MrBarry

What i find really irritating about the sport is how it's officiated in general.

The last 2 minute report came out for eht Boston/Indy game and said that the Pacers should not have been shooting FT's to win the game, that Porzingis didn't foul Mathurin. ANd also said that Hield didn't foul Jaylen Brown the play before, a play that was originally called a foul and overturned.

Both plays are clear fouls to me.
Hield Foul on Brown

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The NBA's report deemed the decision to overturn the call on the floor correct, stating that Buddy Hield made "minimal contact" with Brown's head.

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minimal contact with the head? so b/c it was minimal contact it was ok? You can't touch someones head while they are shooting. period. just like you can't touch someones arm while they are shooting, no matter how minimal. It will 100% affect the shot.

The fact that it was overturned to not a foul, and then the L2M report confrims it wasn't a foul makes me feel like i'm taking crazy pills. I'm all for aggressive play and earning your bucket at the end of games, but that's a foul. It's a very weak foul, but it's a foul.

AND ON TOP OF THE FOUL, IT WAS A FRICKING TRAVEL!!!!!


Porzingis foul on Mathurin

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The report states that Porzingis was above the ball and legally contested the shot, "with some incidental arm contact occurring concurrent with the block." Officials reviewed whether the call was made before the clock expired, but the foul itself was not reviewable.

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incidental arm contact? well then it's a foul.
On top of the fact that he's in his face and doesn't provide him any room to land on his jump shot as he bumps his legs as well. It's a clear foul.

The NBA thinks niether of those plays are fouls.

I know they are wanting people to want to see this Echo girl, but the only reason the vast majority of people will give it a shot is b/c of Daredevil and Kingpin.

That being said, you'll get the viewers b/c of those two guys, and if you write a good story and create a good character in Echo, then you succeeded.

But i saw the trailer for it on tv the other day and it was that same terrible fight scene that was shot awfully, and it's going to be hard for me to spend my time watching something that put something that crappy in their trailer.

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Huh? JV with Carter as his backup is not something you would entertain?

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Sure, if we still had Larry, or a similar type backup 5 that can defend in a similar way Larry can.

That's great to have if we are playing the Nuggets.
Against every other team in the West, how are we supposed to defend the high pick? we are just going to play drop coverage the entire game? Are we going to switch onto Steph Curry and Harden and let them eat us alive?

The reason Larry works so well is b/c he can switch onto other guys and still defend well enough, and also b/c he's able to hedge the pick a bit and recover to his man quicker.
JV and Carter aren't capable of playing any other coverage other than drop coverage, and neither one of them are Rudy Gobert or Walker Kessler.

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Read an article by Shamit I think that suggested Carter,

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Is he really an upgrade over JV?

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Carter’s issues have never been on the offensive end of the floor. But, he is at the forefront of one of Orlando’s biggest deficiencies which is protecting the rim and contesting shots around the basket.

Wendell Carter is already a good offensive center. He is a double-double machine with a sneaky three-pointer. But, his defense keeps him from becoming great. If it gets improved, it will not only help himself but also the Orlando Magic.
As a team, the Magic ranked 15th in team defense as they were in the middle of the road in the majority of stat categories. Orlando ranked sixth in the league giving up 47.6 points in the paint per game. Teams found it difficult to get to the basket against them.
But when they did, they were able to score. According to data from Second Spectrum, the Magic gave up 68.4 percent shooting at the rim, the fourth-worst mark in the league.

Carter despite some solid defensive statistics, struggled in this area too. The centers on the team in general need to become more of an anchor with this issue and Carter’s defense is a start that will not only benefit him but also his team.

Carter did get a good portion of blocks amongst the Magic players (he had 21.2 percent of all of Orlando’s blocks). Keep in mind, that this was also on a team that was average in the block department with blocks per game (15th overall in the league).

The spot on defense where Carter seemingly is exposed is the points in the paint he allows. In each game during the 2023 season, he gave up an average of 29.6 points in the paint to opponents per game. This is the highest mark he has given up in a season so far in his NBA career.

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I'm not even going to entertain the idea of Wendell Carter Jr and JV playing together, or the two of them being our only guys on the roster that can play the 5.

What an awesome rant.

I don’t think either team wants picks from us.
They’d probably be more interested in us getting a better player for them using Hawkins and the two firsts.

