tigerchil
| Favorite team: | LSU  |
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| Registered on: | 10/17/2007 |
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the 4th down Ware sneak
it's not a sneak if it's the only option! :banghead:
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Play action worked all frickin nite... All les had to do was let met get under center, and hand the ball off. Thats the great thing about play action incorporated into the game plan...! It keeps the defense guessing. Once ware lined up in the backfield the defense didn't have to defend play action pass... Les helped Bama out with the ware cat call!
Play Action Pass.... and Timing Patterns....
Posted by tigerchil on 10/28/12 at 3:50 pm
Watching the Bama/MS St. Game last night (or the 1st minute of) I noticed how the play calling was very similar to the play calling against LSU in the BCSCG last season.
They spread the ball around to involve all play-makers in the game plan, from the start of the game. Most importantly, they are not afraid to run play action pass on 1st down!
If called and executed correctly, play action on 1st down (especially on the goal line) is very difficult for a defense to defend.
Furthermore, the pass routes that Bama's WRs are running are usually timing patterns. Three step drop, and pass to a WR who runs a quick out or curl or run to open space...
Is LSU capable of running such an offensive game plan. And if the OC calls the plays, are the WRs/TEs/RBs able to run the routes and/or is the QB capable of making the read and making the throw???
Just curious, because it is common knowledge that LSU can run the ball effectively, but I think we as LSU fans have yet to see a fluent and effective game plan thus far in 2012 that includes both running and passing the ball with efficiency... the SC game was the closest thing to LSU's perfect game so far...
But Im not sure if the play calling is the cause of lack of productivity in our passing game, or if it is the lack of execution on the part of some of the players on the field???
I love the Tigers and want nothing more than to beat Bama. So hopefully the coaches and players play the most complete game of 2012 this coming week!!! :geauxtigers:
They spread the ball around to involve all play-makers in the game plan, from the start of the game. Most importantly, they are not afraid to run play action pass on 1st down!
If called and executed correctly, play action on 1st down (especially on the goal line) is very difficult for a defense to defend.
Furthermore, the pass routes that Bama's WRs are running are usually timing patterns. Three step drop, and pass to a WR who runs a quick out or curl or run to open space...
Is LSU capable of running such an offensive game plan. And if the OC calls the plays, are the WRs/TEs/RBs able to run the routes and/or is the QB capable of making the read and making the throw???
Just curious, because it is common knowledge that LSU can run the ball effectively, but I think we as LSU fans have yet to see a fluent and effective game plan thus far in 2012 that includes both running and passing the ball with efficiency... the SC game was the closest thing to LSU's perfect game so far...
But Im not sure if the play calling is the cause of lack of productivity in our passing game, or if it is the lack of execution on the part of some of the players on the field???
I love the Tigers and want nothing more than to beat Bama. So hopefully the coaches and players play the most complete game of 2012 this coming week!!! :geauxtigers:
re: Shep in the wildcat next year?
Posted by tigerchil on 1/14/12 at 4:56 pm to SlowFlowPro
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that's what i'm thinking we haven't really seen a real wildcat, so i don't expect to see it next year
no slow, but I think ware takes the snap and either gives to RS or keeps the ball, every once in a while both ware and RS have opportunities to pass the ball... they both did it in high school.
IMO this is by far the best Scenario for RS in college football, and on this team. He's not at his best at WR, at least not thus far.
But glad he's staying :geauxtigers:
re: Who on this board thinks that they could have done better .
Posted by tigerchil on 1/13/12 at 12:39 pm to tigerfan63
Absolutely!
We r a running team! But there r other ways, besides the option, to run the ball! And our OC has zero creativity when it comes to adjustments and doing things spread the field so we can run. Ie-see how bama move around so much prior to snapping the ball and used decoys, etc...
RS didn't even get 1 end around, or even a fake...
Mind Blowing!!!
RS didn't even get 1 end around, or even a fake...
Mind Blowing!!!
Hate to tell u it's not just TIger fans that can't understand the offensive game plan. ANyone who watched the game is :confused: ....
We were a team with 2 average qbs, who needed a creative game plan to beat a really good team like Bama! Lee got robbed, he has played his role for 4 frickin years and got robbed of an opportunity to do what he came to LSU to do, while jj was like a dear in the head lights...
Everyone saw this, again, not just tigers fans!
:angry:
We were a team with 2 average qbs, who needed a creative game plan to beat a really good team like Bama! Lee got robbed, he has played his role for 4 frickin years and got robbed of an opportunity to do what he came to LSU to do, while jj was like a dear in the head lights...
Everyone saw this, again, not just tigers fans!
:angry:
re: Finebaum yesterday...says he wandered to LSU locker room
Posted by tigerchil on 1/11/12 at 10:44 am to MetryTyger
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but no up-the-middle-pitches to Hilliard - who dominated the last few games of the season, no reverses or end-arounds, no post patterns to Randle, no bubble screens to Beckham, no intermediate curls to Peterson, no Jefferson roll-out pass/run options, and no passes or trick plays at all to Shepard
The above BLOWS MY MIND!
