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re: Tigerdropping’s Democrats Thoughts On Censorship
Posted by songbird on 1/9/21 at 12:29 am
I'll bite. I did my graduate degree at LSU and also have degrees from UA. I read here from time to time to get how SEC frat boys, and their parents think. Most of you guys are republican and not moderates, no matter what you say. My education is such that I've interviewed with Trump administration in top scale lifer positions (i.e. U.S. Treasury at GS15 scale etc. and a slew of other similar).
1. I personally am laughing at the whole thing. Twitter was going to ban trump in two weeks any way.
2. In general, I don't think it absolves tech companies. I don't think tech companies can simply say 'oh we banned trump' so they get excused from hard talks about section 230 and regulation of tech industry. In pharmaceuticals, banking, technology that effects the general public is evaluated before it can be used. They are pretty stringent, as I work in that space on the corporate side (i.e. I work only for fortune 100 corporations). I don't think tech should be allowed to self-regulate when they such a big influence outside of their space. Facebook makes their business from ads. They can't turn around say they had nothing to do with jan 6th, when people paid for ads to get a group of people to go to X place in the first place.
I think they are culpable, when their ap is used to organize crime. Whatever y'all might think, a group of people, some who are armed walking into a legislature where senate majority/minority leaders, speaker of the house and VP are present is a crime.
I don't think its just a mater of arresting those people. Tech needs to be held accountable. Its not just about what happened today. Facebook and all social media is a global company. In other countries, unregulated tech can lead to real civil chaos. There clearly needs to be standards regulations around how our information can be used, but also liability. Its up to tech to determine if they let politics on their platform at all. That also doesn't mean they are not liable if crime occurs through their platform.
Forgive any typos, I am drunk.
1. I personally am laughing at the whole thing. Twitter was going to ban trump in two weeks any way.
2. In general, I don't think it absolves tech companies. I don't think tech companies can simply say 'oh we banned trump' so they get excused from hard talks about section 230 and regulation of tech industry. In pharmaceuticals, banking, technology that effects the general public is evaluated before it can be used. They are pretty stringent, as I work in that space on the corporate side (i.e. I work only for fortune 100 corporations). I don't think tech should be allowed to self-regulate when they such a big influence outside of their space. Facebook makes their business from ads. They can't turn around say they had nothing to do with jan 6th, when people paid for ads to get a group of people to go to X place in the first place.
I think they are culpable, when their ap is used to organize crime. Whatever y'all might think, a group of people, some who are armed walking into a legislature where senate majority/minority leaders, speaker of the house and VP are present is a crime.
I don't think its just a mater of arresting those people. Tech needs to be held accountable. Its not just about what happened today. Facebook and all social media is a global company. In other countries, unregulated tech can lead to real civil chaos. There clearly needs to be standards regulations around how our information can be used, but also liability. Its up to tech to determine if they let politics on their platform at all. That also doesn't mean they are not liable if crime occurs through their platform.
Forgive any typos, I am drunk.
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re: New Talking Point: DRUMPF only paid $750 in taxes in 2016 and 2017
Posted by songbird on 9/28/20 at 12:31 pm
Long Way from LA. You are wasting your breath. The only thing you learn from this forum is how the echo-chamber thinks.
re: When Saban finally retires..Dabo will take over the reigns
Posted by songbird on 11/5/18 at 10:25 pm
Dabo or No Dabo. It is very very hard to turn down Alabama. You are talking about people who are competitive by their very nature. A lot of fans think foot ball program is great. Usually those are programs that go 10 and 3 every season and have one national championship in the last 50 years. Alabama's legacy is in a very different place.
re: Is Bama all Saban or would they win without him?
Posted by songbird on 11/5/18 at 10:18 pm
I am 31 and grew up in Tuscaloosa. Before Nick Saban the last time UA had a program that was in regular national championship contention was under Gene Stallings, who retired in 1996. For the next 10 years, Alabama had a mediocre program, riddled with sanctions and inconsistent performance until they hired Nick Saban. At the time they hired him they offered him the largest contract ever offered to a College Football coach, essentially full personnel control something never offered before to college coaches.
