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re: Did LSU do something that we are unaware of?
Posted by studentsect on 9/8/26 at 4:38 pm to lostinbr
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My working theory is that the SEC is more trying to lay bigger-picture groundwork and create precedent that allows them to take some control back from the state courts. In that case I’d expect them to try to sanction LSU somehow to prove the point, but not actually seriously consider expulsion. Maybe that’s naive though.
I'm not saying you're wrong, because there people are stupid, but this is a terrible test case if that is their plan. They aren't even challenging the whole court order, only as it applies to certain players that they have arbitrarily decided broke some secret rules that were more important than the other rules. If you want to go to war on the TRO system, the Chambliss case would've been the one to do it, because it's a single fairly unique case involving a straight-forward application of the rules.
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re: Just to be clear if the lawsuit
Posted by studentsect on 9/8/26 at 4:25 pm to elprez00
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This is even worse as it very clearly and documentable-ly is picking and choosing which one they want to allow and which ones they don’t. Based on “reasons and 1st amendment.”
In a legal sense, you’re suing a member institution over something you’re allowing other members to do under the guise that you’re a voluntary membership and you can do whatever you want. When there are billions of dollars involved and anti-trust exemptions, that doesn’t work.
Yeah that's why I'm convinced that all of the people involved are just not very smart. I'm legitimately not sure that Sankey has a solid grasp of the various facts here, or what the judge has actually ordered. He definitely is not familiar with what being held in contempt means. Maybe he thinks the common definition applies and that it just means the judge will feel a lack of respect towards him.
re: Just to be clear if the lawsuit
Posted by studentsect on 9/8/26 at 3:51 pm to BallHawk
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Because, by that ruling, wouldn't it stand to reason that Chambliss is ineligible?
The SEC has taken the position that it is not bound by state court issued TROs but that it can choose to abide by them.
re: Judge Rules In Favor Of Athletes In LSU-SEC Eligibility Battle...Live Updates Inside
Posted by studentsect on 9/3/26 at 1:30 pm to Tornado Alley
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Did Chambliss sign a pro contract?
That's the focus of Wright and Harris and the LSU hearing today.
No, the focus of the hearing is whether SEC can prevent an "ineligible" player from playing if the NCAA has been enjoined from doing so. It's very relevant, because it means that the SEC is specifically permitting Chambliss to play rather than just going along with the NCAA in complying with the court order.
re: TBob Makes Some Good Points on the 5 for 5 Situation! Spoiler LSU IS RIGHT!
Posted by studentsect on 9/1/26 at 3:32 pm to The Eric
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re: TBob Makes Some Good Points on the 5 for 5 Situation! Spoiler LSU IS RIGHT!
Posted by studentsect on 9/1/26 at 3:32 pm to The Eric
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re: TBob Makes Some Good Points on the 5 for 5 Situation! Spoiler LSU IS RIGHT!
Posted by studentsect on 9/1/26 at 3:32 pm to The Eric
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I would assume that to participate in minicamps they have to sign some form of paperwork due to liability purposes... The NFL likely foots the bill for medical care if Joe Blow has his leg ripped off during a drill. Sounds like an agreement to exchange services... I will practice/play/tryout for your team, you will pay my medical bills if im injured.... sounds kind of like a form of a contract.
Also, by definition, you have to be a rookie in the NFL to participate (or up to five (5) veteran players) in the "Post-Draft Rookie Minicamp." These aren't just open tryouts, they are only available for players from the most recent "College Draft." This is all spelled out in the CBA.
re: TBob Makes Some Good Points on the 5 for 5 Situation! Spoiler LSU IS RIGHT!
Posted by studentsect on 9/1/26 at 3:06 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
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I'm not arguing it makes sense. I'm saying thats where the line has been drawn and every other school seems to be fine with that line.
That's where the line was drawn because other schools were fine with it being there. The Big 10 came up with an absurd definition that sounded tough but allowed its teams to roster all of the players that they wanted to roster and everyone just nodded along.
It's actually a pretty incredible marketing coup by the Big 10 that some LSU fans on an LSU website are taking the position that attending an NFL minicamp as an undrafted rookie free agent, something that has never been close to allowed, is somehow now an acceptable amateur activity.
re: This isn't a hill worth dying on....
Posted by studentsect on 8/26/26 at 5:25 pm to pelicanpride
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I understand what the situation is, but it’s much cleaner to simply say that we aren’t allowing former NFL players to come back to college. Once you enter the draft, you can’t come back. End of story. If you make an exception once, people will want an exception in the future. It used to be once you signed with an agent, you couldn’t come back. That was the universal rule, but with NIL everyone has an agent. There have to be some freaking rules to stop all of this insanity.
Ok but “once you enter you draft you can’t come back” is NOT the current rule. The current rule is “once you enter the draft and go undrafted and go to NFL minicamp you can come back, unless you make it beyond the first round of cuts.”
