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AlaCowboy
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2019 FOOTBALL
What does your new QB look like? I know you have a top RB, but what does it look like behind him?
I like your WR and TE. They should make some plays for you.

I expect your defense will be good as usual. Your offense last year was needing more oomph. Maybe the new QB can provide it.
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InThroughTheOutDore
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What does your new QB look like?


We'll let you know once we know who won the job. Not sure yet if it will be Deuce Wallace or Riley Neal. Neal is a redshirt senior who transferred to VU after 3+ years at Ball State. Wallace is a redshirt junior who was suspended all last season for a violation of university policy. He got some garbage-time snaps in 2017 as Shurmur's backup, but that was it. Wallace is the better runner, Neal is the better passer (completed 60 percent of his passes at Ball State, throwing for 7393 yards, 46 touchdowns, and 25 interceptions against mostly MAC competition).


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I saw Neal in a couple of games over the last few years. I think he will fill the job if you have a decent run game to slow tha pass rush.


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DoreonthePlains
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Without seeing more of Deuce, I can't be TOO sure, but I think he is just as accurate, or at least comparably so, as Neal. The difference seems to be that Neal's arm is stronger than Wallace's.

I think it will be Neal. Mason has been trying a little too hard to pump up Wallace. Although, I really would love if Deuce won the job. He was incredible about helping recruit more guys to Vandy once he committed. Whatever the issue was last year (probably grades), he seems like a great guy.

My general feeling on the QB spot is comfortable. I'm not necessarily excited, but I think Neal is at worst a game manager who can play smart football and do enough to let Lipscomb, Pinkney, and Vaughn do their thing. Wallace beating out Neal just says we should have even better than that.


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DoreonthePlains
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I expect your defense will be good as usual.


You must have missed that Vandy set a record in 2017 for most points per game allowed (43.25) in SEC play. I'm sure there is some "since 1960s" clarification. Even with only allowing 13 points in the first three games COMBINED, the team averaged 31.3 against for the season, which ranked 89th in the country. 2018 was much better, finishing the year 61st in points per game allowed with 26.6 points per game. They also "only" allowed 29.375 points per game against SEC opposition.

The problem will be replacing Joejuan Williams. I think the other losses are pretty replaceable in theory, and the DL should be much better. Though it is probably a unit in a similar place to UGA's defense last year. There are only 2 players on Vanderbilt's entire defensive depth chart (32 players listed) who will graduate. Only 1 other player really has any hope of leaving early for the draft with a monster year.


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The Winner
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Sick of seeing dumb people putting Vanderbilt as the worst team in the SEC. They at worst should be Preseason power ranked at 11th ahead of Tennessee, Ole Miss, and Arkansas. As we all saw last year, Vanderbilt is a superior program to all 3.

There is a path for Vanderbilt to get to another bowl

1. Win all 3 winnable NC Games
2. Win at Ole Miss and at Tennessee(yes these are both road games but Vanderbilt is superior to both)
3. Win vs Kentucky, South Carolina, or Purdue (honestly all 3 of these could be wins but they are all slightly better than Ole Miss or Tennessee imo)

If Missouri and KB flops that could be another possibility. But yes drawing LSU from the West sucks and Georgia to start off the season is brutal but hey who knows Vanderbilt upset UGA a few years ago I suppose.

Anyways obviously losing Shumer who I was a fan of hurts, but the possibilities are still here this season imo.


AlaCowboy
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I don't put down Vanderbilt. I like Mason and I like to see the Commodores win, except when playing Georgia, of course. I don't follow recruiting like others do so I feel the best place to ask questions about Vanderbilt is here.
I'm just trying to get a feel for what the game Saturday will be like. We'll be in town Friday and will be at the game.


