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Posted on 1/3/20 at 9:23 am to lewis and herschel
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It's the playoff committee's words not mine
they can say whatever they want, we have 6 years of data to go on where anyone with eyeballs can see that they're going by resume.
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the let Bama in, in a year they were not deserving
I'd love to hear who was more desrving in 2017. Was it ohio state, who had 2 losses including the worst of the season, or wisconsin, who also had 1 loss and didn't win their conference?
Posted on 1/3/20 at 10:08 am to WG_Dawg
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they'd still be wrong. A 2 loss non-champion has absolutely zero business in the playoffs.
It’s top 4, not 4 who only have 1 loss or less. Uga is always better than OU.
Posted on 1/3/20 at 10:12 am to djsdawg
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It’s top 4, not 4 who only have 1 loss or less
well, there have been 24 teams make the playoffs and zero with 2 losses so yeah, I'd kinda say it is for teams with 0-1 loss.
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Uga is always better than OU.
maybe we are, maybe we aren't. Our resume this year wasn't which is all that mattered. I truly don't believe clemson is a top 2 team but if you're a 13-0 P5 conference winner you're in the playoffs, that's just how it goes.
Posted on 1/3/20 at 10:20 am to WG_Dawg
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there have been 24 teams make the playoffs and zero with 2 losses so yeah, I'd kinda say it is for teams with 0-1 loss.
Cfb has always been flawed in this manner. Doesn’t make it right, as ou keeps on proving.
Posted on 1/3/20 at 10:33 am to djsdawg
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Cfb has always been flawed in this manner.
flawed by taking the teams that lose the least amount of games? lol alright
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Doesn’t make it right, as ou keeps on proving.
that doesn't prove shite. We haven't won a title in 40 yeras, would it make sense to you if the playoffs premeptively came out in the summer and said we aren't allowed to play this season because of it? Each season stands on its own merit, as it shoould. OU could lose in the first round of the playoffs the next 10 years in a row, and come year 11 if htey win the big 12 with 0-1 loss and there an're 4 teams with better resumes, they will and should still get in.
And nobody seems to be able ot provide a competent answer on who should have gone in OU's place. The fact of hte matter is people are just looking for someone to blame because of LSU's utter domination. The reason for that, I have no idea. They're going to whoop up on clemson too and people will immediatley begin saying clemson didn't belong.
Posted on 1/3/20 at 10:37 am to WG_Dawg
The college football playoff flaw is that they make decisions on losses.
Not wins.
That philosophy rewards Oklahoma/Baylor/Clemson scheduling.
It punishes Georgia scheduling.
Why schedule big games if the goal is to skate by the season without losses?
The biggest reward would be to schedule cupcakes and pull your starters at halftime to avoid injuries to be healthiest at the end of the year.
Not wins.
That philosophy rewards Oklahoma/Baylor/Clemson scheduling.
It punishes Georgia scheduling.
Why schedule big games if the goal is to skate by the season without losses?
The biggest reward would be to schedule cupcakes and pull your starters at halftime to avoid injuries to be healthiest at the end of the year.
Posted on 1/3/20 at 10:45 am to WG_Dawg
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flawed by taking the teams that lose the least amount of games? lol alright
The assumption that a 1 loss team vs an easy arse schedule is a better team than a 2 loss team vs a hard arse Schedule. No other sport is flawed in this nature. No other level of football is flawed in this nature.
Posted on 1/3/20 at 10:51 am to meansonny
While I agree with your logic, no matter who you spin it sometimes there are less than 3 worthy teams as was the case this season. Georgia might have been a better team than Oklahoma but we got blown-out by LSU so I don't think the outcome of another UGA/LSU matchup would have been any more competitive.
And yes, Clemson has a huge advantage playing in the weak ACC; no real challenge throughout the season, they can rest their starters and give backups more playing time, fewer injuries, etc.
And yes, Clemson has a huge advantage playing in the weak ACC; no real challenge throughout the season, they can rest their starters and give backups more playing time, fewer injuries, etc.
Posted on 1/3/20 at 10:52 am to meansonny
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The college football playoff flaw is that they make decisions on losses.
