themasterpater

Do you or anyone here try the KLOW blend from them? Does it sting?

Eh I ordered from arpovo and got it. Now granted I damn near threw the hospira away because it was wrapped in the brown paper that just looks like packing filling and the wipes were in boxes. Wouldn't have noticed except I tossed the paper on the ground and heard a thunk...went oh frick it's in there

Kinda random, since you know the guy at Lioncore...how does his BAC water compare to Hospira?

Is she trying to talk like basketball people lol.

fricking preach. And women like to blame men as emotionally unavailable, yet refuse to look in the mirror and take accountability.

You say he's not afraid, and then say

"He is definitely afraid to tell his wife"

Maybe start by asking him why he can't talk about it, or what he's scared of.

Even if you knew what happened it may help explain things, but that's not the actual road block. The road block is what he is scared will happen if he lets contact back in. If you can solve that you have a chance.

What's the backstory?

Is your mom truly innocent?

I'm sure your sibling isn't completely innocent.

Toxic relationships tend to spread outward, even though the two in the toxic relationship seem to think it's only confined to them, and have next to zero self awareness of how it's affecting others.

With that being said, most children who turn on their parents at some point have some history of childhood trauma from said parents.

Not saying that's what's happening, but could be. Maybe your brother is just an a-hole, but that wouldn't be news if so, this behavior would have been old news.

You may be expecting people to operate out of your emotional intelligence bandwidth, when they simply don't have that.

**Edit - just putting the below on first page, may actually help someone other than OP. Family and relationships frick more than one person up. **

Sounds like your brother's wife is toxic, some form of an attention seeking individual, maybe narcissistic or adjacent. Your brother, hate to say it, sounds kinda weak for letting it slide. He hides his weakness behind the notion of trying to keep his immediate family together. You see the same shite with women who stay with toxic douchebag aholes...."but I love him, I don't want to cause pain or blow anything up"....no you're just using those excuses as a reason to hide and stay small.

With that being said I've seen moms and dads say things to their kids "out of care" and it's nothing more than an insult disguised as "guidance". Then when consequences come, parents act like they have "no idea" where it comes from. Nobody owes their parents access to their lives just because they're parents. Parents are people too, maybe good people, maybe shitty people.

Your mom probably said something. Something halfway benign, keyword halfway. Your brother and his spouse probably took it as a shot at their family, and now cut her off. Your mom may be pretending she has no idea, but she probably has some idea. A lot of people will say "I never meant to hurt you" sounds nice, but that's kinda like saying "my bad, I didn't mean to 3rd degree burn you"...then take zero accountability for the damage they did, they only track their intentions, not actual impact to the other person.

Your mom may have burned them. Your brother and wife may have over reacted. Your brother may not have the strength to do what it takes, stand up to both mom and wife. Avoidance is easier for people short term. It puts the load on surrounding loved ones, then eventually that payment comes due....which sounds soon on your end.

Brands change logos all the time, I'm sure they will revise, improve, and move on.

Lol