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re: Let's decide Upvote for JT Downvote for Stetson
Posted on 12/21/21 at 8:30 pm to AlaCowboy
Posted on 12/21/21 at 8:30 pm to AlaCowboy
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think he sat on the bench and watched their kicker kick a game-winning FG. So, did Calzada beat Bama?
He made plays of 11,12, and 17 yards to put their kicker in FG range. Kind of like JTD vs Cincy.
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Posted on 12/21/21 at 8:45 pm to djsdawg
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So Bennett can beat Alabama? I
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And Kirby is what now? You've already admitted that a lesser QB can beat Alabama.
quote:Do you believe that a Hail Mary pass is the only way a QB can get lucky? Or do you honestly believe that Calzada is a great QB? Or even a good QB? Because if you do, then history says that Bennett is a great QB. Even great QBs can struggle at inopportune times. Peyton Manning struggled mightily in the playoff for years. Using your logic he was a bad QB and could have never won the Super Bowl.
So Calzada got lucky in one game
Did he throw a Hail Mary TD?
Posted on 12/21/21 at 8:51 pm to djsdawg
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He made plays of 11,12, and 17 yards to put their kicker in FG range. Kind of like JTD vs Cincy.
Last three years 3 QBs have beaten Alabama. Can you name them?
Calzada
Bo Nix
Joe Burrow
Apparently Calzada and Bo Nix are the greatest QBs in college football since they beat Alabama.
Posted on 12/21/21 at 8:56 pm to DawgsLife
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One game? So Calzada got lucky in one game and he is suddenly better than Bennett, when is al other games Bennett is better in every meaningful category?
Who cares? It was the most important game of the season for both and one stepped and one didn't.
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Again. Everybody keeps wanting to say Benentt has not done it yeat so he should be replaced. Using that logic, shouldn't Kirby Smart be replaced?
Are you really comparing replacing
a HC to replacing a starting QB? You really think it's the same thing?
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We have a much bigger sample size with him than we do with Stetson Bennett.
He's won a SECC and beat multiple top 20 teams...something Stet has failed to do once.
Once again,Stat is a 5th year QB and he made a Freshman mistake in the most important game of the year(almost two of em) Bama fooled
him into taking a hot read and their safety was squatting on em.He HAS to see that safety or at the minimum,look him off.
This post was edited on 12/21/21 at 9:04 pm
Posted on 12/21/21 at 8:57 pm to DawgsLife
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Do you believe that a Hail Mary pass is the only way a QB can get lucky?
It’s an example of a lucky play. Got any others that happened for him? Or was it not about luck as you tried to make it?
Posted on 12/21/21 at 9:09 pm to djsdawg
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It’s an example of a lucky play.
Of one kind. Yes.
quote:So, you do think Calzada is a good QB? Whatever. Alabama had the better team and, imo, the better QB. Yet, the lesser QB and lesser team managed to beat Alabama.
Got any others that happened for him? Or was it not about luck as you tried to make it?
So, can Bennett beat Alabama, or no?
Posted on 12/21/21 at 9:40 pm to DawgsLife
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So, you do think Calzada is a good QB? Whatever. Alabama had the better team and, imo, the better QB. Yet, the lesser QB and lesser team managed to beat Alabama.
So zero examples of luck?
He was easily the best qb on the field when he led his team to victory over young and bama. I don’t think Bennett is capable of doing as well in that kind of game. We only have one qb who has done so.
This post was edited on 12/21/21 at 9:42 pm
Posted on 12/21/21 at 9:50 pm to djsdawg
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We only have one qb who has done so.
Who?
Posted on 12/22/21 at 8:24 am to djsdawg
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So zero examples of luck?
You seem hesitant to admit that a lesser QB can beat Alabama. So, if it wasn't luck how did Calzada beat Alabama? was it his being a superior QB to Stetson Bennett?
Some things we know:
Georgia is a better team than Texas A&M
Bennett put up better numbers than Calzada during the season
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He was easily the best qb on the field when he led his team to victory over young and bama.
So, you admit, then that a lesser QB can beat Alabama...or are you saying that Calzada is a better QB than Bryce Young?
I am confused because here is what you said:
Kirby hasn’t had a good enough qb to beat bama. Perhaps he needs to make better choices at that spot.
Are you talking about on the particular day they played or are you saying our QBs are not good enough to ever beat Alabama? Because Bennett is a better QB than Calzada, and yet Calzada beat Alabama.
Look. Here is my point. Bennett is good enough to beat Alabama. I mean, Bo Nix and Calzada beat them.
Whether people on this board realize it or just don't want to admit it....football is a team game.
An average (or even below average) QB can beat an excellent team. You also can't typically point to one or tow plays and say definitely that that play cost the game. There are typically numerous plays that, had they gone differently could have won or lost a game.
So it boils down to this. Can a QB with the abilities of Stetson Bennett beat Alabama?
