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Posted on 8/3/18 at 2:32 pm
Posted by Sancho Panza
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Posted on 8/3/18 at 2:32 pm
Posted by DoreonthePlains
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Posted on 8/4/18 at 2:50 pm to
Wish I was shocked. Not at all.
Posted by Sancho Panza
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Posted on 8/4/18 at 4:11 pm to
Glad to see staying on Campus.
Posted by Athanatos
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 8/8/18 at 10:51 am to
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Glad to see staying on Campus.


Now that's some glass half-full perspective.
Posted by DoreonthePlains
Auburn, AL
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 8/8/18 at 11:32 am to
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Now that's some glass half-full perspective.



Okay, folks, let's be honest. How much worse than other SEC stadiums are the in-stadium amenities for the average fan? South Carolina has trough urinals that splash your feet. Neyland's concessions and restrooms are the same or worse than ours. Every SEC stadium that I've been to has been essentially the same just as Vanderbilt Stadium, just bigger and that includes Auburn, Ole Miss, Missouri, Tennessee, and South Carolina. The difference in our stadium and others is size and the big, fancy "club" levels for big spenders.

With that said, there are some upgrades to be made. Maybe they do something about widening the concourses by taking out the sidewalk on the stadium side of 25th Ave and moving the fence to the road (or at least closer to it). The concession stands could probably use some equipment upgrades. None of those things are going to wow recruits and improve the team though. The things Vandy can reasonably due to impress recruits are about other facilities and have nothing to do with the stadium.

The real issue here is how the powers that be are always pushing football projects back. We were told work on the stadium was in the works then the MLS idiocy came up. Thankfully that folly was squashed, but, now, it appears the stadium upgrades have been put on the back burner.
Posted by InThroughTheOutDore
Middle TN
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Posted on 8/8/18 at 1:53 pm to
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We were told work on the stadium was in the works then the MLS idiocy came up. Thankfully that folly was squashed, but, now, it appears the stadium upgrades have been put on the back burner.


I'm not so certain that we have heard the last of the shared stadium idea, fwiw. But to put the stadium upgrades in perspective, I was still in the marching band the last time they did a major upgrade and I graduated a looooong time ago.
Posted by DoreonthePlains
Auburn, AL
Member since Nov 2013
7436 posts
Posted on 8/8/18 at 2:24 pm to
Don't get me wrong. I'm all for upgrades and stuff. I just hate the argument that our current stadium is holding us back in recruiting. The only thing about it that holds us back is that it is TINY compared to other SEC stadiums, and that's not really a fixable problem because if it's any bigger we'll just have more empty seats and/or more opposing fans, which also will not help in recruiting. I can somewhat see an argument that a nicer stadium will attract more casual fans but not enough to pay for the upgrades or to grow the "fan base" enough to impress recruits (or maybe I should say "be less negative to recruits"). The stadium is not a problem for the on-field product, but it could use some work to enhance the fan experience.
Posted by Sancho Panza
La Habaña, Cuba
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Posted on 8/8/18 at 3:06 pm to
Put real grass back in; plastic can & will be used against you in a court of recruiting.
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 8/8/18 at 3:42 pm to
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Now that's some glass half-full perspective.


Optimist = glass half full
Pessimist = glass half empty
Engineer = "You are using the wrong sized glass"
Posted by DoreonthePlains
Auburn, AL
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 8/8/18 at 3:46 pm to
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Put real grass back in; plastic can & will be used against you in a court of recruiting.



Is this really still a thing? I feel like the gap in injuries between turf and real grass has basically gone away. I could be wrong...and even if I'm not perception can still have influence when it's not reality.
Posted by Sancho Panza
La Habaña, Cuba
Member since Sep 2014
8161 posts
Posted on 8/8/18 at 6:57 pm to
Treadwell injury, AUburn @ Mississippi 2014, caused the Wowdy Webels to switch back to real grass.

Of course, I understand it is much more expensive to cultivate grass, Vs. cost of plastic, divided by years of serviceable life.
Posted by DoreonthePlains
Auburn, AL
Member since Nov 2013
7436 posts
Posted on 8/8/18 at 7:52 pm to
Really not sure that injury was due to turf. His foot got caught up under the Auburn player.

Also, that's one injury. Freak injuries happen on grass, too. I did a little digging, and it appears that the total number of injuries seems to be even or actually in turf's favor. However, there does seem to be a higher number of ACL injuries on turf than grass.
Posted by Sancho Panza
La Habaña, Cuba
Member since Sep 2014
8161 posts
Posted on 8/8/18 at 11:00 pm to
Prolly not caused by Turf, but, maybe was good enough for Mississippi; that, & the fact that it was used against them in recruiting.

Plastic is being used against ArKansas (both Stadia), Missouri, Kentucky, & Vanderbilt.

Vanderbilt & Kentucky had such beautiful grass, too.
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 8/9/18 at 3:55 am to
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Kentucky had such beautiful grass, too.


Problem is late fall weather in CKY is about 10 to 30 degrees cooler that the rest of the SEC so by the second week of October and the month of November it goes dead and looks bad.

I would much rather they stayed with real grass but I get why they did it.

They still grow some of the best grass tho in the Daniel Boone National Forest.
Posted by Sancho Panza
La Habaña, Cuba
Member since Sep 2014
8161 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 7:39 am to
Hire the guy from Mickey can Skate.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54595 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 3:26 pm to
I googled Mickey can Skate. This is what I got. What am I missing?

(or did you mean Mickey Mouse)

Posted by Sancho Panza
La Habaña, Cuba
Member since Sep 2014
8161 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 3:37 pm to
Michigan State.

They are capable of growing football turf that stays green; even in late November.
Posted by Sancho Panza
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Member since Sep 2014
8161 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 3:43 pm to
Posted by DoreonthePlains
Auburn, AL
Member since Nov 2013
7436 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 3:44 pm to
Or you could give up on something that is really a non-issue? I'd prefer real grass, but unless there is real evidence to support that recruits are anti-turf then I'm not going to care.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54595 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 4:09 pm to
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They are capable of growing football turf that stays green; even in late November.


Well, truth be told, hemp grows really well in KY. I always envisioned UK developing something like this...

(dammnit, just googled the Carl Spackler turf seen from Caddyshack and it is age restricted)
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