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re: School Shooting in Barrow County

Posted on 9/5/24 at 2:54 pm to
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 9/5/24 at 2:54 pm to
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are mostly a black problem,

Like I said surface level take, blaming this on a race is as dumb as blaming it on one gender
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In tpyical leftist fashion you try to blame anything and everythign OTHER than the individual committing crimes.

You can blame more than just one thing, the fact is that Europe and Canada don’t deal with this shite and yet we just burry our head in the sand and use a scape goat
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doesn't help that the left has decided to celebrate whacko weirdo freakazoids instead of correcting and helping them be normal again.

Yeah that’s the reason for it couldn’t possibly be anything else. Weird how you can’t actually back shite up with your ramblings and instead just spew talking points
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liberal idea of taking what the middle class works for and giving it to the poor that don't do shite typically never works out well for society as a whole.

Ah yes the classic of frick poor people they’re all parasites is so refreshing.

Maybe there’s a reason why American healthcare costs more per capita than any other nation. Maybe there’s a reason why American healthcare overall ranks lower than all of Western Europe and Canada. Maybe it’s the insurance companies that are part of the problem. Maybe it’s us turning healthcare into a for profit system instead of actually helping out every American is the problem.

Nah you just subscribe to the mentality of “frick you I got mine”
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
88705 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 2:56 pm to
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That’s like saying well men represent the majority of violent crime so clearly the issue is men.


"the issue" is that one human has decided to kill another human. Black people aren't an "issue" in the sense that 'oh you're black you're probably a killer', they are an "issue" in the sense that the sky high shooting death figures you post are overwhelmingly perpetrated by that demographic. So it's disingenuous to say we have a problem with access to guns; guns are an inanimate object that do nothing but sit inanimate. Guns themselves are not a problem anymore than a knife or a saw is a problem. We do have a problem with people misusing guns, and the people misusing them to murder are predominantly black.

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it’s racist because of the implications.


your ilk always goes to this well and it's laughable because you don't even know the definition. Pointing out that blakc people do a certain thing isn't racist. Racism would be sayin "I don' like that guy becuase he's black" or "I am better than him because he's black and I'm not". Saying "black people are responsible for far more shooting deaths than anyone else" isn't anywhere in teh vicinity of racist.


Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
50645 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 3:01 pm to
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Guns themselves are not a problem

The relative easy access to them is the problem. When you have a mental health crisis like we do in the US and poor access to healthcare based on number of factors such as high cost than it’s probably not a good idea for guns to be so poorly regulated. The total denial of this is why we just continue to have this problem and why it’s unique to America.

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Saying "black people are responsible for far more shooting deaths than anyone else" isn't anywhere in teh vicinity of racist.

No but just saying this is it this is reason why and nothing else is pretty fricked up or ignorant of the underlying issues
This post was edited on 9/5/24 at 3:03 pm
Posted by K9
wayx....BOBO IN '19 &lt-- oops
Member since Sep 2012
26844 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 3:07 pm to
The food pyramid was influenced by big sugar which paid for studies that demonized animal fats as unhealthy...which lead to the proliferation of seed oils which are a big driver for a load of issues including mental health disorders.

You're early 20s right dawgfan? You're on the right path to understanding. Should see the light within the next 5 years.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
88705 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 3:22 pm to
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Guns themselves are not a problem

The relative easy access to them is the problem. When you have a mental health crisis like we do in the US and poor access to healthcare based on number of factors such as high cost than it’s probably not a good idea for guns to be so poorly regulated.


You are blaming a dozen different things instead of the actual individual themself. I've agreed that mental health is a big issue right now in various ways. part of it is getting rid of institutions, part of it is internet/social media. part of it is helicopter parents or absent parents, part of it is celebrating they/them weirdos, etc. But when a person decides to pick up a gun and kill another, it it not the hospital's fault because they're expensive. It's not Xbox's fault for providng a platform for FPS games and it's not Academy's fault for carrying firearms. It's that person's fault.

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The total denial of this is why we just continue to have this problem


We have "this problem", with the problem being a high number of shooting deaths, because:

1) nothing has been or ever will be done about inner city gun violence that happens weekly
2) in liberal run cities with liberal DAs and judges when police actually DO arrest someone for improper use of a firearm they typically are back on the street quickly

As for the issue of people specifically shooting in a school, that happens ridiculously less frequent that black on black crime in the city and it would be lessened even more wtih more discipline and better mental healthcare. Step 1 would be setting kids straight when they first decide they want to chop off their weiner or pretned to be a cat or a dragon this week. Used ot be those people woudl be ostracized but now they're empowered.

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Saying "black people are responsible for far more shooting deaths than anyone else" isn't anywhere in teh vicinity of racist.

