jakesnake66

"I haven't seen this posted but this is the first time he's has a good offer as far as I know. Corral is leaving. Considering his history, I would not be surprised if he leaves."

New here? After I posted that Durkin should be fired, I expressed that EXACT sentiment and got blistered for a 2nd time in a week. Really...just scroll down and you'll witness my evisceration. LOL. If I were Kiffin's agent I would be calling him every day screaming "Get the f*ck out of Oxford, MS!!"

Ole Miss fans are the absolute WORST on Earth. "WE" demand perfection but "we" won't even fill the 3rd smallest stadium in the SEC. WAY too many Ole Miss fans are victim of dads and uncles who drew their entire self-worth from the great Ole Miss teams of the early Vaught era. No matter that the Rebels have NEVER won a conference championship since....not to mention a (excuse me while I laugh) a National championship.

It's 10pm on a Saturday night. Ole Miss just squeaked out a win against the powerhouse known as "Vanderbilt University" I'm watching Lane Kiffin being interviewed. Seems I'm the ONLY person on this forum who has watched EVERY presser since Lane came to Oxford. So I'm qualified to say Kiffin has mentioned lack of fan supoort in EVERY presser he's been a part of. A 10-win season. A top-5 rushing offense. A LEGIT Heisman candidate playing in HIS LAST HOME GAME - not to mention the other great seniors who could have played for a REAL college program. Yet...as the cameras panned across tiny little VH stadium what do I see? HALF empty seats!! Lane Kiffin would be an absolute idiot to stay in Oxford - an insignificant little southern town whose arrogant, self-important, elitist "fans" demand greatness without doing ANYThING to warrant it. We couldn't even fill the grove when ESPN came to town without Katie Perry. Ole Miss doesn't deserve a great football program. Bring Matt Luke back.

"Something we all need to do is stop focusing on when he’s going to leave.
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Agreed."

I'm not trying to jump the gun, put out bad energy or anything like that. I simply was asking for what I got: counter-points to some of the arguments put forth by others regarding why Kiffin might consider other positions.

As to the comment that I'm speaking too soon about Altmyer, I'm just siding with the percentages. In OM's long and illustrious football history, the Rebs have never had a Heisman winner. We've had three third place finishers: Jake Gibbs (who I was named after, check my screen name), Archie, and Eli. Now we have a young man who is a front-runner. Statistically speaking, to follow a Heisman candidate with another QB at or very near Corral's abilities is unlikely. That's all I'm saying. Heck, Altmyer may become the greatest QB in OM history.

Regarding my comment about the receivers, the same principle applies. We've had such elite receivers over the past few years - from Laquon Treadwell to AJ Brown, DK Metcalf, Elijah Moore...and now Sanders, Mingo, and Drummond...not to mention under-utilized but supremely talented former Rebel and current NFL standout, Dawson Knox - that I think some OM fans just take having world class Rebel receivers for granted.

True, OM has some outstanding talent coming up - Jadon Jackson, Jalen Knox, and perhaps the best TE recruit OM has landed in years, Hudson Wolfe. But the past 5-6 years have just been unreal where receiving talent is concerned.

I almost hate to start this topic, but I REALLY want some feedback from people who are closer to the situation. I'm sure most of you have seen the lists of possible candidates for the LSU and USC head coaching jobs, so no doubt you've seen - as I have - that Lane Kiffin is mentioned in every one of them. Here are some reasons I think Kiffin will at least consider moving on:

First, Matt Corral is gone after this year. In TWO pressers I've seen Kiffin has stated in no uncertain terms that OM would not be 6-1 (10-2 last 12 games) without Corral. Altmyer was a great recruting win, but he's likely no Matt Corral.

Dontario Drummund and Braylon Sanders, gone. OM has some good receiving weapons coming on, but the Reb's days of possessing the nation's best receiving corps likely are gone for the immediate future.

Jake Springer, the key to the defensive improvement - gone.

LSU and USC are both national championship programs. Ole Miss is not.

Recruiting at LSU and USC is infinitely easier than at OM. No other in-state competition (for LSU) and national championship status.

Both schools can pay Kiffin more than OM.

No doubt his buddy Orgeron tried to influence Kiffin. He didn't want Kiffin to go to OM in the first place.

Here's a BIG one that most OM fans are overlooking: The OM fans are letting Kiffin down, big time. In almost every presser this season Kiffin has mentioned the lack of fan support. OM has a Heisman-level QB, one of the most effective and dynamic offenses in the nation, and a 6-1 record...and it took "Eli Manning Day" to finally fill up that dinky 64k seat stadium. Don't think Kiffin didn't notice the mayhem provided by 106k maniacal fans at Neyland. He'll also be aware of the insanity at Auburn this weekend. And he'll compare it to the low-energy atmosphere and empty seats at VH.

I got a bad feeling Monday when Kiffin mentioned Rebel fans expectations. He knows OM fans expect/demand excellence and many still act like it's 1959-60. Hell, I'm as guilty as anyone. I called for Durkin's head two weeks ago, LOL.

