OkieDokie

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He was running 3rd or 4th WR right?

That’s the deepest part of OUs team. No big loss

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He was set for a breakout this year. We know what we have in Burks and Anderson but Gibson offered unique length. He really started to come into his own last year. Agreed, his loss doesn't sink the WR room but He would have made it that much better.

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Oklahoma is going to find out this isn

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Gee, I haven't heard that one yet.

Lebby did some good things as OC, but he also had some tendencies that were problematic. His inability to adjust his pacing to the game situation stands out to me the most. His offense produced some really good statistics but would make the defenses job a lot harder when the offense couldn't find a rhythm.

From what I've heard, Littrell is going to be excellent as an OC. I don't expect the transition to be anything other than buttery smooth. Littrell has more experience than Lebby did when he was hired.

As far as Heupel is concerned, he's a very good OC. He had some struggles when he was coaching at OU, but he has developed a lot since then. I have a lot of respect for him and loved watching him as the QB in 1999 & 2000! Great dude and I expect him to be applauded when he returns to Norman this year!

It's not that it bothers me. Just trying to talk football. And seems like nobody knows what to make of this season with all of the change. It'll be fun to watch it shake out. :cheers:

Skins plenty thick. But that's no welcome where I come from.

Maybe my presentation just didn't come across as interesting. I can own that if it's true.

Maybe what would be interesting, would be to do a side by side comparison of Ranking of who you would consider the best teams vs the order you think each Team will finish in the SEC this year.

I'll go first.
Preseason Ranking
1 Georgia
2 Texas
3 Alabama
4 Ole Miss
5 Oklahoma
6 Tennessee
7 LSU
8 Missouri
9 Texas A&M
10 Kentucky
11 South Carolina
12 Florida
13 Auburn
14 Mississipi State
15 Arkansas
16 Vanderbilt

Predicted Finish
1 Georgia
2 Texas
2 Ole Miss
2 Missouri
5 Alabama
5 Oklahoma
5 Tennessee
5 LSU
5 Texas A&M
10 Kentucky
10 South Carolina
12 Auburn
13 Florida
14 Auburn
15 Arkansas
16 Vanderbilt

I'm sure this is not the first time this has been brought up, but it feels more relevant today than in past years to me.

Why do people bring up schedule when talking about pre-season rankings? I'm scratching my head as to what that has to do with ranking the best teams. As the season progresses it makes sense to consider a team's resume but that is a different exercise all together.

I would say who cares but where teams begin the season actually matters. What does SECRANT have to say about this?

Yeah, we'll see how Arnold does. I have high hopes but am cautious until I see it on the field. I am really hoping that Littrell will be better at TOP and will have a better feel for the flow of the game. I always felt like Lebby was in his own world just trying to go fast. He improved a little last year, but it still felt like he was trying too hard to scheme and rush the offense. Often it seemed that execution suffered as a result.

I agree that OU & Texas don't really belong in the SEC. As far as history and tradition they belong but that's not the only thing to consider.

The reality is, it's not exactly the real SEC anymore just like the Big 12 wasn't the Big 12 anymore and the Big 10 isn't the Big 10 anymore. It's not just the SEC that is moving away from what made college football better than the NFL to many. It's happening across the country.

I still love CFB but it's not the same sport and has lost much of its charm with realignment and pay for play.

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My take on this isn't intimidation of opposing teams by crowd size, it's fan support.

No conference has such driven fan support as the SEC. It's pressure from the fans that drive the programs to be as great as they are.

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That's a good point. I'd be curious about the ratio of graduating class size to average gameday attendance.

If you are including Oklahoma backs then you have to include Billy Sims (Heisman), Demarco Murray, Steve Owens (Heisman), Billy Vessels (Heisman) and Joe Washington.