No but just saying this is it this is reason why and nothing else is pretty fricked up


You act like I'm saying the reason why is BECAUSE they are black, which nobody has ever said. Nobody thinks 'well that guy is black so he's probably going to shoot someone because of it'. Reasons?

-Well for starters, as mentioned before, a shitton of gun violence and shooting deaths are done in large democratic run cities. Statistically these ares are going to have higher concentrations of black people.
-Black families for decades have not emphasized the 2-parent household as opposed to white/asian/hispanice counterparts. I'm sure you'll cry racism but it's simply a fact. Look at the percentage of black children over the last 50 years that grow up with only 1 parent (or none) as opposed to whites or asians. This is simply statistics. Less fatherly oversight during childhood = highe propensity to run afoul of societal norms
-Black culture places FAR more glamor on the thug lifestyle compared to other demographics. Not even debatable.


Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
50645 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 3:32 pm to
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You are blaming a dozen different things instead of the actual individual themself.

You can blame an individual for the crime they commit, I’m looking at the overall issue and seeing the root causes.
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it not the hospital's fault because they're expensive. It's not Xbox's fault for providng a platform for FPS games and it's not Academy's fault for carrying firearms. It's that person's fault.

You’re trying to take a nuanced and complex issue into something simple. America has a unique issue that others don’t have so why does America have that issue and two major problems are the easy access to guns and healthcare
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liberal run cities with liberal DAs a

Red states have the highest violence per capita so trying to make this just a liberal issue is asinine

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they want to chop off their weiner or pretned to be a cat or a dragon this week.

Associating school shooting with trans kids shows that you just want to mix your own politics with the issues unless you can actually provide stats that show trans kids are more likely to commit violence
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Used ot be those people woudl be ostracized but now they're empowered.

Most school shooters were the ones that were bullied and ostracized so I’m not sure this would even be a sufficient argument based on your own logic

Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
50645 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 3:33 pm to
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The food pyramid was influenced by big sugar which paid for studies that demonized animal fats as unhealthy...which lead to the proliferation of seed oils which are a big driver for a load of issues including mental health disorders.

Not saying we don’t also have a issue with just straight up health
Posted by bigdawg7780
SC
Member since Oct 2013
2891 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 4:26 pm to
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Good on them


It was nice as a football coach both our officers went with us everywhere and since they were state certified they had state wide jurisdiction.
Posted by FinleyStreet
Member since Aug 2011
8000 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 4:31 pm to
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blaming this on a race is as dumb as blaming it on one gender


So I guess this is the part where I have to point out that one gender commits far more violent crimes than the other.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
14160 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 4:41 pm to
Yeah, that's what makes the Covenant School shooting different and has taken years to get her manifesto.

That one checked every hate crime box but do not believe hate crime was even allowed to be associated with the case by Nashvilles lefty government.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
16977 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 5:08 pm to
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Red states have the highest violence per capita so trying to make this just a liberal issue is asinine


I guarantee you that if you look at the urban centers for each of these states the majority of violent crimes occur there and they are all governed by Dem mayors and DA’s. These same Dem mayors and DAs also believe in no cash bail, defunding police, not prosecuting minor crimes and other ignorant policies that lead to increased crime rates and chaos.

Everyone knows this, you know this…so why try to deny it?
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
70658 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 5:20 pm to
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So I guess this is the part where I have to point out that one gender commits far more violent crimes than the other.


That's because yall aren't any good at it.
Posted by K9
wayx....BOBO IN '19 &lt-- oops
Member since Sep 2012
26844 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 6:10 pm to
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
70658 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 6:14 pm to
What gun was used? Initial reports said shotgun, which is hard to sneak into a school.

I have been mind-fricked by work all day yesterday and today and can't keep up.

Has it been officially said what kind of gun was used?
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
70658 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 6:16 pm to
Breaking911 quoting CNN is clickbait. One shithouse using another shithouse as a source, worthless to me.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
14160 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 6:17 pm to
Beyond stupid if true and even if he did, keep it locked up.
Posted by K9
wayx....BOBO IN '19 &lt-- oops
Member since Sep 2012
26844 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 6:50 pm to
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
14160 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 7:03 pm to
Officer who cleared them prior should face criminal prosecution as well for malfeasance that lead to the same charges as the father.

Same difference as the dad, LE could have stopped this.
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
24444 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 7:29 pm to
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Initial reports said shotgun, which is hard to sneak into a school.


It was an AR-15 style. That was reported very early and is in the video of kids being evacuated from the classroom across from where he surrendered. The gun is in 2 pieces on the floor of that video
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
24444 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 7:34 pm to
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The dad is fricking idiot apparently


1000%. This is a circumstance where I agree with the charges (I actually didn’t agree with the Michigan parents being charged). fricking moron dad give his son an AR-15 6 months after the FBI questioned them about his son threatening to shoot up a school with pictures of the dad’s guns. frick him
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