I have seen us run these plays in the past, so it's not like we don’t have them in our play book.... To not open the play book in the 2nd half of the game and make some of the above calls is insanity!!!
And the option play was horrible!!! JJ would jock out to the side line, and the OLBs would let him do it so the rest of the D could pursuit the RB and BLOW IT UP!!! ALL F'ing night! Everyone knew that Bama would scheme on this play,,, surely the coaching staff had to know? And when it didn't work, there was ZERO plan B!!!
And all the talk of RS transferring - why would he stay? He’s not being used for his talents!!! The OC didn’t even use him as a decoy on an end around the other night???
re: Do you have complete trust in Lee to hang in the pocket strong and deliver
Posted by tigerchil on 11/2/11 at 8:03 am to Hammond Tiger Fan
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Missed his freshman year where he averaged 7 ypc? Shep looked great in that role before being moved to WR
1) nope, saw the entire thing, and you're right - the way he was used his Fresh yr would be a better role for him BUT...
2) that was FAR from a true wild cat formation (he NEVER ONCE took a snap from center, faked a handoff to one of our great RBs, and had a chance to run to open space up field.)
I don't consider just taking a snap from center and running left or right a true wild cat!!! What D-Mac and Jones did at Arky was a true wild cat formation.
RS has "not lived up to expectations" because he is not being put in situations that play to his strong points, and that is making plays with a little bit of open space...
re: Who would be our best wildcat qb?
Posted by tigerchil on 10/4/11 at 11:30 pm to therocketscientist
if one does not say #10, than that person did not see any of RS's high school video! he was incredible in this type of role in HS and has yet to even be given one chance, in live play, to run a real wild cat play. once I believe in a spring game he did and he would have had a 50 plus yrd td against LSU’s 1st team defense (but I think the play was blown dead.)
re: Herbstreit says honey badger #1 on his list for heisman!
Posted by tigerchil on 10/4/11 at 2:30 pm to Antonio Moss
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I don't get the hate for Herbstreit. He pimps LSU often.
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Shepard is better in the open field. He got a handoff and ripped off 12 yards like it was nothing. They need to find other ways to get him the ball.
This!!!
Shep has his place on this team; and God I hope he is used more to spread the field in upcoming games!!! OBjr. is a different type of WR than Shep and only makes us more dynamic.
OBjr33 is damn good for a freshman. This is a good problem to have,,, man it's good to be a tiger fan these days...
:geauxtigers:
To LSU Fans - Regardless of what you think is right or wrong, the only way you will affect the outcome on ANY game is to get loud when the team needs it. Booing helps,,, in NO WAY AT ALL - it can only do harm!
These are 19 - 21 yr old young men! Grow up people; LSU has a great team, with much depth and talent, this is one of the best teams we have had a chance to witness in Tiger Stadium - Enjoy Yourselves!!!
:geauxtigers:
These are 19 - 21 yr old young men! Grow up people; LSU has a great team, with much depth and talent, this is one of the best teams we have had a chance to witness in Tiger Stadium - Enjoy Yourselves!!!
:geauxtigers:
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yeah that catch on the sidelines was right in his numbers. Moron
+1
But I still can’t understand why RS is not used more as a "D McCluster" type back? Maybe we will see more when we get into the big SEC Games but man what a waste of talent if he's not used more to stretch the field!!!
really??? :confused:
re: Ford should be starting. Thoughts?
Posted by tigerchil on 9/18/11 at 9:47 pm to SouthOfSouth
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He is a good change of pace back. He is better with a worn down defense anyway. I have no problem with how it is set up right now because they get near same # of touches and they both are a different pace for our offense.
this...
they r both studs! LSU is looking good!!! :geauxtigers:
AND - that O-line is good; giving lee time to throw the ball is helpful...
1) he was a freshman thrown into the mix, because the Starting QB got kicked off of the team. Therefore threw all the INTs for TDs in his 1st year (which has since defined him as a QB for some reason)
2) he is a senior now! last year he showed progress from previous years; as any player should throughout a college football career.
3) because he is a senior and because of our defense, he knows that all he has to do is manage the game and take what the opposing teams defense give him and the Tigers win another BCS Title…
plus all of the things that the original poster said don’t hurt either...
:geauxtigers:
2) he is a senior now! last year he showed progress from previous years; as any player should throughout a college football career.
3) because he is a senior and because of our defense, he knows that all he has to do is manage the game and take what the opposing teams defense give him and the Tigers win another BCS Title…
plus all of the things that the original poster said don’t hurt either...
:geauxtigers:
re: Simon Was Impressive
Posted by tigerchil on 9/5/11 at 12:39 pm to VincentVega
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I think the overall defensive talent on this team is as good as any ever at LSU
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Herbie is usually pretty favorable to LSU. I get that the Miles to Michigan debacle put him on our shite list, but he's usually one of the ones giving us loads of praise.
I think for the most part Herb calls it how it is...
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