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Youtuber does pretty deep dive into Georgia's speeding problems
Posted on 8/17/26 at 9:52 am
Posted on 8/17/26 at 9:52 am
Seemed like he did his homework and was pretty knowledgeable about the subject. I didn't realize that cops in Georgia are more likely to be overzealous cowboys than cops in other states. I always figured it was like that in every state. The Youtuber got the first ticket of his life while researching the story. I was pulled over somewhere between 25-30 times by the time I was in my mid 20s.
His final theory:
40 percent – overzealous cops
40 percent – still doesn't know/hard to say
20 percent – Kirby has an alpha program and his players are competetive at everything
This post was edited on 8/17/26 at 9:53 am
Posted on 8/17/26 at 10:07 am to Violent Hip Swivel
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I was pulled over somewhere between 25-30 times by the time I was in my mid 20s.
Did you drive a red corvette with a 'frick the police' bumper sticker?
Posted on 8/17/26 at 10:23 am to Violent Hip Swivel
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I was pulled over somewhere between 25-30 times by the time I was in my mid 20s.
I have been lawfully driving a vehicle for over 2 decades and have been pulled over a grand total of probably around 7 or 8 times.
To be pulled over that often, that young, is absolutely a "you" issue and nothing to do with cops.
Posted on 8/17/26 at 10:30 am to WG_Dawg
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I have been lawfully driving a vehicle for over 2 decades and have been pulled over a grand total of probably around 7 or 8 times.
To be pulled over that often, that young, is absolutely a "you" issue and nothing to do with cops.
Riding around listening to music and smoking weed was what we did back then. Meanwhile you probably had your hands at 10 to 2 with your seat in the upright position and thinking about who you could snitch on next, which is fine. To each their own. Congrats on always being a goodie goodie.
Posted on 8/17/26 at 10:33 am to Violent Hip Swivel
I lived in Athens for a bit over a decade at driving age. I was pulled over and ticketed there more than I have been the rest of my life by a lot.
Posted on 8/17/26 at 10:47 am to Violent Hip Swivel
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Riding around listening to music and smoking weed was what we did back then. Meanwhile you probably had your hands at 10 to 2 with your seat in the upright position and thinking about who you could snitch on next, which is fine.
I also, like many teenagers, drove around smoking and drinking too. You won't get pulled over for listening to music or smoking weed. You'll get pulled over for how you drive as a result of it, probably blasting your music with windows down and going way too fast or too slow.
Believe it or not, you can drive as fricked up as you want, listening to whatever music you want, and not get pulled over if you are driving the speed limit and not drawing attention to yourself. You probably overlooked that part.
Posted on 8/17/26 at 11:09 am to Violent Hip Swivel
People outside of Georgia don't understand how much more aggressive the law operates in georgia, people in Georgia don't realize that how the law conducts itself in other states may be completely indifferent.... an unpaid ticket may be a civil issue in another state where they suspend your license and arrest you in ga as examples.....
Posted on 8/17/26 at 11:33 am to lewis and herschel
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an unpaid ticket may be a civil issue in another state where they suspend your license and arrest you in ga as examples.....
See, this is news to me. I definitely had my mug shot on the Georgia Gazette frigging Facebook page for this. Good ol' "failure to appear."
Posted on 8/17/26 at 11:59 am to Violent Hip Swivel
GA law requires that local, municipal, and county officers give a 10 MPH cushion over the speed limit. Speed detection can’t be operated in an unmarked vehicle, and the LE vehicle must be visible on approach for 500 feet when running stationary speed detection.
How are GA cops overzealous?
How are GA cops overzealous?
Posted on 8/17/26 at 12:18 pm to New Money
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How are GA cops overzealous?
The guy referenced this in the Youtube mini doc.
Georgia consistently ranks near the top nationally for speeding enforcement, citation frequency, and penalty severity, though its exact position depends on the specific metric:
Per-Capita Citations (Top 5–10): Multi-state traffic analyses typically place Georgia between #2 and #6 in total speeding tickets issued per capita. It frequently appears alongside states like Florida, Wyoming, South Carolina, and Oregon for high ticket volume relative to population.
Posted on 8/17/26 at 12:32 pm to New Money
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How are GA cops overzealous?
Let me guess; in your opinion the perception of excessive driving infractions by UGA football players, relative to other programs, is due to either:
1) Kirby Smart's poor recruiting technique which focuses solely on talent and ignores character, or
2) Kirby Smart's refusal to educate players and encourage them to obey the law, or
3) Kirby Smart's lack of discipline when players get into trouble, or
4) Kirby Smart's overall inability to foster a good "culture" at UGA.
Or maybe all four of the above? Maybe something else? Feel free to give your opinion as to why this is happening. Personally, I believe Kirby has done as much as any program to reduce driving infractions. Based on long observation of UGA's peers, I think the perception that Georgia's players do this more than elsewhere is inaccurate for multiple reasons, including differences in enforcement and reporting.
This post was edited on 8/17/26 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 8/17/26 at 1:30 pm to wdhalgren
The tool shack that justifies it would change his tune if his kid was killed by a drunk driver. I don’t give a crap who you are or where it is at, it is wrong and endangers lives.
Posted on 8/17/26 at 1:34 pm to wdhalgren
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Let me guess; in your opinion the perception of excessive driving infractions by UGA football players, relative to other programs, is due to either: 1) Kirby Smart's poor recruiting technique which focuses solely on talent and ignores character, or 2) Kirby Smart's refusal to educate players and encourage them to obey the law, or 3) Kirby Smart's lack of discipline when players get into trouble, or 4) Kirby Smart's overall inability to foster a good "culture" at UGA. Or maybe all four of the above? Maybe something else? Feel free to give your opinion as to why this is happening. Personally, I believe Kirby has done as much as any program to reduce driving infractions. Based on long observation of UGA's peers, I think the perception that Georgia's players do this more than elsewhere is inaccurate for multiple reasons, including differences in enforcement and reporting.
