socialized cost is the transmission.
Capacity is the larger problem right now. Capacity charges have increased by a factor north of 60%. Data centers and large industrial projects are creating a demand issue. MISO South, today, is projected to be gigawatts short by 2031. This is why they created the ERAS program, to fast track generation project studies and approvals. They are sitting on a 7 year queue for generation interconnection studies. This demand is hitting fast, and it isn't just MISO.
Where Virginia has all of these data centers, is where the United States' two major internet hubs exist. This is why data centers are there. This MISO equivalent there is PJM, that areas regional transmission organization (RTO).
We are trying to learn lessons from them. Energy companies are pushing to have these large data center "hyperscalers" provide their own generation. This is a slow movement as the building of natural gas plants are long, drawn out processes and hyperscalers (META, AWS, Google...etc) want it now and can pay for it.
We can learn from early adopters and not make the same energy mistakes.
As for Louisiana, Entergy is building plants and doing transmission upgrades to accommodate the data centers. With the building of these plants and some small scale solar and storage projects, this will alleviate the capacity constraints that were being predicted. The capacity market is projected to level off by 2029/2030. Large increases in capacity costs that were seen as recent as this year are not expected to be seen like this again (in MISO South at least).
Firstly, they are focusing on LMP (Localized Marginal Pricing) which is just an energy charge, basically, mega watt hours being used. This is largely driven by natural gas and coal pricing (basically generation fuel costs).
Wholesale electricity comes in 3 parts, energy (mwh), capacity (the amount of generation needed in each area), and transmission (socialized cost of grid maintenance and upgrades). Energy and Capacity is paid by the offtaker and passed on to the customer. The only socialized cost is the transmission.
Capacity is the larger problem right now. Capacity charges have increased by a factor north of 60%. Data centers and large industrial projects are creating a demand issue. MISO South, today, is projected to be gigawatts short by 2031. This is why they created the ERAS program, to fast track generation project studies and approvals. They are sitting on a 7 year queue for generation interconnection studies. This demand is hitting fast, and it isn't just MISO.
Where Virginia has all of these data centers, is where the United States' two major internet hubs exist. This is why data centers are there. This MISO equivalent there is PJM, that areas regional transmission organization (RTO).
We are trying to learn lessons from them. Energy companies are pushing to have these large data center "hyperscalers" provide their own generation. This is a slow movement as the building of natural gas plants are long, drawn out processes and hyperscalers (META, AWS, Google...etc) want it now and can pay for it.
We can learn from early adopters and not make the same energy mistakes.
As for Louisiana, Entergy is building plants and doing transmission upgrades to accommodate the data centers. With the building of these plants and some small scale solar and storage projects, this will alleviate the capacity constraints that were being predicted. The capacity market is projected to level off by 2029/2030. Large increases in capacity costs that were seen as recent as this year are not expected to be seen like this again (in MISO South at least).
re: What would the US be like today had slavery never existed?
Posted by SaintEB on 2/23/26 at 11:40 am to Randall Savauge
Football and basketball would not be popular pro sports.
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Spoilers
The President and First Lady committing massive fraud, money laundering and murder for hire and the resolution is basically a footnote at the end of the episode showing the president pardoned himself and signed a media deal?? The frick kind of resolution is that
I get this and I do somewhat agree.
With that said, after bingeing it this weekend, I enjoyed the season. Its right there with what I like. Its quickly paced, the characters are likeable (even the antagonists), and I don't get too caught up in realism or plot holes. I just watch it for what it is and I am entertained by it.
re: Jimmy's Seafood has apparently had enough
Posted by SaintEB on 2/22/26 at 11:07 pm to Blue Jay Friend
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If you're ever in DC and decide to visit Baltimore's harbor, which is nice to walk around, I highly recommend having a meal there.
I'll be in DC at the end of April, staying at the Gaylord...Will look up Jimmy's when there.
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Sounds like the entire Mar-A-Lago property and golf course needs a security overhaul. How'd this nerd breach the perimeter?
I was in Boca Raton a couple of weeks ago. Went by Mar-A-Lago. When he isn't there, you can get right up to the perimeter. Parts of the wall look only about 4 or 5 feet tall, but the front perimeter isn't tall at all. There are security towers everywhere, but could be easily jumped. I did not imagine you would get too far. When he is there, security is much tighter and there are check points at the entrances to the island.
re: what have you done with AI today?
Posted by SaintEB on 2/21/26 at 12:48 pm to Prosecuted Collins
Took screen shots of my video game girlfriend and make her pics photorealistic. Merged with mine. Now she’s real. I need to find an AI that will make her nude now. But baby steps.
re: New Zealand parliament settles the "does size matter" question
Posted by SaintEB on 2/21/26 at 12:42 pm to Burt Reynolds
What’s a dick pill? Asking for myself, not a friend.
385 KWh at , what, 15 cents per, on the high side….so, $58 bucks savings. How much did it cost to make? I didn’t see it in the article.
re: External Hard Drive Costs Are Skyrocketing
Posted by SaintEB on 2/20/26 at 2:01 pm to FairhopeTider
If you absolutely need 4TB, just get one of these:
Newegg 4TB SSD
And one of these or similar:
Newegg SSD Enclosure
Will be faster than that BB one and half the price.
Newegg 4TB SSD
And one of these or similar:
Newegg SSD Enclosure
Will be faster than that BB one and half the price.
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Thats on me brother you definitely were part of the crew. I just threw out the first few that came to my head.
I was just messing with you smoke. Those, along with you, are the first guys I think about from back then too.
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Do you play Warzone?
Nah. I'm too old for that game. I can't kill these twitchy kids. I stopped playing Blops7 because I suck.
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Modern Warfare clan....
Croaka
Penn
Pappagiorgio
Black
Lewdawg
Rondozombie
Toula
Meezy
DonRandomnumbers
frick all these scrubs. My name should have been in there, at least instead of Pappagiorgio....
In all seriousness, played BlackOps 6 with Croacka about 2 times when it released and never saw him again.
Bringing back Jessica Jones. Bold. May as well tie in all the old Netflix stuff. I actually liked them.
"I hope you can walk, because I am not carrying you"
"I hope you can walk, because I am not carrying you"
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I love that we're trying to get back in the 2026 draft after Joe gave away 2 lottery picks in that draft for some bullshite return.
It can be done!!
I had this in my steam cart the other day but didn't pull the trigger. So now I am doing a 2nd cyberpunk playthough 2 years after my first. This will suck some time.
Just call the Movie/TV Board, We Hate Everything Even Thought It Has Not Come Out Yet Board......that may be too long, but still.
re: Even Fletcher has had enough
Posted by SaintEB on 1/20/26 at 11:43 am to geauxtigers87
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it's a mess by design. they want to move the team
This might be true and it sucks. I can't read anymore. I'm going watch some porn.
re: Ryan Hurst cast as Kratos in God of War Prime adaptation
Posted by SaintEB on 1/14/26 at 5:25 pm to finchmeister08
He'll need to work out. He looked a bit soft in The Abandons.
But overall, should be a good casting.
But overall, should be a good casting.
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