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re: QB Stats for those that have beaten Bama
Posted on 12/21/21 at 1:08 pm to Bradb5291
Posted on 12/21/21 at 1:08 pm to Bradb5291
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Kirby has faced Saban 4 times and he’s only managed to score 21 points after halftime.
How many teams are scoring 21 against Bama in a half?
Also, we had 28 against Bama in the SECCG in 2018 3 mins into the 3rd quarter, and were rolling until Rodrigo missed a short FG.
I’m fine saying our offense needs to be better. They do. JT gives us the best chance to get there IMO. I just don’t understand why we’re using false or made up narratives to get us there.
Our defense was one of the best in history. We gave up 5(!!!!!) straight TD drives to Bama. With our talent on D, that’s absurd.
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Posted on 12/21/21 at 1:13 pm to Dawgsontop34
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At halftime of the Auburn game our RBs had 11 rushes for under 30 yards.
They ended up with 34 for 157 yards.
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didn’t include Mississippi State because they were a bad team
They ended up with 18 for 33.
Not even in the same universe.
Posted on 12/21/21 at 1:24 pm to Dawgsontop34
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Our defense was one of the best in history. We gave up 5(!!!!!) straight TD drives to Bama.
This led to 31 points. Score was 31-17. What happens next?
Stetson int
Bama punt
Stetson Failed 3rd and 4th down throws
Bama punt
Stetson pick 6
Bama punt
Uga punt
Posted on 12/21/21 at 1:53 pm to djsdawg
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Not even in the same universe
Do you think it’s entirely possible, we have less of a running threat because the defense has zero concern for JT scrambling? And moreso what I was trying to say is Bennett has gotten an offense going, but yes, JT definitely played great against Miss St last year.
Again, I want JT to start. I think he has more upside, and is a better player. I just think it’s not as obvious as whether to get a vaccine or not (note: this is only a joke for you, no one else on the board get mad at me for it
) This post was edited on 12/21/21 at 1:57 pm
Posted on 12/21/21 at 2:14 pm to Dawgsontop34
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Do you think it’s entirely possible, we have less of a running threat because the defense has zero concern for JT scrambling?
No, stopping a qb scramble, which is an advantage Bennett has over JTD, is not as high up on the opponents priority list as stopping a downfield passer or a running back.
Posted on 12/21/21 at 2:31 pm to djsdawg
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No, stopping a qb scramble, which is an advantage Bennett has over JTD, is not as high up on the opponents priority list as stopping a downfield passer or a running back.
There’s more to the running game that Stet impacts than just him actually running the ball.
Posted on 12/21/21 at 2:41 pm to Dawgsontop34
Not enough for it matter. I think you are greatly exaggerating the impact of his ability to scramble on our running backs.
Posted on 12/21/21 at 2:46 pm to djsdawg
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Not enough for it matter. I think you are greatly exaggerating the impact of his ability to scramble on our running backs.
It’s not just that. It’s LBs having to hold for just a split second longer on QB reads. I’ve said this for ages though so it’s not a new take for me.
When the QB is a complete statue (Fromm, JT) the defense has zero thought about the QB running. They’re always locked in on the RB.
Again, I want JT to start. I think he’s better. I just feel like we shite on Stetson too much when he had a really good year outside of 2 games. Yes, one of those games was important, but it’s not like he was horrendous (outside of 2 really bad throws). And I’ll criticize Stet when it’s warranted. He was AWFUL against Florida outside of 1 throw.
Our defense was the much bigger issue in that game.
This post was edited on 12/21/21 at 2:50 pm
Posted on 12/21/21 at 2:57 pm to Dawgsontop34
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that. It’s LBs having to hold for just a split second longer on QB reads.
I just don’t think opponents are worrying about a Stetson run as much as you think they are. It’s a distant third on the list at best.
I think a stronger argument can be made about an opponent worrying about a JTD pass downfield, which should open up the run game.
Posted on 12/21/21 at 5:25 pm to Dawgsontop34
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How many teams are scoring 21 abasing Bama in a half
That’s 21 total points in the second half during 4 games(8 quarters) Saban practically shuts us out in the 2nd half of every game…
Posted on 12/21/21 at 5:28 pm to Bradb5291
My bad.
Completely misread that. You’re absolutely right on that. 2nd half offense has been a train wreck against Bama in every outing so far.
Completely misread that. You’re absolutely right on that. 2nd half offense has been a train wreck against Bama in every outing so far.
Posted on 12/21/21 at 5:41 pm to djsdawg
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we have seen him prove more than Bennett as a passer.
When? I mean, the last 4 weeks were against increidbly weak opponents. Bennett can torch incredibly weak opponents and has done exactly that.
Don't get me wrong. I want Daniels to be better. If he is I WANT him to start. I want the best QB in there. But honestly? We haven't seen Daniels do more than Bennett.
The defenses that Daniels played against were pretty bad, at best. He has played against one good defense Clemson.
Posted on 12/21/21 at 6:16 pm to DawgsLife
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When
Miss state when we had zero run game and were tied in the 4th.
Cincinnati when we faced an elite D and were down 11 in the 4th.
Clemson when we faced an elite D and he didn’t crumble with a terrible pick 6.
This post was edited on 12/21/21 at 6:19 pm
Posted on 12/21/21 at 6:44 pm to djsdawg
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Miss state when we had zero run game and were tied in the 4th.
The team that went 3-7? They didn't go 3-7 because their offense was bad.
quote:Hard to say about them honestly since we were missing 12 people.
Cincinnati when we faced an elite D and were down 11 in the 4th.
quote:The game in which we won 10-6 and we scored on a pick 6?
Clemson when we faced an elite D and he didn’t crumble with a terrible pick 6.
You want to sue that game to show that he is an excellent QB?
Posted on 12/21/21 at 6:48 pm to djsdawg
You want to prove that Daniels has shown he is an excellent QB based on wins against:
SCarolina 2-8
MState 3-7
Missouri 5-5
and an undefeated G5 team?
I mean, I can give you some better performances that Bennett has had against better teams, if you would like. Would that prove he is better than Daniels?
ETA
I might add that in the SCarolina game Daniels was 10/16 139 yards 2 TD and 1 INT.
SCarolina 2-8
MState 3-7
Missouri 5-5
and an undefeated G5 team?
I mean, I can give you some better performances that Bennett has had against better teams, if you would like. Would that prove he is better than Daniels?
ETA
I might add that in the SCarolina game Daniels was 10/16 139 yards 2 TD and 1 INT.
This post was edited on 12/21/21 at 6:50 pm
Posted on 12/21/21 at 7:08 pm to djsdawg
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Clemson when we faced an elite D and he didn’t crumble with a terrible pick 6.
Bruh… there are arguments to make for JT. The Clemson game is not one of them. He did have zero receiving help, was injured, and getting used to new people around him (including a new RG 2 plays into the season). But the defense deserves credit for that game, and then the running game closed it out.
Posted on 12/21/21 at 8:35 pm to Dawgsontop34
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Bruh… there are arguments to make for JT. The Clemson game is not one of them.
After that killer pick 6 vs bama, Clemson becomes one of them. Props to JTD for not throwing a killer pick 6.
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