Everyone who has lived in Tuscaloosa, is my age or older, knows that Nick Saban is the reason UA's program is what it is. They do have a legacy and will be great even once he's gone. However, he is the Dynasty. Whenever his career at Alabama ends there is no guarantee that Alabama's program will be #1 in the country.
Everyone who has lived in Tuscaloosa, is my age or older, knows that Nick Saban is the reason UA's program is what it is. They do have a legacy and will be great even once he's gone. However, he is the Dynasty. Whenever his career at Alabama ends there is no guarantee that Alabama's program will be #1 in the country.
re: LSU is 7-2. Horrible loss but 7-2 is damn good right now.
Posted by songbird on 11/4/18 at 11:16 am
But 7-2 this point in the season was regularly given to you when Les was coach. There is no reason to hold Coach O to a lower standard.
re: Honest question: why did we get rid of Les??
Posted by songbird on 11/4/18 at 11:13 am
some how people think talented head coaches grow on trees.
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"Miles had a record of 114-34 (.770) with the Tigers. If you're looking for context of how good that is, consider that a career record of .600 makes a coach eligible for the College Football Hall of Fame. Consider that it's better than the record of his predecessor, Nick Saban (48-16, .750). Or just consider this: Miles began this season as one of five active head coaches who had won a national championship."
"There is no guarantee that firing someone as successful as Miles will result in a better program. It's just as possible that LSU won't be able to hire a coach as successful as Miles. There's a long list of schools that got rid of someone who was winning and got worse.
Nebraska has gone 19 years since its national championship. More to this point, it has gone 17 years without a conference championship.
Michigan, which has won more football games than any program anywhere, hasn't won the Big Ten championship in 12 years.
Syracuse fired Paul Pasqualoni in 2004 after he had one losing record in 14 seasons. The Orange have had nine losing seasons since."
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"Miles had a record of 114-34 (.770) with the Tigers. If you're looking for context of how good that is, consider that a career record of .600 makes a coach eligible for the College Football Hall of Fame. Consider that it's better than the record of his predecessor, Nick Saban (48-16, .750). Or just consider this: Miles began this season as one of five active head coaches who had won a national championship."
"There is no guarantee that firing someone as successful as Miles will result in a better program. It's just as possible that LSU won't be able to hire a coach as successful as Miles. There's a long list of schools that got rid of someone who was winning and got worse.
Nebraska has gone 19 years since its national championship. More to this point, it has gone 17 years without a conference championship.
Michigan, which has won more football games than any program anywhere, hasn't won the Big Ten championship in 12 years.
Syracuse fired Paul Pasqualoni in 2004 after he had one losing record in 14 seasons. The Orange have had nine losing seasons since."
re: A look at Alabama's QB production
Posted by songbird on 11/1/18 at 8:39 pm
This is my take. I have affiliation with both schools. I like my chances of seeing a play off team this year ;). I am certainly betting against the spread.
While I think Bama's strength of schedule makes it hard to makes LSU the first real test they've had this season. I think people are here are over rating strength of schedule. I remember that in 2011 (the season which LSU and Bama met again in the national championship) involved teams ranked Ok State and Oregon (#2 /#3) losing later in the season to teams ranked #18 and unranked. Thats why bama played at all in that game.
Bama this season has been able to put four touch down leads in 10 minutes of the game against teams of that caliber. I'm pretty sure that has something to do with this new starting qb kid.
If LSU wins it probably will be the defense here in BR does well enough from preventing Bama from scoring more than three touchdowns. Bama's defense allows at least 3 touch downs. I figure the game will look something like 21 LSU, 19 Bama (assuming Bama kicker).
If bama gets four touch downs, I think bama wins.
While I think Bama's strength of schedule makes it hard to makes LSU the first real test they've had this season. I think people are here are over rating strength of schedule. I remember that in 2011 (the season which LSU and Bama met again in the national championship) involved teams ranked Ok State and Oregon (#2 /#3) losing later in the season to teams ranked #18 and unranked. Thats why bama played at all in that game.
