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It doesn't take ten years for engineers to be worth a damn. Call me snot nosed. I think you're bitter and old. Thanks for correcting me on Redstone and explaining a government department that you don't work for. They don't fire them because of all the bs with politicians promising defense contracts for campaign support.
I have literally had a red stone arsenal engineer tell me the biggest decision he has to make every day is what he wants to have for lunch. Just admit defeat. I thought this was a résumé challenge? Here you are piggybacking people you are acquaintances with? The whole point was that you use random hearsay to back your claims and to devalue Alabama's success in various rankings and articles. You cite the opinion of hs guidance counselors and government engineers. I try to explain to you how that's not a valid thing to do, since it is a few people's opinions. I also then explain that even if it were a valid thing, they are opinions from people that I don't value that highly, especially hs guidance counselors. You then attack me personally and say I design lawn mower parts, which is ridiculous. Then, you propose this résumé challenge. After I kick your arse in that, you just spew some more fricking nonsense.
So you use hearsay from DOD engineers and you aren't even a DOD engineer yourself? I don't work for an engineering firm; I work for a large chemical company. I've done preliminary design for an overseas distillation column (proved it would be an unprofitable multimillion investment), done around $200,000 of capital project management, done heat transfer analysis that has saved ~$50,000, and am currently working on trying to improve the way we produce one of our products across the company, and that's 9 months of work. Yeah, my education was bs.
Just post your accolades already. You're so worried that Alabama is becoming the clearly better institution, that you delusionally attack everything relating to their success. Article after article, ranking after ranking. You even go as far as sighting fricking hs guidance counselors. You are a perfect example of a dumbarse Auburn graduate. You will probably post some stupid remark, trying to come off smug and witty.

If you remember, the reason why NASA was even brought up is because you tried to use hearsay to validate auburn's superiority.
You were the one who started talking shite first, saying I designed lawn mower parts. You can go on with it, or admit you're delusional about Auburn and Alabama and your degree.
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Resume challenge. I accept.


Haha go on with it then.
Keep telling yourself I design lawn mower parts to make yourself feel better. I do far more advanced and challenging things already than you probably have your whole career. Keep telling yourself Alabama isn't a good school so people believe you're smarter.
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At the length some of you are going to to try and rationalize this.
Irons puppet and NYCAuburn are obviously worried about Alabama's rise. Let's try every way possible to diminish anything good about Alabama not related to athletics. I mean, the hs counselors told me auburn is great. The hs counselors.
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It's a money thing. They've made it known that if you are a National Merit Semifinalist you get auto admit and scholarship.


I hope you don't think this is a bad thing. Really, the thing most bizarre to me about Alabama's success is why it isn't being copied to the T. They're raising their reputation, making loads of money, and educating people. What a horrible thing they're doing. How dare they give merit based incentives to people who should actually be in college. I think it's really refreshing that there are still some merit based things taking place in the world.
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Yes there has, but there has been some blind homerism as well. The truth lies in the middle ground.


I really think you have some sort of mental disorder.
Aren't their scholarships for law school only for the first year and then you have to be top ~10% or something to maintain it? Alabamas law school doesn't have to throw money to get good students. It's one of the best law schools in the country, and is the best public law school in the southeast.
There is so much bs in this thread. Alabama is just aggressively recruiting, has a great football team and Greek life, is rapidly expanding their already beautiful campus. They aren't throwing scholarship money at anyone. :rotflmao: at all you dipshites that think individual departments are giving out huge scholarships. Only great students are getting free tuition and the like. The length some of you go to disprove the academic and general success of alabama is truly pathetic.

And for all you idiots that say alabama has just started letting anyone in, their average entering class act score has risen each year. Every year I was at Bama was record attendance, record Gpa, and record act average. Alabama has just been kicking arse lately. People credit Sabah a lot, but Dr. Witt has got to be one of the best unjversity presidents/chancellors to ever hold the title. Guy deserves his own statue.

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Posted by rtr2013 on 6/5/14 at 9:39 pm
It's better than hearsay. Also, from experience, any of the jobs gotten through an on campus interview already have the salaries listed and automatically update upon a student taking an offer. Therefore, less people are able to falsify salaries, which I wouldn't have reason to believe many do to begin with. How far will you go to make anything relating to alabama academic success null?

