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re: Let's get political!

Posted on 3/25/26 at 7:54 pm to
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 3/25/26 at 7:54 pm to
A month in and Trump is lifting oil sanctions on both Russia and Iran? And this is what winning looks like? Are you fricking kidding me

War is Peace
Escalation is De-escalation
Capitulation is Victory !

wtf, sons?

This is bad.
Posted by Wwarmouth
Member since Dec 2025
1848 posts
Posted on 3/25/26 at 7:55 pm to
And Ukraine is bombing Russian oil infrastructure

Which is dumb as frick if you are wanting to make up for the ME disruption.

Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
34919 posts
Posted on 3/25/26 at 7:56 pm to
The Fart of the Squeal in full effect

We got sold a vacuum cleaner, sons

Trump really is the basket case fool you always thought he was somewhere in the back of your mind
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
16989 posts
Posted on 3/25/26 at 7:58 pm to
Ukraine is a money laundering business perpetrated by the EU and England. Zero reason people should be dying there.

Putin is ultimately going to nuke them at this rate. The part where they have been fighting was ethnically Russian anyway.
Posted by FaCubeItches
Soviet Monica, People's Republic CA
Member since Sep 2012
6492 posts
Posted on 3/25/26 at 8:51 pm to
quote:

Ukraine is a money laundering business perpetrated by the EU and England. Zero reason people should be dying there.


The hatred between Russians and Ukrainians runs deep, as the Russians have tried to wipe the Ukrainians out on multiple occasions. For example, the Russians slaughtered millions of Ukrainians during the 30s and then again after WW2. To give just a little idea of how strong the feelings still were/are even decades later: I was part of a student exchange with the USSR back in the '80s. As one part of the program, they took us to Kiev, and while there, they took us to what was at the time known as the monument to Russian-Ukrainian Friendship. Our Intourist guide - a Soviet government employee - explained that he was the only Ukrainian there at that time, and that he was only there because he had to take us, and the only way any Ukrainian would ever go there would be to piss on it.

It's a level of hatred that is really only matched between everyone in the Balkans and everyone else in the Balkans.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
16989 posts
Posted on 3/25/26 at 9:22 pm to
Russians slaughtered millions of Russians.... Stalin was far worse than Hitler but it was all behind the iron curtain.

Europe sucks and the rivalries there far predate the USs existence. Best to stay out of European conflicts when possible, they like to spend our money and get our young people killed for them....
This post was edited on 3/26/26 at 8:26 am
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
62713 posts
Posted on 3/26/26 at 6:15 am to
I see lightening the mood is not in your wheelhouse?
Posted by Wwarmouth
Member since Dec 2025
1848 posts
Posted on 3/26/26 at 10:12 am to
Posted by Wwarmouth
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Posted on 3/26/26 at 10:16 am to
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
16989 posts
Posted on 3/26/26 at 10:35 am to
They stand no chance.... First , Uniformed soldier surrender almost immediately when faced with Ah64 gunships and A-10s.....





Posted by Wwarmouth
Member since Dec 2025
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Posted on 3/27/26 at 7:37 am to
Posted by Wwarmouth
Member since Dec 2025
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Posted on 3/27/26 at 9:10 am to
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So instead of "completely destroying" their missile capability, we have only got 1/3.
Posted by Wwarmouth
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Posted on 3/27/26 at 9:12 am to
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This has been totally worth depleting our stockpiles. What a gift from Trump. Thank you Mr. President.
Posted by Wwarmouth
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Posted on 3/27/26 at 9:36 am to
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This should produce some interesting emails
Posted by ParkRanger
The Rockies
Member since Dec 2025
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Posted on 3/27/26 at 3:02 pm to
Let the games begin
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
16989 posts
Posted on 3/27/26 at 3:29 pm to
The stock needs to be rotated.... FIFO, Russia has used up its older munitions, we needs to do the same.

We are also shooting down drones with $1 bullets....
Posted by FaCubeItches
Soviet Monica, People's Republic CA
Member since Sep 2012
6492 posts
Posted on 3/27/26 at 4:55 pm to
"Oh my God, we're running out of Tomahawks!!!!" has been a refrain since the Clinton presidency. Every administration since Bush I has been a fan of using Tomahawks, but it wasn't until very recently that anyone bothered to authorize increased production of them. The goal had previously always been to maintain the minimum amount necessary. At least that is finally been addressed, and increased production has been authorized.

Combat is munitions intensive, yet *nobody* ever seems to give it much thought. Hell, you can go all the way back to the "shell crisis" in WWI, the US Navy's torpedo shortage in WW2, etc. The same thing happened again in Ukraine, as both Russia and Ukraine found themselves periodically running low on munitions, though Ukraine had more limited stocks to begin with. Even NATO couldn't supply them with much, because their own stocks were so low. Everyone has now increased shell production since.
Posted by Wwarmouth
Member since Dec 2025
1848 posts
Posted on 3/27/26 at 6:59 pm to
Your worldview is interesting.

Posted by FaCubeItches
Soviet Monica, People's Republic CA
Member since Sep 2012
6492 posts
Posted on 3/27/26 at 7:34 pm to
Noticing that politicians of all stripes tend to play kick the can with an issue and never really do anything about it until very late in the game? Noting that a long-term issue that is finally being remedied is not exactly an unexpected event? I had to write position papers on this stuff nearly 30 years ago when I worked in DC.

Trump has been more than happy to use Tomahawks, just like his predecessors, but unlike them, he has - belatedly - at least done something to increase production. He's not exactly alone in that, either; other NATO/allied countries have also woken up to the fact that they need to substantially boost their munitions supplies in order to be ready for any current/pending conflict.

If nothing else, Ukraine showed Western militaries that the can could not be kicked much further.
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