Bama this season has been able to put four touch down leads in 10 minutes of the game against teams of that caliber. I'm pretty sure that has something to do with this new starting qb kid.
If LSU wins it probably will be the defense here in BR does well enough from preventing Bama from scoring more than three touchdowns. Bama's defense allows at least 3 touch downs. I figure the game will look something like 21 LSU, 19 Bama (assuming Bama kicker).
If bama gets four touch downs, I think bama wins.
re: My worst fears about Ed Orgeron seem baseless now
Posted by songbird on 9/5/18 at 3:58 pm
I swear everytime I come here, I think the fan base is bipolar. If he loses to South Eastern then it will be doom and gloom. If he beats Alabama, then he is gods gift to humanity. The thing about being raised in an all bama household is I was taught growing up that there is no REALLY bad team in the traditional S.E.C. and every week two s.e.c teams match up its anyones game.
The thing is the stance on the coach is really about is it a step towards a national championship (what the school works) or a step away from it. My thought was at the time we fire les miles, there were only maybe 3 or 4 coaches that proven better coaches and unless we were sure to get another coach that moved us closer there was no point in firing miles and certainly for someone who was a proven failure of a HC in another school. Thats also why I think he is the wrong answer unless he can make it all the way to the play off and there isn't a clear indication of that yet.
Being someone who grew up in Tuscaloosa and saw Bama's dark ages (between Gene Stalling's) to Saban. The thing that I know well is that a good program is one that consistently performs well , rather than inconsistently. Alabama in their dark ages 10-3 records under every coach between Gene Stallings and Saban. They also had losing seasons under those same coaches . There were sanctions and other contributing factors, but the period to me is reminiscent of LSU now.
When Bama Hired Saban, he had proven record as a turn around coach. Offered him the highest salary every to be offered to a college coach (and even most nfl coaches), gave him the ability to walk away at any time and gave him the key to the entire program something never had been done anywhere. Thats exactly what LSU has to do to get coaches with that potential
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The thing is the stance on the coach is really about is it a step towards a national championship (what the school works) or a step away from it. My thought was at the time we fire les miles, there were only maybe 3 or 4 coaches that proven better coaches and unless we were sure to get another coach that moved us closer there was no point in firing miles and certainly for someone who was a proven failure of a HC in another school. Thats also why I think he is the wrong answer unless he can make it all the way to the play off and there isn't a clear indication of that yet.
Being someone who grew up in Tuscaloosa and saw Bama's dark ages (between Gene Stalling's) to Saban. The thing that I know well is that a good program is one that consistently performs well , rather than inconsistently. Alabama in their dark ages 10-3 records under every coach between Gene Stallings and Saban. They also had losing seasons under those same coaches . There were sanctions and other contributing factors, but the period to me is reminiscent of LSU now.
When Bama Hired Saban, he had proven record as a turn around coach. Offered him the highest salary every to be offered to a college coach (and even most nfl coaches), gave him the ability to walk away at any time and gave him the key to the entire program something never had been done anywhere. Thats exactly what LSU has to do to get coaches with that potential
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re: Congratulations LSU
Posted by songbird on 9/3/18 at 4:08 pm
28.4175% seems very accurate. I trust this estimate.
re: Not believing in O is not the same as “hating” LSU
Posted by songbird on 9/3/18 at 4:00 pm
The Drama and Salt is the real reason I come to Tiger Droppings. The fighting and bickering has afforded me hours of time wasting entertainment. I vote that you guys settle your differences with light sabers.
re: Can LSU beat Alabama this year?
Posted by songbird on 9/2/18 at 4:44 am
type long posts with your thumbs and youll make all sorts of mistakes.
re: Can LSU beat Alabama this year?
Posted by songbird on 9/2/18 at 1:26 am
Apparently bama might have their best offense ever, thanks to their new starting quarter back. As someone who can take a neutral view on this ( I have affiliation with both places). Bama fans usually worship their quarter backs, but in my opinion most of the bama quarter backs under Nick Saban, generally could not throw or make long passes. They were largely carried along by the talent of Alabama's defensive team. Tua can throw.