NOT AT ALL. Kirby Smart is a football coach. He didn’t raise the players and isn’t responsible for their behavior.
That’s not a justification of such behavior.
This post was edited on 8/17/26 at 1:37 pm
Posted on 8/17/26 at 1:39 pm to wdhalgren
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, I think the perception that Georgia's players do this more than elsewhere is inaccurate for multiple reasons, including differences in enforcement and reporting.
It's reporting. If an Ole Miss player gets a speeding ticket, it doesn't make the news. If a Notre Dame player gets a speeding ticket, it doesn't make the news. If a UCLA player gets a speeding ticket, it doesn't make the news. If a South Carolina player gets a ticket, it doesn't make the news.
If a UGA player gets a speeding ticket, it's breaking news. It goes viral.
Posted on 8/17/26 at 2:02 pm to WG_Dawg
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To be pulled over that often, that young, is absolutely a "you" issue and nothing to do with cops.
Not so fast.
Cops profile.
I lived in Athens and worked in Gwinnett County.
Driving between 11pm and 2am after getting off work in restaurants over 3 years, I was pulled over about 20 times with no tickets.
They are looking for DUIs and probable cause. I have had the dumbest comments from cops as they shine their flashlight into my messy backseat after a bullshite stop that looks for any reason to escalate. But they bullshite the reason for the stop 85% of the time (the other 15% would be a headlight or taillight, and they were kind enough to let me off with a warning).
Posted on 8/17/26 at 2:04 pm to New Money
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NOT AT ALL. Kirby Smart is a football coach. He didn’t raise the players and isn’t responsible for their behavior.
That’s not a justification of such behavior.
So why do you think that there is a perception that UGA football players are more reckless drivers than other football players, or the young male population in general? I think the perception is inaccurate, due to differences in reporting and enforcement. If you think UGA football players actually do drive differently, what's the cause, in your opinion? It has to either be a random series of observations, which will spontaneously revert and requires no solution, or have some cause that leads to the difference.
This post was edited on 8/17/26 at 2:55 pm
Posted on 8/17/26 at 3:29 pm to wdhalgren
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So why do you think that there is a perception that UGA football players are more reckless drivers than other football players, or the young male population in general? I think the perception is inaccurate, due to differences in reporting and enforcement. If you think UGA football players actually do drive differently, what's the cause, in your opinion? It has to either be a random series of observations, which will spontaneously revert and requires no solution, or have some cause that leads to the difference.
For the next week, count the number of Teslas you see on the road. When actively looking for them, you'll see more than you previously noticed.
The perception is being driven by media reporting and the lack thereof. Do you think football players at Fort Valley State and Wyoming aren't speeding?
Posted on 8/17/26 at 3:41 pm to New Money
Let's also talk about downstream consequences.
Not too long ago, certain segments of the public demanded body and dash cams. There was even a bill introduced in GA to require every interaction between cops and the public to be recorded.
The belief is that the cams would prove widespread corruption, but they have actually done more to disprove false accusations of wrongdoing, and now the prosecution can show exactly how Little Johnny was behaving at the time of the incident, in contrast to his sitting in court with a new haircut and suit.
They've also eroded police discretion. The local cops aren't targeting UGA players, but they aren't cutting them slack. Would you want "Hey, Mr. Running Back, slow it down buddy" being flashed all over YouTube along with accusations of favoritism? Then the headlines would be "Football Players Receiving Favoritism from Fan Cops".
Not too long ago, certain segments of the public demanded body and dash cams. There was even a bill introduced in GA to require every interaction between cops and the public to be recorded.
The belief is that the cams would prove widespread corruption, but they have actually done more to disprove false accusations of wrongdoing, and now the prosecution can show exactly how Little Johnny was behaving at the time of the incident, in contrast to his sitting in court with a new haircut and suit.
They've also eroded police discretion. The local cops aren't targeting UGA players, but they aren't cutting them slack. Would you want "Hey, Mr. Running Back, slow it down buddy" being flashed all over YouTube along with accusations of favoritism? Then the headlines would be "Football Players Receiving Favoritism from Fan Cops".
Posted on 8/17/26 at 5:31 pm to WG_Dawg
I have been pulled over total 7 times across the South. Zero of them legitimately warranted tax payer time.
No departments should be funded by or awarded for tickets.
No departments should be funded by or awarded for tickets.
Posted on 8/17/26 at 5:48 pm to RealDawg
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No departments should be funded by or awarded for tickets.
I can't speak to other states, but in GA, any fines from tickets/arrests by a state agency go to the county in which the offense occurred.
The sheriff is a separate legal entity from the county, with the county having no supervisory authority over the sheriff (or tax commissioner, clerk of court, or probate judge). Fines from tickets/arrest made by the sheriff's office go to the county's general fund. The sheriff does receive their budget allocation from the county, but it's not a direct relationship between fines and funding, and the county can't force the sheriff into stepped-up traffic enforcement.
One could argue with conviction that a municipal/county police department could be pressured into enforcement, as the chief is appointed by a municipal or county governing body...
HOWEVER, under GA law, local and campus agencies must have a permit from the state to operate speed detection devices, and that permit specifies where the devices may be operated.
If an agency generates fines from speeding tickets of less than 20MPH over the limit exceeding the equivalent of 35% of that agency's budget, the state can and will pull its speed detection permit. The GSP investigates "speed trap" complaints and audits agencies.
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