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I rarely listen to sports talk radio anymore, and especially a show that starts before the roosters even wake up. But i was up one morning several weeks ago, just after we hired Lane, and I flipped on the radio. Canty sounded like Lane stole his wife, kids, house, car, job, and identity. He could not stop ranting about what a horrible thing Lane had done.

I just don't get it. I'm not blind to what Ole Miss fans are dealing with. We've been there. And to make matters worse, is the obvious crazy timing of it all. I get being upset, in general. But this whole idea of 'abandoning" his team is just wildly off base. The only reason this hasn't happened many times before, is because the schedule has never been this dumb. Coaches always leave for better jobs. If you don't realize, or don't think that LSU is a better job than Ole Miss, you are either clueless or you're not an honest person. So of course he wanted to take advantage of that opportunity, but if he waited too long, someone else would have gotten the job. Ole Miss knew that, and knew that he was going to have a decision to make, so they decided to force his hand.

They could have let him coach the playoffs, like those two other coaches who were leaving got to do, but they kicked him out of the building. So How is that on Lane? Why aren't the other coaches being called bad people, and being shamed for "abandonment"? Just because they were allowed to finish the season? So Lane's a bad guy because Ole Miss was too mad to let him finish the season?

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You would have had to be an idiot to look at that schedule and believe they would be prepared for SEC play.

And someone on here posted a couple weeks back that this was her most talented team at LSU.


People have short memories. They played a pre-conference schedule every bit this bad in the year they won the national championship, and only lost two games the whole year once they started playing real teams.

The problem isn't that the schedule didn't prepare them. The problem is that they are playing with a lack of either effort (as was the problem against Kentucky, when they just stood around and let Kentucky get to nearly every rebound) or focus (as was the issue in this game, where they made repeated unforced mistakes, just throwing the ball wildly into heavy traffic areas). When they actually lock in with effort and stop making mental mistakes, they can beat anyone. I mean, you're talking about being unprepared, and yet they've lost two games by a combined 6 points to teams ranked just outside of the top 10, who will both probably be in the top 10 now.

So let's stop acting like they started league play, and now they're getting their teeth kicked in. They've played two bad games, relative to what they are capable of, and could have easily won both games.

I'm irritated at the lack of effort, and the repeated mental mistakes. I'm making no excuses for them, because there is no excuse. But I'm also not buying into this "not ready" narrative. You can play a schedule of nothing but ranked teams, and it means nothing if you don't commit to showing up and playing the right way. Why was Fulwiley so bad against Kentucky? Why was Flau'jae so bad against Vandy? Aren't those two national championship winning players who have been on multiple deep NCAA tournament runs? Are they not tested? Are we really going to blame the schedule for their struggles?
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I’ll give you the Qatar love is weird, but they are an ally at least.


Qatar is not an Ally. You people know nothing but how to hate Israel, anymore. There is no discernment.
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He isn’t coming here or anywhere. As long as he plays decently for SCar next year he will be a 1st round pick lock.


It doesn't really matter where he goes in the draft next year. He has another year to play college ball before then, and why not do it for a team that has a decent chance to win, and more money to play there than he'll get at South Carolina?

I don't know if he'll come here, but I don't think his draft status is going to have anything to do with his decision.
I watched about 5 minutes of that last night, and I moved on to something else. I could tell these were some bitter dudes, and I don't like listening to people who just react emotionally.

Their team is not the victim. College football, itself, is the victim of this ridiculous era, and no team is immune to the downsides of it. The reality is, if you want to be a beneficiary of the market, you have to establish a winning program. If you weren't established before this era began, you need an elite coach who can do more with less. So go find that coach, if you can. Indiana somehow did.

You also need money, but you can still compete for enough good talent, and retain enough of it, if you just win. You might not be at the top of the market, but a successful football program will bring in some serious money.
And, once more, the majority of the people in the thread have missed the obvious sarcasm.
It doesn't make any sense from a football standpoint, but it could be one of the few jobs that he'd leave Bama for, if he is struggling with the pressure of his current job.

I have no idea where his head actually is, and if he has any interest in Michigan. But it seems that a lot of people think they can read his mind. We'll see if they've guessed right, but I'd be pretty surprised to see him leave. Michigan can certainly pay whatever he wants, if that's a higher priority for him.
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Lane did well but he didn’t recruit these guys in 3 days. Come on now.