The only thing that might stop Bama this year is that their defense isn't as good as the past few years and the team is young. Injuries might be the other thing.
The only thing that might stop Bama this year is that their defense isn't as good as the past few years and the team is young. Injuries might be the other thing.
re: What happens when LSU made relevant Nickie finally retires?
Posted by songbird on 9/2/18 at 1:03 am
So I have affiliation with both schools and am originally from Tuscaloosa. The level of irrational hatred that LSU fans have towards Nick Saban and Bama is mind boggling here in Baton Rouge. If I ever walk around anywhere in a Bama shirt any where I get heckled or death stares. If I wear and LSU shirt around tuscaloosa (including UA's gym) no one notices. Its the worst mostly one sided rivalry (exception on game wekeends) I've seen.
re: Alleva and F.King must be removed this week
Posted by songbird on 1/11/18 at 1:52 pm
Bingo. As someone who has been in higher ed and at Alabama, Georgia, I can tell you F.King's main job is to basically keep the school afloat as a flagship research university, while the state legislature used LSU's budget to give you tax breaks. They brought him explicitly because he has the reputation for knowing how to run a school with more students and fewer faculty.
Every single time you or your kids complain that they can't get the class required for their degree program or whatever. Thats because LSU doesn't have enough instructors to teach those courses for the number of students that needs to take this. They rely on international graduate students for teaching and their ability to do that with graduate students is also being stretched thin. Graduate students don't graduate by teaching classes and their competition (alabama and georgia) doesn't make them teach as much as LSU does.
Every single time you or your kids complain that they can't get the class required for their degree program or whatever. Thats because LSU doesn't have enough instructors to teach those courses for the number of students that needs to take this. They rely on international graduate students for teaching and their ability to do that with graduate students is also being stretched thin. Graduate students don't graduate by teaching classes and their competition (alabama and georgia) doesn't make them teach as much as LSU does.
re: If you still support O please post here and tell me why?
Posted by songbird on 1/11/18 at 3:14 am
I support O, because Roll Tide.
re: SEC Strength at an All Time High
Posted by songbird on 12/3/17 at 7:31 pm
The issue with the discussion in CFP, is that teams don't play out of conference (nor should they. This is an amateur sport). I don't follow every team and I can't make an intelligent comment about what went on outside the S.E.C
I do think that a national championship winning team isn't one that loses ever to an unranked team. People want to discredit alabama's season because their only 'top 20' wins are LSU, MSU. This is disingenuous. LSU beat Auburn, Auburn beat two teams that were ranked #1.
Saban is right. Had alabama lost to an unranked team in the S.E.C they wouldn't be even having a conversation on whether or not they should be in the conference.
You can take it a step further. When a team that is ranked top 10 loses to an unranked team are tehy really top 10? I'm really skeptical that OSU would be ranked a top 10 if they were playing in the S.E.C west.
I do think that a national championship winning team isn't one that loses ever to an unranked team. People want to discredit alabama's season because their only 'top 20' wins are LSU, MSU. This is disingenuous. LSU beat Auburn, Auburn beat two teams that were ranked #1.
Saban is right. Had alabama lost to an unranked team in the S.E.C they wouldn't be even having a conversation on whether or not they should be in the conference.
You can take it a step further. When a team that is ranked top 10 loses to an unranked team are tehy really top 10? I'm really skeptical that OSU would be ranked a top 10 if they were playing in the S.E.C west.
re: Let’s share stories from our time in SEC country...
Posted by songbird on 10/27/17 at 2:49 pm
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Seriously?? you do realize that most on here live in SEC country, so you want people to give their life stories?
I grew up in S.E.C country. I'll tell you about my 4 years as undergrad outside of the Country.
I went to school at a university in an English speaking country outside of the U.S. They didn't have large collegiate sports and kids had no school spirit. They treated the place like high school (this is top rated school in this country). Also KFC didn't serve biscuits. The only American BBQ joint didn't know what sweet tea was.
