Freauxzen

Pau Gasol or Oded Fehr

Why do people go to "something unsavory" with Roberts?

The guy looks like a goober, and they saw how Doug made absolutely no impact on Kamala's campaign.

If she is going to run, they are going to pair her with some good looking, successful and potentially with kids so she can play mom. Book it.

Pure evil.


Honestly, I just don't understand "moderate" Democrats or how and why they exist. Or they can still be Democrats. That's why all of the things like this have to be laid at their feet.

The true liberal. The one who believe in Freedom "I think??), who genuinely wants to help people. Who looks at the poor and downtrodeen and has empathy. Doesn't mind some government funding to protect people. To get us out of wars. To try to have immigration laws, but allow for probably more immigration than a conservative.

Why do you support this?

I'd love to hear the reasons.


Look there are things I don't want to support that Republicans typically go for. But many of them are pretty minor, or at least are generally inconsequential, so I put up with it.

But this? It's just the purest form of evil there is.

That's definitely a good one

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I am amused when you all try to separate this from the actual church.

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I'll admit it's hard to, but it's not "run" by the Church. It's run by a federation attached to the Church. And CCUSA is a further arm of that.

And like most grand scale non-profit orgs, it's bloated, has different interests than the church, etc.

I know a lot of Catholic who straight up avoid giving to anything connect to CCUSA.

As a staunch Catholic along with Champagne, I'll jump in and take the heat here.

1. SOME form of immigration non-profit services can be handled by churches. And they SHOULD have access to government grants like any other 503c. All of the comments in here limiting that are totally wrong on this point. It's how are non-profit systems are built, and they did work when limited.

2. There's no such thing as a human lead organization that limits itself - it's just not a function of how things operate. As soon as expansion is allowed, all human endeavors expand into open space.

3. Churches, while they shouldn't be, are no stranger to that phenomenon.

4. It's not the churches fault the shackles were taken off - and THEN people with even bigger motivations to twist the system - did so. It's often not priests and monks who run these parts of Churches - it's lay people.(There are corrupt everything, in every organization).

5. Churches should, and kind of have to, help anyone and everyone. That's part of what they should do. They shouldn't politically influence that or put other people at risk, but that's such a hard stance to take at scale, it just never makes sense. Someone seeking help gets help, regardless of what is done around that, the core value of most Christian churches is always to help.

6. Yes, they helped themselves too much and this should all be shut down, and immigration grants should be HIGHLY controlled and limited. Really all grants.

7. Don't bring up Catholic Charities. We all hate that abomination of an organization. I do not give money to them.

That's an interesting study of female psychology in 30 min. :lol:

Second time I'll say it today:

Democrats love killing babies.

All of them.


Will any democrat poster here speak up?

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dodged the shot, but got covid once.

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You got the Flu of 2020 or 2021? You're fine.

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Why do our beliefs and goals have to be to tied to individual people?

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Because that's the easiest way to create visible "teams," and keep people divided.

I'd take it further. I've always told this story about my old neighborhood in Salt Lake. Was probably 20-25% Mormon given Salt Lake, so not super heavy. 2017. Super friendly neighborhood. Got together for events in general. No political signs out. Flags out at 4th of July, Veterans and Memorial Day. People were friendly, open, etc. Just a nice upper middle class neighborhood in Salt Lake. Almost no election signs, people kept that stuff private.



Then the California Democrats moved in with their signs. Pride flags. "Love is Love" "In this house we believe," The Star Wars woman one. BLM, etc. This was right in the Middle of COVID. Peace. Only like 3 families. They started doing Pride events and like that - to fit in, everything went weird. Suddenly Pride signs and flags during pride month. More people with BLM signs, even after the riots. Less friendliness. Less neighborhood get togethers. More division. The Democrat would go house to house for causes and if you were that guy - that was me - you were an outcast real fast. "Do you support this progressive candidate," no. DO you support BLM? No. Can we put this Pride flag in your yard - actually they didn't ask for this one, they just walked around putting Pride flags in people's yards. ALL holidays replaced with pride-friendly events. Then every election season we went from virtually NO election signs to 30-50% of houses having election signs. It was crazy strange how fast you had to join a team.


And I know a lot of people in that neighborhood participated to be "neighborly" and not for any other reason. But it became divisive real quick. A few of us noticed the change and talked about it openly. I kept my yard clear, and started leaving my American flag out basically all year long.

Just nuts. When I say the Democrats are the party of division, I watched it happen real time. It was a disease reshaping a neighborhood piece by piece.