“It’s ok to try out for the NFL as long as you fail quickly” seems a much more problematic position than “class of 2022 guys who thought they were out of eligibility get a mulligan.”
re: This isn't a hill worth dying on....
Posted by studentsect on 8/26/26 at 4:27 pm to pelicanpride
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You can’t really believe that. Yes, he would. They all would. Once you set the precedent that it’s okay to get cut from the NFL and return to college, it’s difficult to roll it back. I understand what the SEC is doing. It’s sucks for those kids in the 2022 class.
It's really not that complicated. You just make a rule that states that any player with remaining college eligibility who attempts to play professional football forfeits any remaining eligibility. The whole issue this year is that these guys did not think they had any remaining eligibility at the time that they attempted to play professionally, and that is not a situation that is likely to be repeated.
re: Rookie minicamp is ok but a preseason camp is not?
Posted by studentsect on 8/26/26 at 2:13 pm to WaterLink
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Because other schools, including opponents we play this year, are benefitting and only the ones LSU has targeted are being blocked
It's wild to me that the Big 10 drafted its rules with arbitrary carve-outs to make sure that everyone that a Big 10 team wanted remained eligible and the SEC also drafted its rules with arbitrary carve-outs to make sure that everyone that a Big 10 team wanted remained eligible.
re: Rookie minicamp is ok but a preseason camp is not?
Posted by studentsect on 8/26/26 at 1:51 pm to dallastiger55
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Camp invite in the spring is way different from suiting up and playing in NFL preseason games and getting paid
Which players have previously participated in NFL mini-camp and then returned to school prior to this year?
re: Can anyone recommend a book about Jean Laffite..
Posted by studentsect on 5/18/26 at 11:26 am to tgrfan87
Definitely the Pirates Lafitte as suggested above.
Patriotic Fire by Winston Groom is very Battle of New Orleans centered but still good.
Patriotic Fire by Winston Groom is very Battle of New Orleans centered but still good.
re: Portal players plus
Posted by studentsect on 3/14/26 at 3:34 pm to Barrylsu
Dude said “southmore”
re: Eddie Albert dominating
Posted by studentsect on 3/1/26 at 5:27 pm to CDawson
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88-90 isn’t “barely college level”. If you can locate with that velocity you can beat anybody.
I guess you can quibble with semantics if you want, but in general I think “outside of the top 2 pitchers at an Ivy League school” and “barely college level” are roughly synonymous.
re: Eddie Albert dominating
Posted by studentsect on 3/1/26 at 2:11 pm to lsusteve1
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Rantz just said Alberts pitches are moving very well
I said “movement and/or speed.”
I just think it’s tough for our hitter to guess the correct pitch and still be off on the timing. We’ve got a bunch of dudes who are used to a certain rhythm, and it’s a problem for us when the pitcher is throwing a fastball and the batter is correctly thinking “fastball” but is still off because he needs to be thinking “fastball, but this guy sucks so I should probably be thinking change-up for timing purposes.”
re: Eddie Albert dominating
Posted by studentsect on 3/1/26 at 1:50 pm to JTA1985
LSU does ok with tier 1 pitching and crushes the next couple of tiers but struggles against guys with barely college-level arms that throw strikes. This has been the case for as long as I can remember, I’m guessing it’s because our batters are trained to expect more movement and/or velocity so every pitch from these rag arms is effectively off-speed.
re: Honest take on Nuss
Posted by studentsect on 2/2/26 at 9:12 pm to mike4lsu
He’s a 6, maybe 7, player that we were paying like a 9 or 10 who, mostly due to injury it seems, performed like a 3 or 4.
re: Did Matt Mauck have a Lisfranc injury in 2002?
Posted by studentsect on 2/2/26 at 9:09 pm to fallguy_1978
quote:I was a student at the time….what’s funny is I only vaguely remember the injury itself and had to look up the specifics, but I definitely remember arguing about the reasonableness of him being in the game.
I don't know how some of you remember this in detail almost 25 years later I vaguely remember Mauck getting hurt one season, and it wasn't because I was really young or anything. I was out of college and into my career at that age.
re: Looking for a good book on Jean Lafitte
Posted by studentsect on 2/2/26 at 3:11 pm to boxcarbarney
The Pirates Laffite by William C. Davis is good.
Patriotic Fire by Winston Groom is more specific to the Battle of New Orleans but also good.
Patriotic Fire by Winston Groom is more specific to the Battle of New Orleans but also good.
re: Did Matt Mauck have a Lisfranc injury in 2002?
Posted by studentsect on 2/2/26 at 11:28 am to biglego
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I don’t know, but I remember us k kneeling the ball against ole Miss in 2011 with like 10 mins left
It was 5 minutes left (which is still a lot). I can't tell who was QB on the FG drive before that one (that started at 12:52) because it was all runs, but I think Mett only got the last drive and Lee/Jefferson were still playing in the first part of the 4th quarter.
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