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Posted on 10/11/15 at 11:40 pm to
Posted by FaCubeItches
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Posted on 10/11/15 at 11:40 pm to
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Richt has beaten UF 5 times, donnan did once.


Richt lost to Florida far more often than Donnan did. In both cases, it's because he had 3 times as many chances.
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 10/12/15 at 12:30 am to
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Richt lost to Florida far more often than Donnan did. In both cases, it's because he had 3 times as many chances.


Richt started 1-4 vs UF...........just like Donnan......and we know UF was much better in the Donnan time period.
Posted by Kimsey
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Posted on 10/12/15 at 12:31 am to
Donnan went up against the likes of Fulmer, Spurrier, and O'leary every year.

While a down East division the past few seasons, Richt went up against Paul Johnson, Butch Jones, and Muschamp.

Richt has done better with Donnan's players than his own for the most part.
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 10/12/15 at 7:24 am to
So what idiots? vandy was amazing under James Franklin and richt had to face mizzou instead of ole miss!

- wg
Posted by DawgsLife
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Posted on 10/12/15 at 7:47 am to
Are you forgetting Richt has gone up against Saban, Miles, Urban Meyer, Spurrier and Malzahn? Those coaches trump any of the ones you mentioned.
Posted by germandawg
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Posted on 10/12/15 at 7:52 am to
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Richt started 1-4 vs UF...........just like Donnan......and we know UF was much better in the Donnan time period.


The only way that Richt was an upgrade over Donnan is that the program was headed toward 1980's Miami in off the field shite. As far as wins and losses and talent we are almost identical. Donnan was going to get the program into a heaping pile of shite and the NCAA at the time would have loved to have slapped the shite out of an SEC team but couldnt do so to Alabama, Tennessee or Florida because of their national prominence...but UGA, being the 3rd to 5th best team in the conference every year would have been a prime target to make an example of....
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 10/12/15 at 7:57 am to
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Are you forgetting Richt has gone up against Saban, Miles, Urban Meyer, Spurrier and Malzahn? Those coaches trump any of the ones you mentioned.


Malzahn? You just destroyed your whole point with that name drop.
This post was edited on 10/12/15 at 7:57 am
Posted by DawgsLife
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Posted on 10/12/15 at 7:57 am to
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As far as wins and losses and talent we are almost identical.


I find it hard to believe that nobody seems to be able to understand that the SEC is at another level. We won 7 straight National Championships by 4 different teams.
It's obvious the conference is head and shoulders better now than it was then. That alone makes it more difficult to win the same number of games.
Posted by DawgsLife
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Posted on 10/12/15 at 8:00 am to
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Malzahn? You just destroyed your whole point with that name drop.



He has gone to the National Championship game...something you guys criticize that Mark Richt has not done. If that is the standard, then you made it the standard, not me.
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 10/12/15 at 8:05 am to
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As far as wins and losses and talent we are almost identical.


I find it hard to believe that nobody seems to be able to understand that the SEC is at another level. We won 7 straight National Championships by 4 different teams.
It's obvious the conference is head and shoulders better now than it was then. That alone makes it more difficult to win the same number of games.


You say "we" as if Uga played an integral role in the streak.

You would have a good point if the national champ was on our regular season schedule all 7 years, but they weren't, and even if they were, that's one game out of 8 annual games. Richt faced only 1 in the past 5, while Donnan faced 2 in his 5.
This post was edited on 10/12/15 at 8:10 am
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 10/12/15 at 8:08 am to
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Malzahn? You just destroyed your whole point with that name drop.


He has gone to the National Championship game...something you guys criticize that Mark Richt has not done. If that is the standard, then you made it the standard, not me.


It was as flukey and lucky as it gets, thus it's not a legit part of The standard.
Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 10/12/15 at 8:09 am to
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I find it hard to believe that nobody seems to be able to understand that the SEC is at another level. We won 7 straight National Championships by 4 different teams.
It's obvious the conference is head and shoulders better now than it was then. That alone makes it more difficult to win the same number of games.


