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yeah, and since 2000(LSU's most successful period in program history) you are ONLY 1 GAME OVER .500 against AR(5-4 on the Saban/Miles watch) So What??

Look, AR has been to 23 New Year's Day Bowls, that's a statement in and of itself. Being the 26th all-time winningest program in college,out of 119 ain't exactly bad.




re: Boise State vs SEC

Posted by razors on 9/4/09 at 12:36 pm
yeah, that same Arky that's played for the SEC title 3 times in 17 attempts, including twice against your team...

re: SEC Weather report

Posted by razors on 9/2/09 at 2:44 pm
people in Lexington,KY might disagree with you(avg. snowfall 15.7),avg. snowfall in Fayetteville is aroung 6-7 inches anually; by comparison avg. snowfall in Greenville,SC is approx.6 inches as well...guess those Clemson fans have to "bundle up" too..

re: Petrino can't wait for opener

Posted by razors on 9/2/09 at 11:01 am
Yes, South AR and North LA are joined at the hip...but I grew up in PB and my family is from Crossett, and I will be there Friday night, on my way up to LR Sat. for the game; and yes ,you do see some LSU signs ON CARS WITH LA LICENSE PLATES, but natives in South AR are huge Hog fans, and spending the first 30 years of my life in South AR, I can say no one feels "disconnected" from THE FLAGSHIP UNIVERSITY FOR THE STATE OF AR?!!!

BTW, when I moved to New Orleans in 2000, my first experience with LSU fans, was they just hoped to have a winning season...remember the seasons between '89-2001...It was called the Hallman/Dinardo years, go check how competetive you were in the SEC then, and get back to me..

Lastly, which former Razorback Coaches left for "greener" pastures??...Broyles?, he became AD, Holtz? fired for going 6-5, and wound up at Minnesota. Hatfield? Left in the middle of the night Jan. '90 for Clemson, after a Cotton Bowl loss to TN/and a meeting with Broyles afterward, in which he was told he would have to "let go some assistants.." by Broyles, so "sight unseen" he abruptly leaves..Jack Crowe? fired by Broyles in '92 after a loss to the Citadel, now he's at Jacsonville State...Danny Ford? fired at end of '97 season, after back to back losing seasons.
Houston Nutt? agreed to resign, for a $3mm buyout of his remaining contract, and Sexton gets him the Ole Miss gig.

So,who has left AR for the "better job" since 1958? The answer, no one..

On Fayetteville, I admit,I have been gone from there since '91 (have attended a few games since then), so I can see where the huge growth/development that the Walmart/Tyson's have brought to the area in the last 15-20years, may have "dilluted" some of the small town Southern charm, as well as brought in alot of "transplants" as well...but look at Atlanta, it's lost alot of it's "Southern" feel as well, due to it's economic boom; heck, New Orleans for that matter, has tons of "transplants" from the North,etc..so some of that "feel" gets dilluted by progress/development, but there's still "just enough" of it's traditional roots. I am sure Fayetteville still has plenty of it's roots and comfort zone to keep it's original identity hanging around..







re: Petrino can't wait for opener

Posted by razors on 9/1/09 at 3:57 pm
AR, as a state, fits very well in the SEC; sharing common borders with three other SEC states. If anyone were out of place in our league it would be KY?! They only border one neighboring SEC state(TN); however, they do share borders with MO, IL, IN, OH, WV..if anyone is "Midwest" it's KY.

As far as contending; we've managed to make it to 3 SEC title games in 17 tries, and with MEDIOCRE coaching.

As far as fanbase, when you are the only show in town, that helps alot. Sate population is around 3mm almost..Broyles referred to it as "...the Nebraska of the South.." when he took the job in'58, because there's no cross state rival to fight.

BTW, I lived in Mid -Missouri my freshman year of college, and "crawled" to Fayetteville at the end of that first year. I "clearly" knew I had crossed the Mason-Dixon line when I was there vs. MO..without question. Fayetteville, may be "guarding" the frontier gate to the South, but it's hardly the Midwest.




re: Congrats Hogs!!!

Posted by razors on 6/26/09 at 12:48 pm
well, a series that is that "tight" and explaining it away due to one team "overlooking" the other,etc. is akin to lightening striking the exact same place repeatedly...

The series is close because it's not only a rivalry, but the two teams square off against each other pretty evenly matched year in and year out. The talent gap is not that wide.

The SEC series with LSU (10-7) is much more competitive than our SWC series was with Texas, due in part to the population bases and demographics being closer between LA and AR.

re: Congrats Hogs!!!

Posted by razors on 6/26/09 at 12:30 pm
The thing that's so perplexing is LSU's head-to-head "struggles" in the series with AR. The past 11 meetings, LSU is just one game over .500 in this series(6-5). Which is just "shocking",especially during a period where LSU is seeing the most success in program history; I just don't get it.

I wonder why LSU seems to "overlook" the Hogs soo often?

re: Congrats Hogs!!!

Posted by razors on 6/26/09 at 11:49 am
"we OVERLOOKED YALL two seasons in a row.." and also in 2000 and 2002...

Actually, in your most successful decade in program history you have managed to "overlook" us 4 times in 9 meetings; under the "watchful eyes" of both Nick Saban and Les Miles.How is it that that you're only one game over .500(5-4) against AR on their watch?
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"FSU was first choice, but Bowden wanted no part of SEC"


Not quite like that; actually their initial interest was in both AR and FSU ,in order to expand to 12 teams, and split into Divisions. Truth be told, the SEC PTB had an AR commitment well before they began courting other schools.

