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re: What if HM struggles?...
Posted on 2/11/14 at 12:40 pm to SthGADawg
Posted on 2/11/14 at 12:40 pm to SthGADawg
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but this loyalty to seniors is stoopid....
It has nothing to do with senior loyalty, fact is most of the times a 5th year senior with actual game experience and a few starts under his belt is going to better prepare you to win games than a backup with mop up duty in 1 career game a TFr who's never been on the field.
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Posted on 2/11/14 at 12:42 pm to SthGADawg
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you all know I am a BR fan
This is the thing, I think it's pretty evident you are letting that get in the way here. I'd rather Mason get the shot if all things are equal on experience, seniority alone. Mason has waited his time and has been serviceable and I think it's a good thing he has the 2.5 games under his belt before we start this next season. Rather that than some wide-eyed kid getting his first snaps as Georgia's starter vs Clemson.
That and unlike you I haven't been on the Ramsey hype train. Another reason I look forward to G Day so much cause I wanna see how far he's come.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 12:42 pm to WG_Dawg
Joe Cox
Joe Terishinski
and.....
DJ Shockley
all those situations = foolish
Joe Terishinski
and.....
DJ Shockley
all those situations = foolish
Posted on 2/11/14 at 12:44 pm to SthGADawg
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Joe Cox
Agreed
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Joe Terishinski
Got benched early
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DJ Shockley
Ummm.... what?
Posted on 2/11/14 at 12:47 pm to SthGADawg
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Joe Cox
Murray was hurt all offseason and could barely pick up a football until halfway through the season. There was no reason whatsoever to not start Cox, not a single one. And at what point should we have benched him for the 3rd stringer?
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Joe Terishinski
It was pretty widely known that him and Staff were going to battle it out until someone claimed the job. Again, no reason not to start JT because AT THE TIME, he gave us the best chance to win. Not sure if you remember, but stafford kinda sucked arse most of the year until the last half. Go look at his numbers.
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DJ Shockley
What?
Posted on 2/11/14 at 12:49 pm to WG_Dawg
I wanna know if this guy is old man Ramsey 
Posted on 2/11/14 at 12:51 pm to Damn Good Dawg
Ha could be.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 1:14 pm to Damn Good Dawg
quote:If he is he better start giving some more inside info
I wanna know if this guy is old man Ramsey
I like BR but this year, with all the talent we have I would rather roll the dice with HM.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 1:18 pm to SthGADawg
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What if HM struggles?...
He already has but he settled down vs Nebraska and looked pretty good though granted he was still short-arming his passes to insure accuracy. Unfortunately our receivers couldn't hold onto the ball in critical situations.
I think Mason should be OK. He's not as good as Murray but if he plays smart we should win 10 games with next season's schedule.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 1:26 pm to SthGADawg
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no, no he wasn't...as has been stated, the Oline and Receivers didnt help much but I was there...he looked lost...
Murray threw two picks and looked lost in the first half against that same team in his third year starting. Mason was set up for failure in that game - no one wanted to be there and it showed. He settled down and made throws. No one caught them despite getting both hands on them. I'm not saying he's going to be a world beater but he's better than he's getting credit for. He'll be fine next year. And if he struggles, you'll probably get to see Camden's finest.
My money is on Mason.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 1:27 pm to Damn Good Dawg
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I wanna know if this guy is old man Ramsey
Pretty sure they're not related.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 1:34 pm to davesdawgs
The only thing the quarterback needs to do is to make sure the handoff to these two guys is clean...
And these two...
Seriously though I think Mason holds onto the job, but by the middle of the year Ramsey starts to see significant playing time.
And these two...
Seriously though I think Mason holds onto the job, but by the middle of the year Ramsey starts to see significant playing time.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 1:49 pm to FinleyStreet
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I think this battle will be unofficially between Parks and Ramsey. Bobo likes to groom QBs for four+ years in game situations. This year will be Mason's and after that Fauton will be the next Gray IMHO. Once the battle (Bauta/Ramsey/Parks) is won the loser will end up transferring out or become the next Shockley/Cox/Mason.
Think about it. In the early 2000s it was Green/Shockley. Then it was Stafford/JoeT. JoeT got hurt in the second game and Stafford stepped in and took over from there. Cox came onboard the next season when Staff had it locked up. Then Cox/Gray battled and Cox won the one season before he graduated. After that Gray lost the battle to Murray/Mett and it would have been Murray/Mett with Gray transferring out. However Mett fricked up and got kicked off the team. So it's possible Gray thought maybe there was a chance but then along came Mason and he decided to tranfer out rather than fight for sloppy seconds and his time was coming to an end.
I don't know about you guys but I see a pattern and if Bauta doesn't make a mad effort and shine he will ultimately be relegated to third string and eventually tranfer or graduate out. It sucks but thems the breaks.
That said if Mason fricks up and Bauta can take every opportunity to shine instead of fading into the background like Gray he could win the next three years.
Highly unlikely...
As I stated in another forum.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 1:50 pm to WG_Dawg
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DJ Shockley
was better than Greene...probably should have played more before 2005...
and im not old man Ramsey...
...just like the kid and want him to get a fair shake as I think he is super talented...been watching him since he was a HS freshman... My point in all of this...is when you have a guy that may be your franchise guy, then let him go out there and learn it and become it......staff and murray kind of got that opportunity and they both excelled...Joe T and Cox...not so much...to me HM is akin to them more than Staff or AM....and we might have won a natty with Shockley had he been given the chance...
Posted on 2/11/14 at 1:55 pm to SthGADawg
HM will play.. he waited long enough. It is only fair.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 2:00 pm to SthGADawg
It seems to me Shockley was the exception to the norm in Athens. All our backups seem to get complacent regarding their duties or something and they just don't play well. I feel like if I'm coaching I'm going to invest in the long haul and put my younger QBs in there if they show they know the system.
Otherwise play Mason/Bauta extensively and noone else in the crap games like Troy/Charleston maybe even Kentucky/Vandy.
Otherwise play Mason/Bauta extensively and noone else in the crap games like Troy/Charleston maybe even Kentucky/Vandy.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 2:10 pm to SthGADawg
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DJ Shockley
was better than Greene
Posted on 2/11/14 at 2:11 pm to AirDawg
I don't understand why so many don't like/ don't think Mason is good. Did the man not throw for 300 yards in his first two starts?
Posted on 2/11/14 at 2:11 pm to SthGADawg
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was better than Greene...probably should have played more before 2005
A tired, weak, and completely baseless argument that is not rooted in any fact-based evidence whatsoever.
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when you have a guy that may be your franchise guy, then let him go out there and learn it and become it
Only if he is your best option to football games NOW. To throw a youngster out there simply for the reason of "man in 3 years this guy is gonna be IT" is retarded.
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staff and murray kind of got that opportunity and they both excelled
Murray redshirted behind a 5th year senior and was the only real option in 2010. Stafford started playing early only because the senior hurt his foot. And stafford still stunk it up until the auburn game that year.
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Joe T and Cox...not so much
Cox was the ONLY option for 2010, period. Not even debatable. You can argue 2006, but none of us were at every single practice and scrimmage like the coaches were. I trust their decision making. AFter all, it's those same coaches who decided when the line was drawn and it was time to finally hand over the reigns for good. And that time wasn't in September.
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and we might have won a natty with Shockley had he been given the chance
Again, weak argument that is based in fantasy world.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 2:16 pm to SthGADawg
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we might have won a natty with Shockley had he been given the chance...
Greene was one of the best SEC QB's of all time.
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