And we can send 24 protected 1st with Kira to the Nets for Sharpe, and get back their 2nd this year and 2 more future 2nds.
And a straight up Kira for Sharpe salary wise puts us around $500k under the tax. Add EJ to it and sign Matt Ryan.

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Getting Williams or Kessler would be fantastic since they can act as a rotation piece now and core player in the future, but I don't believe they are attainable without a crazy overpay.

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what do you deem an overpay?
Hawkins, 24 lottery protected 1st, and the worst of the Lakers/Pels 25 1st?
I would say that's an overpay, but it's probably what it takes.



I'm interested in finding a defensive center who will make a big impact to the team.

let's look at NetRtg for centers this year that get more than 15mpg
Embiid 13.0
Porzingis 12.5
Jokic 12.3
Chet 9.2
Zubac 9.2
Gobert 9.0
Duop Reath 9.0 (impressive considering he is the only player on the Blazers with a + Net Rating, and he's on a two way, and he's shooting 37% from 3 taking 3.7 a game)
Horford 8.5
Hartenstein 8.2
Day'Ron Sharpe 7.7
Goga 7.3
Nurkik 7.1
Myles Turner 6.9
Lively 6.3
KAT 6.2
JV 6.0
Mitchell Robinson 2.9
Jarrett Allen 2.6
Kessler 1.6
Nance 0.2
Bam -.3
Sabonis -1.0
Poeltl -1.0
Mark Williams -1.2
Olynyk -2.6
Capela -2.8
Wendell Carter Jr. -3.0
JJJ -5.0
Claxton -6.5
Gafford -9.0

The outlier to me here is Bam and Sabonis. We know he's good, and his team is good. Net Rating is going to be heavily influenced by wins and losses, and margin of victory.

What tells a better story is on/off net rating differential. + means they are that much better with that player on the court, - means they are that much worse with them on the court.
Embiid +9.7
Porzingis +4.1
Jokic +21.0
Chet +3.1
Zubac +9.1
Gobert +10.0
Duop Reath +20.5
Horford -3.6
Hartenstein +10.2
Day'Ron Sharpe +13.5
Goga +8.3
Nurkik +13.6
Myles Turner +9.3
Lively +7.1
KAT +1.7
JV +3.0
Mitchell Robinson -0.5
Jarrett Allen +0.6
Kessler +8.1
Nance -5.3
Bam -5.6
Sabonis -3.2
Poeltl +0.6
Mark Williams +13.2
Olynyk +0.9
Capela -2.8
Wendell Carter Jr. -3.0
JJJ +1.4
Claxton -8.9
Gafford +2.3

What's even more suprising here is Bam and Sabonis are both negatives here yet again, which would lead you to believe they are both playing well below what is expected of them.
Bam is at 57.7 TS%, where as he's average 60.7 the last 5 years, but we still know he's a great player.
$20M/yr guys Jarrett Allen and Capella don't seem to be impacting their team that well.

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“No Nance isn’t a 4, he’s an aging undersized 5 with injury history”

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He's a backup 5.
You are wanting to trade one backup 5, who we know when healthy is really good for us, for another backup 5 who's an expiring contract.
What's the point of that?

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replacing Larry Nance with Olynyk for a few playoffs series giving Trey Murphy more playing time doesn’t hurt us in my opinion.

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Why do you keep saying Larry Nance is preventing Trey from playing more? Larry plays the 5. Trey plays the 4 and the 3.
The guys taking minutes from Trey right now are Herb and Dyson, who are playing 52 minutes a night combined. I'm sorry, i mean the guy taking minutes away from Trey is Willie for some dumb reason.
Herb and Dyson are averaging 10 minutes played together a game, which is ridiculous. We have a net rating of 1.5 when they share the court.

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JV is an expirer as of now and Nance will be an expirer next season.

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that's why i say to go after a big on a rookie deal that looks like someone who can take JV's place next year.
Walker Kessler or Mark Williams. Both of these guys have shown they are huge impacts defensively on their crappy teams.

We talk about going into the tax to get better. I say use these 1sts we have to get better. The draft is a crapshoot, and while we have drafted well lately, we are due for a dud. Spending a pick or two on more of a sure thing is the route i think we should be looking at right now. We need a young 5, and we can't wait 2-3 years for them to be a contributor, or to see if they even can be a contributor. We have 3 picks in the next two years. Trade two of them if necessary.