Not wins.
not true at all, they look at wins and losses and you overall body of work/resume. As they should. We lost to an utterly embarrassing SC team, at home, and by 4 touchdowns to LSU. Despite those two atrocious losses we were still ranked 5th...that's BECAUSE of our solid wins. Bama lost twice, once close to LSU and again close on the road to a good AU team. Despite them having much better losses, they weren't even ranked in the top 10. Why? Becuase they had zero good wins. It's pretty clear wins and losses are both factored in to the rankings.
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That philosophy rewards Oklahoma/Baylor/Clemson scheduling.
It punishes Georgia scheduling.
Our scheduling is retarded anyway. And punishment/rewards boils down, as it always does, to wins and losses. You shoudl wnat to win as many games as you can, it's pretty simple. If we had played ULM instead of Notre Dame, we would still have missed the playoffs.
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Why schedule big games if the goal is to skate by the season without losses?
that's a great question. And I don't know the answer, I think it's stupid.
Posted on 1/3/20 at 10:57 am to djsdawg
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The assumption that a 1 loss team vs an easy arse schedule is a better team than a 2 loss team vs a hard arse Schedule.
once again, they aren't selecting the "better team", they're selecting based on resume. Out of 24 teams, only 2 have made it without winning their conference and both times there were unusual cirtumstances. It's pretty clear you need to win your conference or need a lot of help. Oklahoma had 1 loss and won a P5 conference. We had 2 losses and didn't win their conference. Their resume trumped ours.
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No other level of football is flawed in this nature.
Ours is by far the best way because it limits it to teams who actually DESERVE a title shot. IDGAF if d2 or whatever has a 16 team playoff..if after 13 weeks of play you are only ranked 16th you don't even come close to deserving a title shot.
The committee has also gotten it right every year, it blows me away that people try to manufacture reasons to complain. The 4th spot in the first year of 2014 is the only one that really has some controversey taht could be argued, '15-'19 the 4 teams that made it were the most deserving.
Posted on 1/3/20 at 11:21 am to WG_Dawg
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once again, they aren't selecting the "better team", they're selecting based on resume.
The point remains the same no matter the semantics. Losing the seccg closely to the best team in the nation doesn’t necessarily make a resume/team worse than a team that won the terrible big 12.
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Ours is by far the best way because it limits it to teams who actually DESERVE a title shot.
High school. Nfl. Fcs. All better ways to determine a champ. On the field. Head to head.
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he committee has also gotten it right every year,
Damn sure didn’t in 2018, and had we kept it close in Atlanta, they wound have gotten it wrong again. Winning the big 12 simply isn’t evidence of more deserving.
Posted on 1/3/20 at 11:24 am to lewis and herschel
The primary goal should be to get to the playoffs and not having any real decision from the committee involved. We gave ourselves that opportunity in the SEC Championship for three years running.
There isn't any argument this team underachieved this year because reasons.
The other two years was good really good football teams playing and one just a bit better than the other.
Glad we are giving ourselves the opportunity and didn't crap the bed in another bowl game. Onward.
There isn't any argument this team underachieved this year because reasons.
The other two years was good really good football teams playing and one just a bit better than the other.
Glad we are giving ourselves the opportunity and didn't crap the bed in another bowl game. Onward.
Posted on 1/3/20 at 11:33 am to djsdawg
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The point remains the same no matter the semantics. Losing the seccg closely to the best team in the nation doesn’t necessarily make a resume/team worse than a team that won the terrible big 12.
YOu're right, it doesn't. But the whole point of playing games is wins and losses. If you can casually dsimiss that as "oh well yeah they lost but they looked good" you open things up to the dreaded eye test that everyone complains about all the time. An eye test has absolutley no business in this thing.
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High school. Nfl. Fcs. All better ways to determine a champ. On the field. Head to head.
you think it's better, I don't. To each his own. our playoffs are determined head to head as well btw.
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Damn sure didn’t in 2018
Just like this year, we had 2 losses and didn't win our conference. Oklahoma only had 1 loss and did win their conference. They are going over us 100 times out of 100 in that scenario. It's crazy that the basic criteria of 1)win your conference 2)don't lose too many games isn't correct for some people. Those are pretty damn basic rules but people want to contort to make UGA look better in a given year. If UGa won the SEC at 12-1 while beating teams by 3 every week and no good OOC teams got passed over by an 11-2 non champ that looked really good doing it people would riot. They'd absolutely lose their minds. The very first thing any fan would say is "but they didn't even win their conference! And we have less losses!"