DoreonthePlains
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Enjoy the city. Have fun. But my God, some of the UGA fans in 2017 were the worst I've ever encountered. I've gone to games at Neyland and had plenty of other fan bases flood Vanderbilt Stadium. It was absurd though. I know MOST Georgia fans aren't like that. I just hate having a game experience ruined by shitty visiting fans. I get it. You outnumber us in our own stadium. Cool. When you (general, not directed at AlaCowboy) start being a douche about it, it's pathetic. Yes, more pathetic than the Vanderbilt fans not showing up.

Sorry, not sorry about the rant. Fired up this morning. Especially when Georgia fans on Twitter are acting like Vaughn would be 3rd or 4th on your depth chart.


The Winner
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No I Know you don't I just meant in general


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InThroughTheOutDore
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Sick of seeing dumb people putting Vanderbilt as the worst team in the SEC.


We're used to it. Frankly, I prefer them being underrated, provided they are actually given credit when they do outperform on the field. But more typically that leads to the "well the SEC East is down this year" type comments. Just like how some recruits are dropped from 4 star to 3 star by virtue of committing to Vandy (yes, that happens)...


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WG_Dawg
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It was absurd though. I know MOST Georgia fans aren't like that. I just hate having a game experience ruined by shitty visiting fans. I get it. You outnumber us in our own stadium. Cool. When you (general, not directed at AlaCowboy) start being a douche about it, it's pathetic.


I have a theory that vandy doubling the ticket price from ~60 to ~120 (seriously wtf is that about..) might keep some of the riffraff away. Although, that may be offset by the fact it's the opener and it's a holiday weekend. Who knows.


DoreonthePlains
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I have a theory that vandy doubling the ticket price from ~60 to ~120 (seriously wtf is that about..)


Was it only $60 last time? Vandy has always used variable pricing by game. UT is normally $75. Alabama was $99, I think. I just think it's the AD maximizing income from visiting fans.


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TulaneFan
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re: 2019 FOOTBALL
I wouldn’t write off Florida as a loss either, they did not look overly impressive and Vandy should have beat them the last 4 years but managed to melt down every time.

The LSU game is the only one remaining on the schedule that looks like a lost cause. Ole Miss, USCe, and Tennessee are a smorgasbord of the worst teams in the SEC. Plus you get Purdue, Northern Illinois, and FCS East Tennessee State. Missouri and Kentucky are certainly not invincible.

Assuming Vanderbilt doesn’t run the table I see 6 or 7 wins in there



DoreonthePlains
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re: 2019 FOOTBALL
Need to see better from Neal. Obviously it would be a big help to get our starting LT and LG back.


AlaCowboy
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re: 2019 FOOTBALL
Neal looked lost on the field. Guess the jump from MAC to SEC was too much for him. The Vandy defense in the 2nd half was much improved over the 1st half. Offense needs lots of work. Good luck. With some improvement y'all could easily be #2 or #3 in the East.


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re: 2019 FOOTBALL
Next!

Beat Purdue!!!





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DoreonthePlains
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Neal looked lost on the field. Guess the jump from MAC to SEC was too much for him.

A combination of the pass rush and high snaps (uggggh) could not have helped. Vandy won't face another defense like that this year (maybe LSU). The snaps will improve for the Purdue game, or someone else will be under center by LSU. Oh, and the starting LT and LG will hopefully be healthy soon. With Purdue then a bye week before LSU, there is some time for them to recover unless it's a SERIOUS injury.


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Cheese Grits
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Sick of seeing dumb people putting Vanderbilt as the worst team in the SEC.


What do you expect from the media?

VU is an academic school
UK is a basketball school

Most media never gets past these stereotypes but both Travis and Bayless went to Vandy but don't give the love.




As for the game, I felt pretty good for Vanderbilt.

#1 Was a veritable home game for Georgia
#2 Georgia is a serious CFP team
#3 Vanderbilt was not shut out
#4 Georgia did not beat them by 50+ points

I was a bit pissed off the jacked the ticket prices to around 120 per ticket (I was wanting 4, and at about 500 bucks and parking) so I passed.


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