Those dumbass recent graduates probably understand how stupid it is to bring the opinion of a hs guidance counselor into a discussion.

re: Best paying degrees/colleges

Posted by rtr2013 on 6/5/14 at 9:15 pm
Better engineers that want to do defense work go to places like Raytheon and KBR, private industries where people's performance actually matters. I see you ignored the facilities explanation. You can't actually believe your hearsay is better than recent graduate surveys having >1000 responses. :rolleyes:
Did you not read the definition of anecdotal? Do you need an alabama graduate to draw a picture? That data is readily available on the schools website in their career sections. Again, the paranoia that Alabama manipulates data to better themselves runs rampant with an auburn grad. Do you think if you spew enough bs people will just believe it, or are you actually crazy enough to believe it yourself? Seriously, you're trying to use a hs guidance Counselors opinion to detract from alabamas high starting salaries? How do you think this is reasonable?

re: Best paying degrees/colleges

Posted by rtr2013 on 6/5/14 at 6:09 pm
Yeah well this whole thread has been about recent salaries. I mean what you are saying makes complete sense but this whole thread has been about recent graduate salaries so I figured guy was referring to that. Either way, it still holds true. Where has he heard the facilities comments? I mean, it's totally only possible that auburn isn't ranked higher because fricking brilliant professors from mit can't handle the souths second best engineering school....

re: Best paying degrees/colleges

Posted by rtr2013 on 6/5/14 at 5:59 pm
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I knew a guy that told me Clemson had a far superior Vet School than AU, it happen to be the school that he could get in. I work for the Government, and AU is highly recognized as one of the best engineering schools in the South (behind GT). What has hurt AU Engineering in the past are their facilities. That has changed recently.


Anecdotal: (of an account) not necessarily true or reliable, based on personal accounts rather than facts or research.

Seriously, how are all auburn graduates indoctrinated to behave like this? How are you so naive? Have you ever left the state of Alabama? Also, btw, most engineers that work for government are lousy, just like everyone else who works for government. Counselors and highly regarded government praise of auburn (as confirmed by dip shite irons puppet) totally beat recent graduate surveys in reliability... There are four engineering schools in the sec ranked higher than auburn by usnews. I'm sure you'll argue that usnews is shite but four schools? How do you think random bs hearsay is proof of auburn's vast superiority in engineering? I've heard that alabama engineers are usually the managers in the government engineering positions in Huntsville? I've seriously heard this before. Does it make it true? Absolutely freaking not. I know a guy that just graduated from auburn with an aerospace engineering degree that can't find a job? How do you explain that? I guess blame Obama? He probably is tight with alabama students since he's seen so much of Saban recently right? The rec at its finest.

: :rolleyes:

Where the frick is NYC to b**** about how he's pulling stuff from his arse? Please explain the facilities comment. I would love to know how you know auburn graduates were getting paid less because their facilities were lacking. Do tell. If it starts off with, "I know someone," or "I heard," or "when I was fricking my wife, I mean guidance counselor, ugh," then please go blow your brains out.

re: Best paying degrees/colleges

Posted by rtr2013 on 6/4/14 at 11:28 am
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You really cant make this shite up.



Well I guess you can, as you did.


Do you not see how its delusional when you make shite up? Do you know what the term delusional means?


Ugh,
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"Spring 2011 semester, 2,256 students received the email, with 754
responding. In summer 2011 semester, 818 graduating seniors were emailed, with 291
responding. Reminder messages were sent two weeks out from each initial email. In total, the
exit survey for the 2010 academic year resulted in responses from 1,458 students, for a response
rate of 34.5%."

I was thinking in terms of one semester in my inital estimate, which came to be 900 responses. Auburn's actual report says they got 818 responses just for engineering at the end of one semester. And look, their average came out to be $54,884 as the website clearly shows, which would have been last place on the inital link's ranking. So, my estimate was conservative, as I intended for it to be. In conclusion, since you're slow, the data is even more accurate than I "made up" and Auburn didn't place on the list.

re: Best paying degrees/colleges

Posted by rtr2013 on 6/4/14 at 9:42 am
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Did they do that? there is your flaw. and you contiue to jump all over the place with your logic

Yes, they used recent college grad surveys from Auburn and Alabama. These both would provide about 900 answers with a 30% respondent rate. What don't you understand.

re: Best paying degrees/colleges

Posted by rtr2013 on 6/4/14 at 9:31 am
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You are correct. Larger Schools Councelors are responsible for getting kids money they would not normally find. I know a local HS top 5 graduates who recieved scholarships from Harvard, Princeton, Georgetown, Vandy and Auburn. They all credited the "baby sitters" counselors for working the details out. Again, unless you were home schooled, you opinion is not the norm.

:rotflmao: still trying to defend guidance counselors. Everyone knows they don't do shite and their opinion is hardly better than any random person off of the street. At both Auburn and Alabama, you get the right ACT and GPA. You apply. They offer your their predefined scholarships. No guidance counselor needed.

re: Best paying degrees/colleges

Posted by rtr2013 on 6/4/14 at 9:28 am
It's flawed that taking recent grad surveys for 900 or so students is an objective way to measure the highest paying degrees/colleges between two different schools? Really, that's delusional? But, referring to some random guidance counselor hearesay is a reasonable and valid argument? Your defense to me pointing this out is that I'm projecting? I seriously, no projection lmao, don't get how you think this isn't freaking delusional.