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Winning the big 12 simply isn’t evidence of more deserving.
They won their P5 conference with less losses. Maybe if we'd stop having 2 losses after CCG weekend things would be different.
Posted on 1/3/20 at 11:54 am to WG_Dawg
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An eye test has absolutley no business in this thing.
Yet you defend the only level of football which takes it into account. Make up your mind. Anyways, It’s mainly bama haters that don’t like the eye test, so no reason to bring that worthless whining up. Certainly Doesn’t mean the eye test wasn’t correct.
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our playoffs are determined head to head as well btw.
Ou getting a playoff shot over uga 2018 is not head to head. Didn’t play each other, and didn’t even play a common opponent. Eye test would have correctly picked the right team. Resume test failed.
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we had 2 losses and didn't win our conference. Oklahoma only had 1 loss and did win their conference. They are going over us 100 times out of 100 in that scenario.
We already came full circle. That’s the flaw I am talking about. The failed resume test. Uga being punished by having to play an elite team, while ou gets an easy opponent, and jumps uga.
Posted on 1/3/20 at 12:01 pm to djsdawg
This entire discussion should be centered around losing to a 4 win SCjr. If we beat them, then your argument of UGA being in over OU is valid. Its not like we lost to 2 highly ranked teams by a small margin on the road. We lost to a terrible team at home, then got smoked in our last game of the season before the committee met. We did not deserve a spot regardless of your "eye test"
Posted on 1/3/20 at 12:07 pm to DawgCountry
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This entire discussion should be centered around losing to a 4 win SCjr.
This didn’t happen in 2018 , so that doesn’t explain it.
Posted on 1/3/20 at 12:12 pm to djsdawg
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Yet you defend the only level of football which takes it into account. Make up your mind
We don't have the eye test silly, if we did UGA may have made the playoffs last year. It's pretty damn simple; either win your conference or if you don't you need tons of help. YOu like the other playoffs because they have set in stone concrete rules, while ignoring that 92% of teams to have made the playoffs have won their conference. We didn't win our conference the last 2 years and we had more losses than the other teams. That's the exact opposite of the eye test, it's putting 100% of the decision onto the resumes.
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Eye test would have correctly picked the right team. Resume test failed.
and who are you exactly to say that UGA is the "right team"? Is it just because you're a UGA fan? Your opinion is entirely subjective and not rooted in any real reality. Resumes aren't subjective, you look at wins, losses, and titles and compare them.
Posted on 1/3/20 at 12:23 pm to WG_Dawg
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We don't have the eye test silly, if we did UGA may have made the playoffs last year.
It’s more of an eye test than any other level of football as playoff teams are selected by humans in a board room. We almost made it last year because of the eye test, but the resume test won out, which was obviously wrong as we now know.
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YOu like the other playoffs because they have set in stone concrete rules, while ignoring that 92% of teams to have made the playoffs have won their conference. We didn't win our conference the last 2 years and we had more losses than the other teams. That's the exact opposite of the eye test, it's putting 100% of the decision onto the resumes.
A team as good as uga 2018 isn’t left out of playoffs in any other level of football. The rules that would support that create a better playoff.
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who are you exactly to say that UGA is the "right team"? I
The committee considered uga 4th best going into the bama game, and we backed that ranking up in the bama game.
Posted on 1/3/20 at 12:32 pm to WG_Dawg
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either win your conference or if you don't you need tons of help.
Need tons of help?
Like hoping that Oklahoma scheduled tougher OOC than Houston (4-8), South Dakota (5-7), and UCLA (4-8). Thank god the BigXII has the 9th conference game to squeeze in Kansas (3-9).
But hey, OU did beat Baylor a 2nd time to win their conference. It went to overtime despite knocking the starting QB and backup out of the game.
FWIW, I dont give a damn about specifics to 2018 and 2019 for the playoff. I dont like the way the playoff committee prioritizes avoiding losses over scheduling and winning against big opponents.
That philosophy is bad for college football because it is bad for scheduling. It is bad for putting undeserving teams in playoff games. To argue otherwise is to ask your AD for a crap home schedule every year.
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