The SEC east was WAYYY tougher on average when Donnan and Goff were coaching at UGA than it has been since Richt has been. There is no excuse for us not to be representing the SEC east this year for the 4th year in a row....except of course winning is about #5 on the programs list of prioritities....
Posted by DawgsLife
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Posted on 10/12/15 at 8:14 am to
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You say "we" as if Uga played an integral role in the streak.


I say "we" because "we" are a part of the SEC, and the SEC won 7 straight.

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You would have a good point if the national champ was on our regular season schedule all 7 years, but they weren't, and even if they were, that's one game out of 8 annual games. Richt faced only 1 in the past 5, while Donnan faced 2 in his 5.


That is a legitimate point. However, I am simply pointing out that the entire SEC is MUCH tougher than it was when Donnan was at Georgia. Iron sharpens iron. When you have that many different teams winning big it reflects the entire conference. And, we played Florida, Auburn and Alabama in years they won the National Championship. How many National Champions did Donnan face?
Posted by DawgsLife
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Posted on 10/12/15 at 8:17 am to
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It was as flukey and lucky as it gets, thus it's not a legit part of The standard.


So a National Championship does not count if it is, in your opinion, flukey? Would you say Ohio State's was flukey last year? I mean they lost to Virginia Tech and played an extremely weak schedule. How many other National Championships should we take away from schools because they were flukey?
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 10/12/15 at 8:21 am to
Sorry, but I ain't gonna claim anything our hated rivals accomplished that we couldn't do ourselves. It may reflect on our conference but it doesn't reflect on our schedule difficulty. You only get credit for the teams on the schedule.

Remember when bama was pulled off of our 2012 reg schedule? Boy did we luck out with that.

Reg season foes that became national champs from 96-14 were:
96, 98, 03, 06, 08, 10.
This post was edited on 10/12/15 at 8:27 am
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 10/12/15 at 8:26 am to
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Only in Georgia do we... by DawgsLife
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It was as flukey and lucky as it gets, thus it's not a legit part of The standard.


So a National Championship does not count if it is, in your opinion, flukey? Would you say Ohio State's was flukey last year? I mean they lost to Virginia Tech and played an extremely weak schedule. How many other National Championships should we take away from schools because they were flukey?




I am not takin a mnc away from AU because they didn't win it in 2013. What AU did in 2013 doesn't prove a coaches quality and it was a one time deal.

What Ohio st did in 2014 does prove it as they legit beat Michigan st, bama, and Oregon with their backuo qbs. Besides. urban proved himself many times in the past. Flukes don't do that.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 10/12/15 at 8:27 am to
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You only ge credit for the teams on he schedule.


Again...we played three National Champions. How many did Donnan face?

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Remember when bama was pulled off of our 2012 schedule? Boy did we luck out with that.


Really? Did we play them in 2012? Didn't we almost beat them? Nobody can say how a regular season game would have come out.

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Reg season foes that became national champs from 96-14 were:
96, 98, 03, 06, 08, 10.



And Richt also played against another team that PLAYED for a National Championship and came close to winning it. (Auburn 2013) I would say that's a pretty tough schedule.

Donnan played against two and Richt played 4 with another one that almost won.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 10/12/15 at 8:29 am to
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I am not takin a mnc away from AU because they didn't win it in 2013. What AU did in 2013 doesn't prove a coaches quality and it was a one time deal.


Not really. They have a history of winning big then falling flat the next year. Particularly lately. And, if I recall, many on here said they would swap with Auburn's winning the NC and playing for one. (Maybe not you, but some on here)
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 10/12/15 at 8:30 am to
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urban proved himself many times in the past.


Urban quit when it got tough. If Harbaugh continues to build at Michigan, Urban will quit again.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 10/12/15 at 8:50 am to
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I am not takin a mnc away from AU because they didn't win it in 2013. What AU did in 2013 doesn't prove a coaches quality and it was a one time deal.


Not really. They have a history of winning big then falling flat the next year. Particularly lately. And, if I recall, many on here said they would swap with Auburn's winning the NC and playing for one. (Maybe not you, but some on here)


2010 wasn't lucky. 2013 was. Try to remember how their games ended vs Uga and bama, and the break they got with Ohio st losing their first game in ages. We weren't even good and it took a miracle + penn wagers to beat us.
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