What do yall think? Can we keep Kiffin in Oxford?

First, I'd like to say CONGRATS to Durkin, Partridge, and all the defensive coaches and players for that incredible performance Sat night. They held a SUPER HOT offense to under 30 pts in the most hostile environment they will ever play in. As much as I'm a Durkin critic, I have no problem giving credit where it's due. At the end of the day I'm an OM fan who wants what's best for the team and fans.

Now...what did y'all think of that spot on 4th and 24? All I'll say is, at the time of the play, first look, I was absolutely certain TN had made a first down. In other words, I felt very fortunate when I saw the spot.

"So yeah... defensive talent on the team is very bad when 1/2 of that side are starting as 1st yr transfers and two of the rest are converted offensive players."

I'm not denying any of this. However, I still don't believe OM's talent is worse than 100 other FBS teams. [as of today the OM D is ranked 101 in total D].

As others have noted, it's tragic that at a time when OM has a legit Heisman contender, the 2nd ranked offense in the nation, as well as the 5th ranked rushing game, we can't field a defense that allows us to take advantage. It's entirely reasonable to speculate that Ole Miss will NEVER field an offense this good again - ever. Matt Corral is a multi-generational QB, and in 7 games from now he's GONE.

"We just beat the #13 team in the nation. Maybe take at least a day to enjoy it before you start bitching. Geez."

I REALLY understand and appreciate this POV. I really do. I don't mean to pee on the parade. BUT...Rebel fans seem to celebrate ANY victory, no matter what it took and how small the margin. And that's why mediocrity is hired and allowed to stay. Ole Miss hired Lane Kiffin as a gesture to winning championships. Yet they tolerate a defensive coaching crew that is literally a national embarrassment. I'll keep saying it: DJ Durkin "coached" a defense to 124 out of 125 FBS teams. Georgia Southern held AR to fewer points than OM. Last week AR didn't score ONE point. Ole Miss allowed Arkansas to score MORE points than the best team in the land, Alabama - AT HOME. Matt Corral played his heart out and had to risk life and limb to eek out a meager victory. Keep in mind, AR missed a short field goal and fumbled deep in OM territory. Ole Miss did NOT "win" this game. Arkansas came to VH stadium, put a whooping on the OM defense, and then LOST the game. The OM defense is not worthy to be in the SEC. And I refuse to believe it's because OM has the crappiest talent in the SEC. That's a JOKE. If OM fans don't demand change, there will be none. At some point the DC can't blame "talent" on pathetic performances, yet that's what our esteemed Mr. Durkin implies. He was a LOSER at every school he's ever coached. His players DESPISED him. He left Maryland under all kind of controversy, yet someone in Oxford was convinced he was "the guy." Let's stop trying to put lipstick on a pig. You want a REAL national program or a middle of the pack pretender? Personally, I'm not celebrating ANYTHING tonight other than Lane's comments at the end of the game that indicate he's had enough of Durkin's crap.

Oh...man...what a depressing performance. But I was very encouraged by Lane's comments right after the game. He mentioned "as bad as a defense can play," and he waved off any suggestion that the defense had "stopped" Arkansas. Kiffin acknowledged that it wasn't a "stop" as much as it was poor execution on the Hogs' part. I was really encouraged that Lane seemed completely fed up with how pathetic Durkin's defense is. DJ Durkin has never been a winner, and he left Maryland under a cloud of controversy, yet someone in Oxford thought he would a good hire - even after scores of former players stated that Durkin was a bad person and an even worse coach. Just Google it. It is SO unfair to players like Corral and the Rebs O line to have to score 50+ points just to eek out a victory. If I were advising a 5 star prospect like Arch Manning, for example, I'd say, "young man...whatever you do...do NOT waste your time at a place like Ole Miss where the admins don't care enough to suppport you with the best defensive minds Mississippi money can buy. Go to a school where mediocrity simply isn't accepted."

Trying not to rant. Just trying to express my views in the hopes that others will see the same things and perhaps some momentum can build to force Ole Miss admin to go out there and hire the BEST coaching talent possible. DJ Durkin just ain't it.

Everyone is focusing on the passing D. Does no one see the QBs and RBs running through the Rebel D like it's made of paper? The damage isn't being done in the air; it's on the ground. MASSIVE holes everywhere. Almost ZERO outside containment at all. This isn't about how much time the QB has to throw. It's about a defense so horrible coached that they don't stay in position, and when they are in position they can't make the tackle. I guess I'm seeing something no one else is. The Rebel D sucks and it's NOT all about talent.

Whoever ends up following Corral will be a grave disappointment.

I'm guessing optimism isn't your strong suit. LOL.

Not much to go on in judging the quality of the backups, but does anyone have a sense for the level of optimism (or not) about these guys? One over the other?

Also, I'm sure this has been discussed before, but does anyone know why Altmyer didn't seriously consider State, given he's a Starkville native and his dad is the ortho for the team??