He had three days to convince them to stay. Nothing that happens in the months and years leading up to signing day means a thing if you don't close and get them to actually sign. When there are coaching changes, it usually means your recruiting class falls apart. He had to re-recruit these guys, which is especially hard in the NIL era, where you have to fend off not just good programs, but even mediocre ones with deep pockets.

Anyone who doesn't appreciate the job Lane did, in my opinion, does not understand this process.
After what I've seen in recent years, when Lamar Brown originally committed to LSU, I didn't even have a reaction. I literally did not care, because recruiting news means nothing to me anymore until they sign. And after the way the season went, and Lane coming in last minute before signing day, I was prepared to lose every top commit we had, and was more just looking toward what Lane could do in the coming years with some actual time to build classes.

For him to keep all of our top guys AND to convince Baker to stay is just enormous. And you know he's about to go wild in the portal if the rumored budget is true.

re: Karr vs catholic

Posted by Metaloctopus on 12/5/25 at 9:26 pm to
I watched the 4th quarter of that game. John Curtis played spectacularly soft on defense on the final drive, letting St Aug go 70 yards in 39 seconds with one timeout. Gave them all the space they needed to get up field AND get out of bounds on every play.

I have no dog in that fight, technically, but it's always nice to see Curtis lose.
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This team obviously won’t be a tough as nails D, so I’d like to see them take care of the ball better, much better.
I don’t know much about analytics, but I can’t imagine that was a very efficient 93 pts. That’s fine now, but will need to improve.


They were extremely efficient at scoring the ball when they actually got a shot off. The turnovers were the only thing that could stop them, and they were mostly just silly mistakes that were easily avoidable.
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They can definitely score. That travels better in December than it does in December.
I saw a sloppy team tonight that doesn’t cherish the ball or really care much to defend.
There’s lots of talent, but lots of deficiencies that need to be addressed.
I’m sure Kim is up to the task. I trust her to coach em up.


These were my takeaways, as well. We knew they could score, and they further proved that. The turnovers were largely unforced, careless plays, and there was a very noticeable lack of hustle getting back on defense. That was very odd to me. I've seen them have trouble with back cuts, but usually effort is not the problem. They were coasting back after nearly every shot.

LSU won this game by 16, but they handed Duke a large, large portion of what they put on the board with silly turnovers, and just not even trying to defend. If they clean up the decisions and simply play with an acceptable level of effort on defense, they are the best team in the country.
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No, I want the best system possible. Which we haven’t achieved yet. I want as many of the most entertaining games between the best teams in the country that I can get.


There is nothing entertaining about watching some crappy team outside of the top ten get blown out. And you are advocating for even more teams to be let in.

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Who is advocating for that?


Who? That is literally the reason we even have a playoff. If it's not about letting more supposedly "deserving" teams have an opportunity, then it doesn't have a purpose.

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I can’t imagine saying that “you can’t make everyone happy so why even try to improve it”


Strawman argument. Making change for the sake of change does not equal "better". People have tried to "improve" the system and have only succeeding in watering it down. So it is basic logic that adding on more teams, and getting rid of conference championships will only water it down even more.

You want the best system possible, but you don't know what that is. And that's the problem. I liked things the way they were at 4 teams. Others weren't satisfied. Now we have 12. You want more. You see the pattern here? Just because you might like something more, doesn't mean it's what's best for everyone. You are elevating your own opinion as if it's the only one that matters, and you don't take into account that plenty of people agree with my side of the argument. So where do we go from here? We just change things because change is good? No thanks.
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There's nothing good anymore about conference title games. They've outlived their usefulness. They're only good for getting a key player hurt like Carson Beck (Georgia QB) last season.


People get hurt in practice. I've never bought that as an excuse to not play a game.

The people who complain that it hurts them, quickly change their mind when that game serves as a de facto play in for their team. There are two sides to every argument.
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So would you like to go back to the BCS? Or would you like to go back to when the AP just named the national champion? What is your perfect system?


