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re: WV losing because of quitter Will Grier
Posted on 12/29/18 at 2:11 pm to FlexDawg
Posted on 12/29/18 at 2:11 pm to FlexDawg
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Reasons this game is important
We all want to win this game but some of your reasons are horrible.
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You never want to lose to an out of conference team in a bowl game(conference bragging rights)
Conference bragging rights are meaningless. So fricking stupid.
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Recruiting
Meh. Recruiting is 80% can you get me to the pros, 20% will I win there. Not going to be long term recruiting effects from the sugar bowl.
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Send the seniors out with a win
Legit.
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You should care about losing. Anyone who’s okay with losing is a loser in life
Thank you for this.
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Momentum for the next year
Literally no impact on next year. Team and roster will be different. How we prepare in the offseason will determine next year, not how we perform in this game.
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Bettering your schools overall bowl record
I mean, who cares?
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Posted on 12/29/18 at 2:13 pm to gatorhata9
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You are impressively thick
That’s what she said.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 2:20 pm to djsdawg
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Quitting before a season is much bigger than quitting before a bowl game
This is inaccurate. Teams greatly change year to year. Roles and personnel are shaped in the offseason. If Baker had left after last season, someone else would have been groomed for his role. Him choosing to not play is quitting on the team and forcing someone into a role they aren’t prepared for quite yet.
This post was edited on 12/29/18 at 2:21 pm
Posted on 12/29/18 at 2:28 pm to RedPants
Quitting 1 game vs quitting over a dozen games. Do the math.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 2:30 pm to RedPants
You think our record would be better if Tyson Campbell or Eric Stokes had been playing on DeAndre Baker's side of the field all year?
Ok
Ok
Posted on 12/29/18 at 2:31 pm to FlexDawg
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you are granted 4 years to play. That doesn’t mean everyone is committed to playing 4 years. Most people have an understanding that certain players aren’t going to play all 4 years. You can’t quit something you never committed to. But there’s no excuse for not finishing the 3rd year that you did commit to. The last game matters just as much as the 1st, 3rd, 7th, etc.
Baker committed to winning a championship. Didn’t happen. Not his fault either. He gave his all towards that goal.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 2:33 pm to djsdawg
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Quitting 1 game vs quitting over a dozen games. Do the math.
Ignoring the football facts I stated and regurgitating this sentence again doesn’t make it anymore true.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 2:33 pm to djsdawg
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Quitting 1 game vs quitting over a dozen games. Do the math.
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Quitting 1 game vs quitting over a dozen games. Do the math.
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Quitting 1 game vs quitting over a dozen games. Do the math.
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Quitting 1 game vs quitting over a dozen games. Do the math.
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Quitting 1 game vs quitting over a dozen games. Do the math.
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Quitting 1 game vs quitting over a dozen games. Do the math.
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Quitting 1 game vs quitting over a dozen games. Do the math.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 2:36 pm to RedPants
No Football facts make one game more than 14 games. It’s simple math. Quitting as a junior is more than quitting a bowl game after a championship is gone
Posted on 12/29/18 at 2:37 pm to Jefferson Dawg
Your Posting quality is inherently terrible. Do better jeffer and sacrifice your screen name for the sake of the board.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 2:39 pm to gatorhata9
This post was edited on 12/29/18 at 2:48 pm
Posted on 12/29/18 at 2:43 pm to djsdawg
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Quitting 1 game vs quitting over a dozen games. Do the math.
Sounds real bad when you put it that way.
We probably shouldn't be recruiting so many 5 stars because they will be so bad to us after 3 years.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 2:46 pm to djsdawg
Quitting is quitting.
If you never committed to your senior year how can you quit it? Have some common sense.
No one is debating the impact of Baker leaving a year early vs 1 game early.
We are talking about quitting. If he would have left after completing all of his games last year that is not quitting as he never told anyone he would play his senior year.
He didn’t complete the year senior year he did commit to so he QUIT.
If you never committed to your senior year how can you quit it? Have some common sense.
No one is debating the impact of Baker leaving a year early vs 1 game early.
We are talking about quitting. If he would have left after completing all of his games last year that is not quitting as he never told anyone he would play his senior year.
He didn’t complete the year senior year he did commit to so he QUIT.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 2:48 pm to meansonny
Using that silly logic, The last thing we need is a 3 star becoming a first round pick and Thorpe winner. He was so bad to us.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 2:51 pm to FlexDawg
Quitting 14 games is far far more than quitting 1 rather meaningless game (compared to rival and championship games). Juniors who leave do that vs seniors who stay.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 2:59 pm to djsdawg
That would be true if you trained with your team the entire offseason, through camp and then said frick it I’m not playing a single game this year.
BUT deciding not to play the next year and informing everyone the previous year then moving on in the off season is not quitting. You never committed or ever insinuated that you’d play the next year.
You can’t quit what you never started.
We aren’t talking impact here. We are talking about the definition of quitting.
BUT deciding not to play the next year and informing everyone the previous year then moving on in the off season is not quitting. You never committed or ever insinuated that you’d play the next year.
You can’t quit what you never started.
We aren’t talking impact here. We are talking about the definition of quitting.
This post was edited on 12/29/18 at 3:00 pm
Posted on 12/29/18 at 3:02 pm to djsdawg
I will say this. The quitting is only going to get worse. I didn't even realize Michigan had 5 starters sitting out. That is absolutely ridiculous. That game was over before it started. The other shoe will drop eventually when someone sits out of playoff game, and then it will snowball.
I don't like the sitting out, but I understand why they do it. Since I'm not in their position it's hard to judge them. Maybe I would do the same.
I don't like the sitting out, but I understand why they do it. Since I'm not in their position it's hard to judge them. Maybe I would do the same.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 3:12 pm to HTDawg
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Michigan had 5 starters sitting out
Pathetic.
May as well decline a bowl bid.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 3:18 pm to FlexDawg
If you have a senior year to play and choose to not play a single game or train a single day, your quit your program and team and teammates.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 3:25 pm to djsdawg
No one EXPECTS a first round pick to stick around for 4 years unless he indicates otherwise. The team has plenty of time to adjust in the off season. Again if you never played or practiced for your senior year then you can’t quit it.
The team has no time to adjust when you decide to sit out your bowl game. It’s the same season you played every game and all of a sudden you say I QUIT. In Bakers situation it’s actually worse because he literally said he wanted to finish and send the seniors out with a win and go out on top. Then he disappeared like a coward leaving Kirby to explain.
The team has no time to adjust when you decide to sit out your bowl game. It’s the same season you played every game and all of a sudden you say I QUIT. In Bakers situation it’s actually worse because he literally said he wanted to finish and send the seniors out with a win and go out on top. Then he disappeared like a coward leaving Kirby to explain.
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