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re: The Final AP Poll it out and UGA is....unranked

Posted on 1/12/16 at 8:10 am to
Posted by LewDawg
Member since May 2009
76551 posts
Posted on 1/12/16 at 8:10 am to
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Georgia Southern
Penn State
Southern
Auburn
Juggernauts
Posted by GurleyGirl
Georgia
Member since Nov 2015
14170 posts
Posted on 1/12/16 at 8:10 am to
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Tennessee absolutely smoked Northwestern.


Tennessee is a better team than when we played them but yea, a UGA vs NW would be a good/likely close game.

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And who did WKU beat that tells you they are better than us? We played (IMO) better competition than WKU, and lost to better teams. MUCH better teams. (At least according to their own rankings)


Agree. Probably the best measure was the WKU win over Vandy, 14-12; Georgia beat Vanderbilt 31-14. So yea, I do feel we should have been ranked over WKU.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
60633 posts
Posted on 1/12/16 at 8:10 am to
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We weren't a good football team this year.


True. Nobody is arguing that we were.

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It's actually a little refreshing seeing us not over fluffed in the polls.


When were we "over fluffed"?
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
60633 posts
Posted on 1/12/16 at 8:13 am to
Please don't misunderstand. I didn't mean to come off as rude, although I can see where it may have sounded that way. And, as many have pointed out....it really doesn't matter. But I have always been one to fight for respect....when deserved. We may not have been very good, but I feel like we were better than WKU, and I still think we could have beaten, or given NW a good game. However, red&black made a good point about them having beaten 3 Top 25 teams.
Posted by dawgdayafternoon
Jacksonville, GA
Member since Jul 2011
22982 posts
Posted on 1/12/16 at 8:13 am to
WKU beat... Vandy? And lost to Indiana and LSU.

I guess you could make the case that we should be higher than them but I don't think it really matters.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
60633 posts
Posted on 1/12/16 at 8:14 am to
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Juggernauts


Nobody claimed them to be juggernauts. But I get tired of people saying we didn't beat anybody with a winning record. Either we did, or we didn't.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
60633 posts
Posted on 1/12/16 at 8:16 am to
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I guess you could make the case that we should be higher than them but I don't think it really matters.


Does any ranking matter if you don't end up #1? In reality, no. But when you earn something you should get it. And I can promise you it matters to the players that worked hard all year preparing for the season. Any sign of respect they can get matters to them.

ETA
I apologize DawgDayAfternoon. I credited Red&Black with pointing out that NW beat three ranked teams, and it was actually you.
This post was edited on 1/12/16 at 8:18 am
Posted by GurleyGirl
Georgia
Member since Nov 2015
14170 posts
Posted on 1/12/16 at 8:20 am to
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When were we "over fluffed"?


UGA was obviously overrated throughout much of the season:

week 1 - 10th
week 2 - 7th
week 3 - 7th
week 4 - 7th
week 5 - 8th
week 6 - 19th
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
88622 posts
Posted on 1/12/16 at 8:24 am to
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UGA was obviously overrated throughout much of the season:



I disagree wholeheartedly. It's a fluid ranking that changes week to week, as it's supposed to. You can't look after week 15 and say "oh, well they were ranked [X] after week 3, man were they wrong!" You/we now have all the facts, in week 3 we only had 3 weeks' worth of facts.

After week 5 we were still in the top 10, and deservedly so, because we were undefeated including a 30 point shellacking over a team that at the time nobody knew would end up sucking. We were ranked accordingly. Then, as we continued to lose and continued to look bad, we continued to drop in the rankings. As we should have.

This whole "UGA is always overrated" thing is massively overblown.
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
31514 posts
Posted on 1/12/16 at 8:35 am to
week 1 - 10th
week 2 - 7th
week 3 - 7th
week 4 - 7th
week 5 - 8th
week 6 - 19th (Bama became Bama in Week 5)
Week 7 - lost Chubb. Season over in Week 6

We were ranked appropriately each week IMO
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
42065 posts
Posted on 1/12/16 at 8:38 am to
I don't think we were a top ten team even with Chubb but probably top twenty.
Posted by Damn Good Dawg
Member since Feb 2011
47325 posts
Posted on 1/12/16 at 8:39 am to
Y'all can argue WKU but northwestern absolutely deserves to be ranked ahead of Georgia. They'd most likely have beaten Georgia
Posted by gatorhata9
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2010
26184 posts
Posted on 1/12/16 at 8:43 am to
Agree to disagree with that. I know you've had a 5 year hard on for ole Pat but we would've handled Northwestern by a couple of scores. And don't misunderstand me, I had zero confidence in anything this team did this year.
Posted by ATLdawg25
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2014
4370 posts
Posted on 1/12/16 at 8:55 am to
I would guess that another factor is Tennessee and Florida barely making the cut. Losing to both (and handily to UF) would make it hard to slot us in there. Oh well.
Posted by MSGADawg5988
Member since Feb 2014
1429 posts
Posted on 1/12/16 at 9:15 am to
We would have destroyed northwestern. Their offense was worse than ours
Posted by GurleyGirl
Georgia
Member since Nov 2015
14170 posts
Posted on 1/12/16 at 9:42 am to
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I don't think we were a top ten team even with Chubb but probably top twenty.


Agree with this. Without a quality/proven QB and good OL, in retrospect you can't say Georgia ever deserved to be ranked in the top 10. Lambert looked good vs overrated SC but that's about it. He probably would have been serviceable with a solid OL but with our OL we needed a Deshaun Watson level QB to have an offense equal to our defense.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
60633 posts
Posted on 1/12/16 at 9:55 am to
quote:

UGA was obviously overrated throughout much of the season:

week 1 - 10th
week 2 - 7th
week 3 - 7th
week 4 - 7th
week 5 - 8th
week 6 - 19th



Maybe. Maybe not. I think Chubb made a big, BIG difference. You can survive losing a Chubb when you have a decent QB. But we just didn't.
Posted by Damn Good Dawg
Member since Feb 2011
47325 posts
Posted on 1/12/16 at 9:58 am to
Because Patty Fitz is the truth. No way, we lose that game something like 9-6. That defense is legit. Well, the bowl game fricks it up but i can't see how y'all think we'd blow them out. We blew out a SWAC team and that's it. We'd be lucky to hit 17, it required Hack going down and PSUs offense stalling for us to have enough chances to score 24
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
60633 posts
Posted on 1/12/16 at 10:00 am to
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in retrospect you can't say Georgia ever deserved to be ranked in the top 10.


That's the key, though. I THINK most of us felt like we were a Top 10 team when Chubb was runnning the ball. MOST felt we had a chance going into the Alabama game. rankings are based on feelings and recent erformance. At the point in the season we were ranked there it wasn't fluff, but a feeling for where we belonged relative to other teams. When we found out we were not as good as we thought, we dropped.


I may be misunderstanding you, though. By fluff I took it you meant we were over ranked and given too much credit. I always felt AT THE TIME we were ranked where we should have been ranked. Nobody can see the future, so you have to rank teams to what you know about them. Does this make sense?

I typically agree with everything you post, so I might just be misunderstanding you.
Posted by GeorgiaBoy
Member since Sep 2013
1982 posts
Posted on 1/12/16 at 10:11 am to
So, those are the 4 that you are basing your "we should be ranked" argument on? Should tell you all you need to need to know right there. All of those teams except GSU were bad teams. We lost to the only decent teams we played. Badly to 2 of them.
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