There's your problem, right there. You want a perfect system. There isn't one. Trying to make a perfect system is how you muddy the waters and make things worse. A 4 to 8 team playoff is enough. Trying to make all the whiners happy who say they've been left out, is never going to work. Because each time you expand, whatever the number is, the next few teams out will argue that they were more deserving than the teams directly in front of them. I said this before there was any playoff at all. And here we are. We jumped from 4 to 12, and people are arguing for more expansion.

You can't make everyone happy. So leave it alone. That's my position. You're not going to agree, and I get it. I'm also not going to change my mind, because I'm tired of change for the sake of change. It's exhausting, and pointless.
Well if the only evidence you have is upvotes and downvotes, it seems like you need to read the room, if you think I'm in the minority.
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But they are pointless, and they create an unfair and unbalanced system. The sport is evolving and with that evolution, changes need to be made to improve the process. Also, what you described is exactly what's killing the sport. You are advocating for a game in which teams might be inclined to play a bunch of walk-ons instead of a playoff game in which every team would be desperaely trying to win.


I never advocated for the stupid 12 team playoff. These conference championship games held a lot more importance when we weren't watering down the field with this stupid format. So no. My position isn't what's ruining the sport. It's the people who are constantly trying to fix what wasn't broken who are ruining the sport.

All of this complaining about an "unbalanced system". The system is unbalanced no matter what you do, because there are so many different conferences, unlike in professional sports, and the level of competition is each conference is nowhere near comparable to one another.

So people try to "fix" it by adding more teams to the playoff. Then more, and more, and more. When will it be enough? Take a look at the basketball tournament. It's never enough. And that's the problems with all of these "fix it" people. Sometimes you just have to leave well enough alone, and stop complaining.
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What does Georgia or Alabama have to gain by playing the SECCG? Other than a trophy? Alabama could get knock out of playoffs with another loss. Not likely because it’s Alabama but possible. Meanwhile, Oklahoma, Texas &M, Ole Miss are actually ranked higher than Alabama and get to sit home and rest.


They'll have plenty of rest before the playoffs. Playing games keeps you sharp. And it's nothing new that sometimes playing for a conference championship could hurt you. But if you get rid of them, there will be just as many, if not more instances where conferences hurt themselves by not having that extra game. It's just part of the deal.
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If Alabama get kicked from the playoff this year, I’d expect it to happen next year. They need to get rid of conference championship games, expand to 16 teams, and be done with it.


No more expansion, please. 12 is already terrible, with mediocre teams getting in.

Conference championship games are part of the process. No reason to remove them. If any team finds themselves not caring about a conference title game because they think it doesn't matter, then they can play a bunch of walk-on's and get embarrassed. Otherwise, man up and play the game to win. I'm tired of people trying to ruin everything that was good about this sport, by replacing everything with never ending expansion, realignment, pseudo free agency, and trying to duck out of playing games, for one reason or another.

re: Chris Fowler weighs in

Posted by Metaloctopus on 12/2/25 at 5:41 pm to
That was nicely said, overall. I do disagree with one thing he said, which is that Kiffin will "likely" be fired one day by LSU. That's a weird comment. If he doesn't run the program into the ground, he won't be fired. Every coach here who has been fired, whether they won a championship or not, did something to warrant their eventual firing. Why did Miami fire Coker? He sank that ship. Fowler made it sound like LSU just fires people for being there too long. No, they fire people when they stop doing a good job, or never did a good job to begin with. Saban never would have been fired here. If you keep winning, you keep your job. That's the way this works.
I've been waiting for the talking heads on national TV and radio to admit this, but they haven't. None I've heard, anyway.

I get that you're upset, if you're an Ole Miss fan. How are you not going to be upset over losing your successful head coach, at any time, let alone ahead of the playoffs. But as far as making Kiffin out to be some kind of monster for the timing of it shows a total lack of awareness. Coaches have always left for better jobs. It only SEEMS worse here, because of the timing, but that timing is completely out of Kiffin's control. He wanted the job, LSU was willing to wait, but Ole Miss was not, and could not. They had to get a decision so that they could move forward, and there's no way you let a coach with a conflict of interest coach your team in the playoffs.

So, what was Lane supposed to do? Just not take the job he's wanted for years? I don't see anyone in the media complaining about players bailing on their teams for "business reasons". This all could have been avoided by not having such a stupid schedule. We all knew this was going to be a problem, but somehow the NCAA had zero foresight, once again.