Maybe I can find the actual printed story that was released, but essentially what happened was, Broyles had begun inquiring about membership in the SEC back around '89...he had a strong friendship with Doug Dickey the AD at TN back then. They were actually playing golf together one weekend, and during that , began "hatching" the plans for AR to leave the SWC for the SEC.

MetryTyger,

Again, when the series record reads: 6 to 5 in past 11 meetings, it's hard to refute that AR can't feel pretty confident they have a shot at winning each time the two schools play..

Bottom line, on Miles "watch" the series is "knotted" @ 2 wins a piece. Further more since '05(Miles) this game has been decided by a TOTAL of 10 POINTS in 4 meetings.
You talk about "everloving gifts"...in the '05 game in BR the AR kicker missed TWO CHIP SHOT FIELD GOALS; he only needed one in a 19-17 loss, so Hog fans know all about missed opportunities and "gifts" in this series...
Hey CAT,actually based on the 5-6 head to head series record between the two schools since '98, (LSU one game over .500) Hog Fans are pretty accustomed to winning this game. As far as success on the football field goes, any program that's been in 23 New Years Day Bowl games, and has played for their conference's title 3 times in 17 tries, has had some success.

You mention how "elite" LSU is; lets' discuss how "elite" they were between '89 and '01 shall we?

I find it kind of funny that during the MOST SUCCESSFUL DECADE IN THE HISTORY of LSU's football program, they can only manage to be one game over .500 vs. AR ( Saban/Miles combined record vs. AR 5-4)

Based on the records above, Hog fans don't really place LSU in that high of company, given the success in that past 11 meetings, we actually seee this game as "winnable" year in and year out..




re: Question for Arky fans...

Posted by razors on 5/11/09 at 12:53 pm
the series records vs. AL and LSU stand at 10-7(excluding the '93 AL forfeit); winning games against either of these division rivals are not upsets, based on the conference history. Saban/Miles have only combined for a 5-4 series record against AR this decade.

re: Houston Nutt vs. High Expectations

Posted by razors on 5/6/09 at 11:47 am
if CFB datawarehouse is accurate; it shows Ole Miss with 32 Bowl game appearances, of which 16 are New Year's Day Bowls, and with 6 SEC titles; the last being in 1963?

re: Houston Nutt vs. High Expectations

Posted by razors on 5/6/09 at 11:34 am
The question was, how many titles have you "played for", which indicates there is a game played in order to decide who is the conference champion.

re: Houston Nutt vs. High Expectations

Posted by razors on 5/6/09 at 11:28 am
I think Old Mrs can be more competitive going forward, but you don't need to attempt to downplay AR success both historically ,or since we joined the SEC in'92. To say ANY program that has been to 36 Bowl games ,including 23 New Year's Day games such as: 11 Cotton,5 Sugar,2 Orange,1 Fiesta, 2 Citrus and 2 Gator has no tradition is ridiculous.Also, we've played for the SEC football Title 3 times.How many New Year's Day Bowl games and SEC Titles has either Ole Miss or State played in/for?

re: Arkansas Football

Posted by razors on 1/22/09 at 3:14 pm
Skull, I see some nice " penalty, TD called back,etc." excuses from you on page 2 when addressing LSU losses each season from '98 forward.. you have alot of room to talk about me sounding like an Auburn fan...you're a trip dude..whatever makes you feel better though.

re: Arkansas Football

Posted by razors on 1/22/09 at 3:01 pm
yeah, and LSU has had 5 losing seasons since we joined in '92.

The other thing I was trying to point out is the series between them has "tightened" since AR joined the SEC. The total series LSU has a 62.9% winning percentage, however, since AR joined the SEC it has dropped to 58.8% in the last 17 meetings. It's been more competitive.

This topic started discussing thoughts on AR football, I was simply pointing out that the hogs have competed very well with their primary competition( AL,AU,LSU) within the Division.

ESPN just had them ranked #19 in the "most pretigious" college football programs all-time.

re: Arkansas Football

Posted by razors on 1/21/09 at 2:20 pm
yeah, I know all about luck, considering in the '05 game in BR, a 4-7 Hog team missed 2 chip shot field goal attempts, needing only one of them to secure a win in Miles first year, the final was 19-17. Or take that Holiday kick return back in '06, and hogs win that one... as I said earlier, the past 4 games, on Miles watch, have been decided by a total of 10 points, seems LSU has needed just as much luck as the Hogs lately.

At the end of the day, the numbers don't lie, they can't exert any opinion/subjectivity, the record books will simply reflect 6-5 since '98.

re: Arkansas Football

Posted by razors on 1/21/09 at 1:26 pm
thunderbird please explain the BIGTIME series record LSU "owns" over AR since we joined the same conference as LSU? 10-7 since '92 and 6-5 over the past 11 meetings? That's a big margin? interesting..

re: Arkansas Football

Posted by razors on 1/21/09 at 12:39 pm
so let me get this straight, since AR joined the SEC in'92 the series record between LSU and AR stands at 10-7 in favor of LSU, but since '98 the series goes 6-5, and under Miles/Saban it's 5-4 between them, heck under Miles the four games they have played have been decided by a TOTAL OF 10 POINTS?!! Seems to me since we joined the this conference we've done well against the Tiggers?? Let's look at Auburn: last 11 meetings AR 6 wins AU 5 wins; how about Bama? Tide 6 wins; Hogs 5...I think the Razorbacks have held their own in the Western Division; including 2 Title game appearances this decade.

You don't make 36 Bowl appearances, with 23 BEING NEW YEAR'S DAY Bowls, including: 11 Cotton, 5 Sugar, 2 Orange, 1 Fiesta, 2 Gator, 2 Citrus and have a "cellar dweller/ mediocre football program.

Hey Tiger Fans where was your team from '89-'01?

remember Hallman and Dinardeaux?