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Posted on 10/13/20 at 12:30 pm to
Posted by lewis and herschel
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Posted on 10/13/20 at 12:30 pm to
Nah, I have seen tom brady do the same.

His arm strength is above average.

He was a 3 star because he was short. That's all.
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 10/13/20 at 12:45 pm to
NTY but do the Dawgs have the confidence and execution level to beat bama? While have have no doubt the talent is more than there, but bama has been a monkey we’ve been unable to shake
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 10/13/20 at 12:51 pm to
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Nah, I have seen tom brady do the same.

His arm strength is above average.

He was a 3 star because he was short. That's all


There are different types of throws.

Bennett has above average arm strength when he flicks the ball. He can quick release and get it downfield 15+ yards in a hurry. This is why he is so good on the run.

But Bennett has below average arm strength just stepping into his throws downfield. On deeper routes, he needs to release it earlier because of this. A lot of these are underthrown because of the timing. Stetson has no issue getting the ball 50 yards downfield. But because of the velocity, he has to release it sooner otherwise the receiver and defense are waiting on it.

For the record, Hutson Mason was abused in playcalling at UGA. He is a similar west coast styled QB to Bennett. But we asked Mason to make the same throws as Murray and Fromm outside the numbers. Hutson did a great job anticipating the open receiver and getting the ball out earlier because of the arm strength issue. Bennett hasnt seemed to speed up his internal clock for those sideline throws and deep go routes yet.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 10/13/20 at 1:33 pm to
Bennett got no number 1 reps prior to Arkansas. I think that lack of familiarity is the problem and will start to disappear. He will greatly improve, he has only been a starter for 2.5 games. 2 weeks of QB1 reps prior to last Saturday.

His underthrow this week was because he was backing out of the pocket and threw it without forward momentum created by stepping into a throw. It went a ways given the physics of it.

Kirby noted on a recent interview that they looked silly by not recognizing bennett preseason.

If he goes on to beat this Bama team with 2.5 starts, it will be one for the ages.




Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 10/13/20 at 2:24 pm to
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Bennett threw a bullet right around 60 yds vs Auburn,

Not sure I would call it a bullet, however few QBs can throw a bullet 60 yards. His are strength is not the problem. His problem is he waits too long before throwing it deep. I think he is waiting on separation from the receiver, but by the time the receiver comes open they are already deep, so they look underthrown.

Just my opinion.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 10/13/20 at 2:26 pm to
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On deeper routes, he needs to release it earlier because of this. A lot of these are underthrown because of the timing. Stetson has no issue getting the ball 50 yards downfield. But because of the velocity, he has to release it sooner otherwise the receiver and defense are waiting on it.



You're da man. You beat me to it.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
16330 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 2:30 pm to
I don't disagree but I think the reason he throws late is lack of reps with number 1s. His long pass got there quick for the distance it traveled.

I do 7 on 7 camps, working on bringing a young qb along now. I watch hs kids throw every day. A live arm stands out.

Their are always stronger but I think what's between the ears is likely the most important on a defense first team. Why I think we have not seen Daniels.
Posted by meansonny
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Member since Sep 2012
26046 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 2:37 pm to
quote:

Bennett got no number 1 reps prior to Arkansas. I think that lack of familiarity is the problem and will start to disappear. He will greatly improve, he has only been a starter for 2.5 games. 2 weeks of QB1 reps prior to last Saturday.


I'm not as optimistic right now.
Bennett does a great job getting through his reads. I dont think he can speed up that mental part of his game.

I'm sure he can get a first read out quicker, but I dont really think that is his timing problem. It is his 2nd, 3rd, or 4th read where those downfield throws are late.

quote:

His underthrow this week was because he was backing out of the pocket and threw it without forward momentum created by stepping into a throw

Again, I get what you are saying. But I think avoiding the pressure made him late on the throw. Timing is critical downfield when you dont have the cannon to make up for it.

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Kirby noted on a recent interview that they looked silly by not recognizing bennett preseason.

Bennett didnt look good last season when he was pressured (limited reps). I think the staff has a good idea of what Bennett can do well. I also think they understand how they would defend against him. We have a talented enough roster and Bennett does enough things well that we can win big games with him. The offensive line needs a leap in improvement though if we are going to face a dominant DL.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
16330 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 2:44 pm to
Largely don't disagree just think Bennett is an anomaly that has the detriment of being short and small framed but the un natural ability to escape angry defenses and make good decisions. Running from our d will make a winner out of you.

People forget that Carve threw a lot of ints but could also play clean. Circumstances.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26046 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 3:04 pm to
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Bennett is an anomaly that has the detriment of being short and small framed but the un natural ability to escape angry defenses and make good decisions.


I agree with that. His height will get some batted down balls. And his size makes him an awful candidate for QB sneak. But other than that, the smaller stature gives him a quickness to evade elite linebackers and DL. He separates and accelerates when he wants to go.

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Running from our d will make a winner out of you.

He definitely doesnt have any fear. And mistakes dont phase him.

He seems to have absorbed a lot of the mental preparation from Fromm. He needs more experience (or confidence) to get out of bad plays. I definitely think we can win with him. But he definitely needs to play within himself. Joe Cox had a much better arm than Stetson. But Joe Cox sat in a film room with Matt Stafford for 3 years and when the lights were on... Joe Cox tried to play like Matt Stafford when plays were breaking down. Cox would go from being a 7 on 7 champion with a clean pocket to being the film example of what not to do while being pressured.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
16330 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 3:33 pm to
I thought Joe had a noodle arm. Ball seemed to float, he reminded me of Chad Pennington.

Stet' reminds me of Doug Flutie. Little guy with pretty good arm.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26046 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 4:52 pm to
Rewatch arkansas.

I can agree to disagree.
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