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You're playing a team of mostly reserves.

Many of them are actually out of position.

And the style played is not comparable to the situation. They were aggressively trying to score all game.

Why did they give up that third goal? Because they were pushing forward trying to get their own third goal (and almost did)

If they needed a result, the lineup and the gameplan would have been very different.
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I will give credit to Dumars/Weaver for learning lessons from last year, keeping prices high and sticking to their guns.


What lessons? You're assuming that they now believe they made a mistake. They got the player they wanted and all it cost them was this year's 8, and none of the guys available at that time during the draft seem better than their guy. So, what lesson did they learn? If anything it convinced them to do more deals like that.
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can someone tell propelstalk justin to stop being so overly emotional?


He's a fan with a twitter following. Not sure why anyone takes him seriously.
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For a player like Trey its a massive positive because it guarantees longer team control.


True, but it makes him untradable right now. Which is a huge problem if the stories about him wanting out are true.
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There's 3 years left on his deal so there shouldn't be desperation to take any deal for him.


Plus no one will pay a lot to get him because you have to absorb 3 years.
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Stupid article. The most likely outcome even yesterday was 3rd place from group B being the matchup.


That is the Florioization of media. You look at an event with several possible outcomes. You pick the one outcome that is the most chaotic or advances your own personal agenda and go with it as if it's set in stone. That's how Mike Florio covers the NFL.
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The current PGAT regular events (29) total event purse is $226.9M. Not only are they lowering the amount of “regular” Tier 2 events from 29 events to at least 20 events, but they are also lowering the total purse amount of those events, as mentioned above the total purse for those events currently sits at $226.9M and they are going to lower it to a paltry $80M ($4M avg. X 20). That’s a total purse DECREASE of $146.9M for those Tier 2 events when compared to the current regular tour events.


This is why there will be no challenge series. Those events who have a business model to operate under the old system, will not be able to function at those funding levels. They are PGA Tour events, not Korn Ferry events. They will mostly fold and there won't be enough events to fill the schedule. Minus a merger with Korn Ferry, they are done and the tour will not replace them.
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Did you really just post an MSN article in 2026?


Yes i did. It's a Wall Street Journal article, but that's behind a paywall.
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Tanking for some, load management for others. The World Cup goes full NBA in game #3.
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Wait you're blaming Phil for this?


It's not just Phil, it's LIV as a whole that has caused this. They spent themselves silly to try to fend them off, which they did. Now, not only are they are out of money but sponsors are abandoning them left and right. They are in dire trouble. So, they eliminate half their events and 60 tour cards.

Successful business do not contract. This is contraction, plain and simple.

With 120 players, only between 50 and 60 will make the cut, as opposed to the 75-80 that usually make it, so that's 25 less players they have to pay. Add onto that far fewer events. It's pretty obvious where the savings are. You're paying fewer players fewer times a year.

The chances that this "challenge tour" actually happens is slim. They will struggle to find sponsors for the new tour; there's no way they will be able to find 20 or so sponsors for the minors, especially when they will be doing whatever they can to marginalize that tour in order to promote the big tour. They are trying to create demand, which any marketing person will tell you is a terrible idea.

I just wish they would be honest and admit they have no money and its either this or they go under just like LIV is.
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So saying oh in hindsight trading queen for the 8th pick wasn’t so bad is being intellectually dishonest


It's also dishonest to claim a trade is bad because of something that could have happened but probably wasn't gonna happen in fact did not happen.
Drafting is about the players, not the process.
Their asking price was always way too high.
Let's put this in Message Board Geniuses language:

Ghana ties England 0-0. #FireEverybody
I think there is a lot of delusion here about Trey's and Herb's value.
First off, Pine Valley is not a viable tournament site. It does not have the geography to handle the gallery. It's 1000 times worse than Merion on that front, and Merion can barely hold an event.

Second, this whole "Challenge Tour" is nonsense. It will never happen. First, most of the current events intended for that tour will be looking for new sponsors, since the Tour is breaching their contracts to do what they are doing. Zurich sponsors the Zurich because it is on CBS. If its not on CBS an instead buried on some streamer, Zurich has no reason to sponsor. This will happen to most events, which means 15-20 tournaments will be scrambling to find sponsors. That's too many.

Plus, who will play these events? The 60 guys who are losing their cards will just go to DP, where they can get full OWGR points, instead of playing on a tour with only a fraction of those points available. Playing well on the DP will get you into the Open; no such thing will be available on the Challenge Tour.

The bottom line is the Korn Ferry works just fine as the minor league tour, and the DP will be more than happy to have the PGA Tour's leftovers. There is no reason for the Challenge Tour to exist and they have to save money somewhere since they are broke, so by 2028 they will find an excuse to cancel it.
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#11 for Trey is a trash trade. Needs to be more.


You're not getting an 11 for Trey. No one will trade a top 15 pick for a backup player.

You can trade Trey for a late first maybe and Herb for a late first maybe. Then, if you can pull that off maybe you can turn to late 1sts into a middle 1st.

That's a massive long shot, but their only option to get that high.
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On one hand, you are totally correct that a bunch of sponsors could leave. But the purses going from $8-10 million down to $4 million might keep a couple around or get some new sponsors who can handle that level of funding. For companies like John Deere, it is probably way more palatable to have a worse field for $4 million and keep it in the current location rather than spending another $10 million to make the purse go to $20 million and have to move the tournament to Chicag


You're missing a part of this. One reason they sponsor these events is because they are on CBS or NBC. Now, they are relegated to maybe Golf Channel, maybe worse. I wouldn't put it past these guys to sell the rights to the minor league tour to Apple TV for a big check, much the same that MLS did.

Rememeber, the only logical explanation for eliminating 60 tour cards and over half your schedule is that you are running out of money. So they will take any money they can get.

Also remember this...you only pay guys who make the cut. Under the current cut math, a 120 player field puts the cut line at top 48 and ties.

That will really tell the story. When they announce how many guys make the cut on a weekly basis. If it's anything under 48 and ties, that will confirm it...they are broke.
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You don’t think the tour messaged this with sponsors behind the scenes to some degree?


It's been well reported for over a year that the Tour and the sponsors are at each other's throats over this. Rolopp trying to tell sponsors what can and cannot do with their money. The sponsors telling him to kiss off. They knew well over a year before they cancelled it that Kapalua was no longer a viable site, but it took that long to convince Sentry to stay in the tour.