This could have been dark times, but life was okay.
Drinking Age was 19, mass transit was a thing, clubs were good and even average girls knew how to do make up and dress like models.
re: For those who have been to Tuscaloosa
Posted by songbird on 10/26/17 at 11:02 pm
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I've spent a ton of time in Tuscaloosa, and know the spot you're talking about. Yet a quick read of your directions is confusing as frick even for me. Out of towners who've never been to T-Town before would be even more confused with that many turns.
He is talking about parking at Tuscaloosa Middle School. It is next to the university, technically in walking distance. Its on the very edge of university campus. Probably a 45 minute walk to stadium. Its very close to the student rec center (5 minute walk) and thats a central hub for campus transit during games.
re: For those who have been to Tuscaloosa
Posted by songbird on 10/26/17 at 10:53 pm
I'm from Tuscaloosa. Don' shoot me. I go to school at LSU.
I'm focusing on places that are either on the strip or in downtown area which is walking distance from the strip. This means you basically can just hop from place to place.
Best Sports Bar : Will Hagens. Lots of seating, pool tables, interesting food menu.
Best Cocktails : Alcove or Catch 22 (Downtown Area). Probably less game day bar. Surin a Thai restaraunt is probably the best place for cocktails on the Strip, believe it or not. Especially if Joey is behind the bar.
Best place for Beers : Loosa Brews. Avenue Pub. Avenue Pub has pretty good food. There burger is up there.
Club Atmostphere : Rounders, Galletes. Latter is a Frat Kid/Sorority kid hang out. Of course game day is more diverse.
College Crowd : Innesfree ('Irish' pub), 1831, Copper Top, Moes. Mostly for cheap beer. These are college spots normally, they are more known for serving staples. Innesfree has a ton of space its where the crowd would be.
Downtown Pub - Less of a college atmostphere lots of space.
Grey Lady - Martins and Beer. Its a middle ground place.
Barbecue : Archibalds in Northport or the Original Dream Land. True hole in the wall BBQ experiences. If you want more of a sit down fare, there is Jim and Nicks.
Sea Food : Chuck's Fish. Dinner Only. Its expensive (30-50$), but they get fish fresh daily from destin. They are part of a family of restaraunts around the south that is affiliated with a fish market there. The restaraunts all have different names, but nearly all are best in area.
Moderate Down Town Area restaraunts : 5 Bar. They only do 5 dishes. Owend by people who own Chuck's fish.
Side By Side is a Chris Hasting's restaraunt. Its not as good as his Birmingham Restaurants though. Personally I'd skip, but some people like it.
301 Bistro Beer Garden- Skip. Mediocre fine dining.
R Davidson chop house- This is a place for a group and not a couple. Sides etc are all meant to be shared.
Animal Butter- They do eccentric Asian/Mexican fusion. Really creative mostly farm fresh menu. Around 10$.
Post Office Pies for Pizza and Beer.
Cravings - Specialty Grocery that does New York Style Bagels. I think they actually get their Bagels from New York.
Rama Jama's for a burgers, chicken fingers that kinda thing.
Guthrie's - Zaxby's and Canes both are knockoffs of this place (true story). Canes is better imo. The Box (Plate) Combo, No Slaw, Extra Toast started here.
Breakfast:
Holler and Dash- Creative take on Southern Breakfast, around 10-12$
Waysider : traditional southern breakfast.
Another Broken Egg is also there.
Coffee : Monarch Espresso Bar is similar to Mag Pie or French Truck Coffee. All Alabama roasters. Right next to the Alcove
Starbucks Style Coffee shops :
Heritage House (Baked Goods are Amazing), Eidelweiss (German Bakery), O'henry (starbucks).
I'm focusing on places that are either on the strip or in downtown area which is walking distance from the strip. This means you basically can just hop from place to place.
Best Sports Bar : Will Hagens. Lots of seating, pool tables, interesting food menu.