Posted on 12/22/21 at 9:33 am to DawgsLife
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So it boils down to this. Can a QB with the abilities of Stetson Bennett beat Alabama?
The bigger question that really needs investigating is why did JD99 quit on plays?
Posted on 12/22/21 at 11:19 am to Spaceman Spiff
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The bigger question that really needs investigating is why did JD99 quit on plays?
That's an easy one. he has had conditioning problems since he has been at Georgia due to his size. His size is a double edged sword. It allows him to plug holes and overpower other people, but conditioning takes a hit. I mean he's something like 365LBS, I think?
Alabama didn't allow him a chance to get off the field
I THINK (My opinion) that the way we rotate players is also both a gift and a curse. We keep our players fresher deep into games, but if teams run more of a hurry up and don't substitute, then we can't substitute either. The other teams are used to being out on the field more and we are not, so instead of them being worn down it's us that is worn down.
When I team does this, it is more important to establish the run game and slow it down, so your defense can get a breather. We didn't really establish the run and we got gassed.
Again. Just my opinion.
Posted on 12/22/21 at 11:24 am to djsdawg
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He was easily the best qb on the field when he led his team to victory over young and bama.
So Calzada went:
21/31 285 yds. 3TD and 1 INT
Young went:
28-48 369 yds 3TD 1 INT
but Calzada was "easily" the best QB on the field?
Posted on 12/22/21 at 11:28 am to DawgsLife
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That's an easy one. he has had conditioning problems since he has been at Georgia due to his size. His size is a double edged sword. It allows him to plug holes and overpower other people, but conditioning takes a hit. I mean he's something like 365LBS, I think?
Alabama didn't allow him a chance to get off the field
Funny that other teams did the same thing against us and he did just fine. Go back and watch him push maybe a yard or two and just quit. And that was early in the first half.
This post was edited on 12/22/21 at 11:30 am
Posted on 12/22/21 at 11:33 am to RD Dawg
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Who cares? It was the most important game of the season for both and one stepped and one didn't.
Which means what? He's can never "step"? or he isn't good? I mean Peyton manning struggled for years in the biggest games he played in but I doubt many would argue he could never win.
quote:No, not at all. A HC makes a whole lot bigger decisions. I mean fake punts, etc.
Are you really comparing replacing
a HC to replacing a starting QB? You really think it's the same thing?
quote:Fromm, however did and many (not sure if you were one of them) criticized him constantly. Seems odd. Are you saying that Stetson Bennett has not beaten multiple top 20 teams, because I'm pretty sure he has. And Kirby has had 6 years to win one SECC. Are
He's won a SECC and beat multiple top 20 teams...something Stet has failed to do once.
you willing to give Stetston Bennett that long?
Yes, I understand my argument is stupid. But you guys keep giving some passes while ripping apart others with extremely similar results.
quote:Lots of QBs get fooled by coverages....not just freshmen. I mean what might have changed if Nolan Smith had fallen on that fumble instead of trying to pick it up?
Once again,Stat is a 5th year QB and he made a Freshman mistake in the most important game of the year(almost two of em) Bama fooled
him into taking a hot read and their safety was squatting on em.He HAS to see that safety or at the minimum,look him off.
Posted on 12/22/21 at 11:34 am to Spaceman Spiff
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Funny that other teams did the same thing against us and he did just fine. Go back and watch him push maybe a yard or two and just quit. And that was early in the first half.
Do you have a theory?
Posted on 12/22/21 at 12:19 pm to DawgsLife
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So Calzada went:
21/31 285 yds. 3TD and 1 INT
Young went:
28-48 369 yds 3TD 1 INT
but Calzada was "easily" the best QB on the field?
Passer rating was 170 vs 139.
It’s not particularly close, is it?
Posted on 12/22/21 at 12:33 pm to DawgsLife
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Do you have a theory?
Nope. I just said go back and watch him give up.
Posted on 12/22/21 at 1:38 pm to djsdawg
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Passer rating was 170 vs 139.
It’s not particularly close, is it?
Well, considering you don't win games with passer rating. I mean Young had more yards and the same TD's.
They both had 1 INT. That's pretty darn close.
Posted on 12/22/21 at 1:43 pm to Spaceman Spiff
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Nope. I just said go back and watch him give up.
I'm not arguing with you. You asked and I thought you might have a theory.
Honestly Jordan Davis is the least of our worries, imo.
He is pretty much in there to stop the run. He will be a factor against Michigan....not so much Alabama.
Posted on 12/22/21 at 1:57 pm to DawgsLife
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Well, considering you don't win games with passer rating. I mean Young had more yards and the same TD's.
They both had 1 INT. That's pretty darn close.
Do you not understand passer efficiency ratings?
His completion % was lower than calzada.
His yards per attempt was lower than calzada.
His td % was lower than calzada.
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