Best Cocktails : Alcove or Catch 22 (Downtown Area). Probably less game day bar. Surin a Thai restaraunt is probably the best place for cocktails on the Strip, believe it or not. Especially if Joey is behind the bar.
Best place for Beers : Loosa Brews. Avenue Pub. Avenue Pub has pretty good food. There burger is up there.
Club Atmostphere : Rounders, Galletes. Latter is a Frat Kid/Sorority kid hang out. Of course game day is more diverse.
College Crowd : Innesfree ('Irish' pub), 1831, Copper Top, Moes. Mostly for cheap beer. These are college spots normally, they are more known for serving staples. Innesfree has a ton of space its where the crowd would be.
Downtown Pub - Less of a college atmostphere lots of space.
Grey Lady - Martins and Beer. Its a middle ground place.
Barbecue : Archibalds in Northport or the Original Dream Land. True hole in the wall BBQ experiences. If you want more of a sit down fare, there is Jim and Nicks.
Sea Food : Chuck's Fish. Dinner Only. Its expensive (30-50$), but they get fish fresh daily from destin. They are part of a family of restaraunts around the south that is affiliated with a fish market there. The restaraunts all have different names, but nearly all are best in area.
Moderate Down Town Area restaraunts : 5 Bar. They only do 5 dishes. Owend by people who own Chuck's fish.
Side By Side is a Chris Hasting's restaraunt. Its not as good as his Birmingham Restaurants though. Personally I'd skip, but some people like it.
301 Bistro Beer Garden- Skip. Mediocre fine dining.
R Davidson chop house- This is a place for a group and not a couple. Sides etc are all meant to be shared.
Animal Butter- They do eccentric Asian/Mexican fusion. Really creative mostly farm fresh menu. Around 10$.
Post Office Pies for Pizza and Beer.
Cravings - Specialty Grocery that does New York Style Bagels. I think they actually get their Bagels from New York.
Rama Jama's for a burgers, chicken fingers that kinda thing.
Guthrie's - Zaxby's and Canes both are knockoffs of this place (true story). Canes is better imo. The Box (Plate) Combo, No Slaw, Extra Toast started here.
Breakfast:
Holler and Dash- Creative take on Southern Breakfast, around 10-12$
Waysider : traditional southern breakfast.
Another Broken Egg is also there.
Coffee : Monarch Espresso Bar is similar to Mag Pie or French Truck Coffee. All Alabama roasters. Right next to the Alcove
Starbucks Style Coffee shops :
Heritage House (Baked Goods are Amazing), Eidelweiss (German Bakery), O'henry (starbucks).
re: nevermind
Posted by songbird on 10/2/17 at 7:56 pm
LSU's alum will burn their school to the ground.
Video's punchline :
You expect us to compete with Ohio State and UCLA, when we spend less per student (factoring tuition, state money) than louisville not a flagship school... 1/3rd what Tennessee does.
I said it in another thread. LSU should raise their admissions standars to what Florida, Georgia, Austin, Alabama, UNC has (27+ ACT average) then maybe in 20 years they will have a smart alumni base. Right now their alumni thinks, head coaches grow on trees. Talent in Louisiana is plentiful and will come if LSU sucks. That flagship universities can run on budgets regional state schools and be competitive in any direction with the rest of the S.E.C.
To facilitate meaningful comparisons you have to know what your peers are doing. Right now we suck next to our peers.
Video's punchline :
You expect us to compete with Ohio State and UCLA, when we spend less per student (factoring tuition, state money) than louisville not a flagship school... 1/3rd what Tennessee does.
I said it in another thread. LSU should raise their admissions standars to what Florida, Georgia, Austin, Alabama, UNC has (27+ ACT average) then maybe in 20 years they will have a smart alumni base. Right now their alumni thinks, head coaches grow on trees. Talent in Louisiana is plentiful and will come if LSU sucks. That flagship universities can run on budgets regional state schools and be competitive in any direction with the rest of the S.E.C.
To facilitate meaningful comparisons you have to know what your peers are doing. Right now we suck next to our peers.
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